I was looking for some pictures of some Legends with the vinyl graphics on the sides of the chassis and some pictures of the Bolink Bombers, I'm thinking this is were all of it was. Am I right or am I thinking of another site?

been gone for quite some time.

we race ledgens at walts hobby ,no fancy panted bodies,on carpet

I'd been looking for that Web site, too, with not much luck. Keeps coming up "Page not found". :(

http://www.rjspeed.com/ they make the legends now

I know that RJSpeed makes the Legends (Rick Jordan), and they sell 'em on their Web site, but the RCLegends.com Web site was a racing series/track Web site that had some cool "Bomber/Street Stock" type cars on it.

RC Legends shut down when the webmaster and the head of Blacksheep Vinyl (same guy) had to move to another state. I asked him to let me know if he got things up and running but haven't heard from him since.

i need 2 find speed

I have a question for anyone racing legends are the spec motors and batteries still available . I have been looking on Trinitys web site and they don't even show the 21 T Spec motor anymore ,they show the batteries and and brushes for the motor . Any info would be great because a new track is opening up and this is one of the classes they was wanting to bring back but if stuff isn't going to be available anymore we need to know.

Thanks
Phantom:wave:

I have a question for anyone racing legends are the spec motors and batteries still available . I have been looking on Trinitys web site and they don't even show the 21 T Spec motor anymore ,they show the batteries and and brushes for the motor . Any info would be great because a new track is opening up and this is one of the classes they was wanting to bring back but if stuff isn't going to be available anymore we need to know.

Thanks
Phantom:wave:

I know the hobbytown and the local track in Indy both sell the spec motor. I saw 1 spec battery pack at hobbytown last time I stopped by.

I have a question for anyone racing legends are the spec motors and batteries still available . I have been looking on Trinitys web site and they don't even show the 21 T Spec motor anymore ,they show the batteries and and brushes for the motor . Any info would be great because a new track is opening up and this is one of the classes they was wanting to bring back but if stuff isn't going to be available anymore we need to know.

Thanks
Phantom:wave:

Phantom,I realey think us Spec guys are in trouble.Here in Southern New England where im from its just about history.Even north of here in Maine there is some activity but not much.Too bad.:confused:

Phantom

You're probably better off choosing spec equipment that's readily available at various local hobby shops and online retailers.

I've heard some places are racing 1s Lipo batteries and brushless motors. Other places are running handout 27 turn motors and NiCads.

Used NiMH can be bought really cheap these days as well. So it's up to you guys to choose your Spec.

We had a spec class going for pan cars and turned it into a breakout class for pan car chassis only, becasue of availability issues. We do have a legend class also and I have two kids it in it, the Trinity web site shows the motor is available but the 4 cell battery is out of stock and has been for a long time, I would say its been discontinued. I think a good alteranative would be the 4 cell spec battery that Windtunnel sells, it is a 3000 mah but they are unmatched and sealed.

Dizzy
I spoke to Rob at Windtunnel and he said there was no call for those batteries and they discontinued them also!!!!!!!!.I have used them and they are great!!!!!!!!!.

Phantom

You're probably better off choosing spec equipment that's readily available at various local hobby shops and online retailers.

I've heard some places are racing 1s Lipo batteries and brushless motors. Other places are running handout 27 turn motors and NiCads.

Used NiMH can be bought really cheap these days as well. So it's up to you guys to choose your Spec.


I like the idea of converting to lipo for the legend class. The brushless setup, while probably would keep the playing field level, also increases the cost. We're pretty fortunate in Indy that the Legend class is fairly strong even though it isn't technically "spec". Batteries are capped at 4600 NIMH due to the lack of spec packs but the cars seem to be pretty evenly matched. I bought a legend and plan on running it in the next few weeks so I hope it sticks around.

Well that sucks, Trannie Man.

Could just run a 4 cell battery then that is a round cell, maybe limit the capacity, they are still readily available. I would really hate to see brushless and lipo in spec classes, it will drive up the cost and is that not why these classes are around, becasue they are cheap to run.

Well that sucks, Trannie Man.

Could just run a 4 cell battery then that is a round cell, maybe limit the capacity, they are still readily available. I would really hate to see brushless and lipo in spec classes, it will drive up the cost and is that not why these classes are around, becasue they are cheap to run.

I agree with the argument against brushless but lipo might actually be a cheaper option. 1 battery versus a box full of round cells makes it nicer on the wallet. The only thing would be the cost of a charger. I run lipo in another class and the lack of maintenance plus the lack of inventory makes it much nicer in my book.

Well maybe we have to ask the powers that be for alternative spec equipment and set new guidelines for spec racing of this nature . I bet Bolink and RJspeed would appreciate the effort and who knows with some changes maybe spec will return with a vengeance.

Not to start an argument about the cost of racing, however...

Novak is going to release a 2s Havoc/25.5 motor combo for $130. It's geared more towards the Vintage Trans Am guys but it might be a good option for other spec classes.

Add a Zippy Flightmax 4000mah battery at $35 shipped to your door and a Thunder AC6 charger at $55 bucks or so and you are good to go for a very long time.

I've seen all three products in action; the ESC, battery and charger and they are all great products.

Well this is a start guys lets keep it going keep on looking .

Not to start an argument about the cost of racing, however...

Novak is going to release a 2s Havoc/25.5 motor combo for $130. It's geared more towards the Vintage Trans Am guys but it might be a good option for other spec classes.

Add a Zippy Flightmax 4000mah battery at $35 shipped to your door and a Thunder AC6 charger at $55 bucks or so and you are good to go for a very long time.

I've seen all three products in action; the ESC, battery and charger and they are all great products.

Hobby King sells that Battery for $24.95

pejota;

That price is alot better then what they have been charging for brushless systems, is that retail or on the street cost? I think if it gets to around $100 it may fly, at least its competitive to buying a speed control and motor currently, remember we have to figure in the cost for a begineer to get invovled in this hobby.

I think the trick is to let the brushed motors and the brushless motors live together, that way there is no big investment and people with the current motors do not have to run out and buy new until they want too or until the motors are gone.

Spec classes are a great place for round cells and lipos to live together. The 1 cell lipo is about 4 cell size for voltage so let them run together. People that have round cells and the chargers for them can continue, the lipo people can run and the new people can go either way.

Its the best of both worlds, I hate to see people ruled out of the hobby.

I believe the prices i quoted to be street prices. And the battery i quoted is the SHIPPED price from Hong Kong.

If you go to www.hobbypartz.com you can find the charger and what looks to be an interesting brushless Combo.

Search the EZRun brushless systems... interesting prices but they are sensorless and the combos are big motors-- 8.5 or so. I just found a 17.5 motor on there but i think they also offer smaller, 18th scale stuff. Maybe that'd work in a Legends, i don't know.

If you wanna allow brushed/brushless/round cell/lipo together you'll have to test to get some comparable gear ratios.

Well,all I got to say is Im glad we have some guys with a possitive out look on this situation!!!!!!!!.A lot of these hardcore pan car guys dont give a Rats A$$ if the spec class survives or not.I guess they like to buy all the newest Hi Tech stuff that comes out every other week nowadays.I 'v been in this hobby + or - 25 years and im realey sick of havinn to buy new stuff just to race every 1/4 of the year.I have another hobby I can spend real big bucks in and it dont change hardware like this RC stuff does. There for what its worth,i feel better now. T.C.M.

we have been running legend at rosewood for 2 years now and we have a good group of racers. we had 15 legends last night. we are running 20/81 gear w/ spec motor,any brush/spring and 4 cell up to 4600. we tried to incorporate 1s lipo 4000 25c smc packs only as an option this year and let them run 35/81 gear to make up for voltage and let them run 6oz lighter, but they still would not keep up over the whole run.

i think for the lipo to work, we are going to have to go brushless eventually. someone brought up at the drivers meeting yesterday that you can get the havoc 1s at tower now for $129. thats not too bad. i do agree, that for a transition to work, we need to figure gearing for 17.5 or 21.5 single cell that runs comparable to brushed 4cell so they can run together, until everyone switches.

Hey guys lets make sure our current equipment is still going to be available . I have heard there has been some changes at Trinity not sure on what they are but lets find out Monday if they will be discontinuing the motors or the batteries and go from there why end a good thing if it doesn't need to be .:thumbsup:

Phantom,keep us informed if you dont mind!!!.Im kinda pessimistic,but I'v been wrong before,more than Id like to admit LOL.:confused::thumbsup::wave:

In our legends class we run 17.5 brushless with the old 21 turn spec
motor. They both still run the spec battery, and are very close.
Rick

Rick,
Up in Maine they run Spec Sk class with the 17.5 bl motor with the one cell Lipo with the 21t spec motor and Trinitys 1600 nicad spec pack.They are very equal in lap times to 1/10 or two.The only advantage the Brushless cars have is there two ounces lighter than the 4 cell cars because of the voltage in the nicads.

We're getting ready to try a brushless legends class at the grove. Which motor exactly is still to be determined as once the weather breaks, but looking like either 17.5 or 21.5 with a single cell LiPo.

Should be pretty close to the old 21T/4-cell speeds.

If I am correct, Rick at RJ Speed bought out RC Legends.
Rick has been the brains behind the R/C Legend cars since the beginning.
I would be interested to hear how that lipo test works out.
Pro Hobbies Speedway just outside Orlando is cranking back up with the Legends every first and third Monday evenings.
www.ProHobbiesSpeedway.com

hea Phantom keep us up to date on that, maybe Trinity is going to update the battery or something and thats why they have not been available for so long.

It does sound like a few clubs have been successful with running brushless and brushed motors together, so that sounds encouraging, I thought the 17.5/1 cell was suppose to replicate the old 4 cell racing.

We used to run Legends at Xtreme/GMX track in New Milford Ct. I've been watching this thread,and glad to see some people still interested in the class.As timeless as the cars are,1s w/ a brushless motor will be the answer.I still have a few cars,and would love to be able to run them again sometime.We all had a blast running them.
Good luck fellas getting the Legends together!!

I'll bring up some concerns i've seen elsewhere...
Switching to 1s Lipo means you may need to use a voltage booster for the servo, receiver, etc. Some people claim you can get away without using it, but i think that drop off oval racer 2 is seeing at his track might be a result of racers not using the voltage booster.

Secondly, not everyone has a 1s Lipo, especially people looking to get into WGT, Oval or Legends who racing something else. They all have 2s Lipos. So there is another concern.

Last that i can think of, 4-cell/17.5 was an option in Vintage Trans Am that was supposed to be comparable to 4-cell/27 turn. It was a dog. That may not be the case in a direct drive car, but i'm just throwing that out there.

To be honest, i'm not really trying to start any arguments or downplay any options. Just playing Devil's Advocate and providing some food for thought.

Our own club, www.bearrc.com, is looking at the RJ Speed Sport 3.2 as a possible spec/newbie/optional class. We have yet to test the rules but we are looking at Tamiya Silver Cans (NO Red Dots), any Brushed ESC, 2s Lipo and a limited gear ratio. However, the new Havoc/25.5 looks tempting at $130. If it works out the way i'd like, we could just hand newbies a box with EVERYTHING they would need at a decent price (no profit for us) and tell them we'll see them next week. :wave:

We used to run Legends at Xtreme/GMX track in New Milford Ct. I've been watching this thread,and glad to see some people still interested in the class.As timeless as the cars are,1s w/ a brushless motor will be the answer.I still have a few cars,and would love to be able to run them again sometime.We all had a blast running them.
Good luck fellas getting the Legends together!!

Hey Sharky, Smurf's had the idea of that class running at Bethel. I wouldn't mind bringing mine out of retirerment.:thumbsup:http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/thumbs/IMG_00041.JPG (http://photos.hobbytalk.com/showphoto.php/photo/24051)

I'll bring up some concerns i've seen elsewhere...
Switching to 1s Lipo means you may need to use a voltage booster for the servo, receiver, etc. Some people claim you can get away without using it, but i think that drop off oval racer 2 is seeing at his track might be a result of racers not using the voltage booster.




we tried it both ways, w/ a booster and w/ a reciever pack. it still fell of 4-5 tenths on a 5min run. the motors also got to 180-190 degrees vs. 130-140 when running 4 cell. i also tried dropping the gear and got same results, just slower overall.

btw, the new havoc 1s will not require booster or rx pack, its all built in the esc.

I'll bring up some concerns i've seen elsewhere...
Switching to 1s Lipo means you may need to use a voltage booster for the servo, receiver, etc. Some people claim you can get away without using it, but i think that drop off oval racer 2 is seeing at his track might be a result of racers not using the voltage booster.

Secondly, not everyone has a 1s Lipo, especially people looking to get into WGT, Oval or Legends who racing something else. They all have 2s Lipos. So there is another concern.

Last that i can think of, 4-cell/17.5 was an option in Vintage Trans Am that was supposed to be comparable to 4-cell/27 turn. It was a dog. That may not be the case in a direct drive car, but i'm just throwing that out there.

To be honest, i'm not really trying to start any arguments or downplay any options. Just playing Devil's Advocate and providing some food for thought.

Our own club, www.bearrc.com, is looking at the RJ Speed Sport 3.2 as a possible spec/newbie/optional class. We have yet to test the rules but we are looking at Tamiya Silver Cans (NO Red Dots), any Brushed ESC, 2s Lipo and a limited gear ratio. However, the new Havoc/25.5 looks tempting at $130. If it works out the way i'd like, we could just hand newbies a box with EVERYTHING they would need at a decent price (no profit for us) and tell them we'll see them next week. :wave:

What rollout were you running with the 17.5 compaired to the 27 turn?

Fellas/Pejota,When RCLegends was around,myself and I wanna say his name was Casey
were talking brushless stuff,and alot of racers were messing with 13.5
If anyone is looking for a good cost effective package,I'm near positive the Havocs' will be available w/ a 13.5 motor also.As of late we're running the SK's w/ 1S and 13.5,and the speeds are quite manageable,just another option to consider.The guys/we in the northeast ran 4-cell w/ the black Tamiya Sport-tuned motor w/ great results!!
IMO,I think the days of round-cells are near over.I very much agree that $$ can scare away a new racer,but thats where the club comes in. Hand the new guy the radio,and turn him loose!! Fun-factor will surely help in purchasing a Li-Po batt or 2.
Have any of you looked into the "LiFe-Po" type of batts at 6.6 volts,and hundreds upon hundreds of charge cycles?? These are nowhere near potentially dangerous as a Li-Po either.Great thread!!!!

Long live the Legends!! wadda ya' think 'Jester?? ;)

In Syracuse dwe are usint the Duratraxx Photon II with a 4 cell Nimh 3800

Sound good to me. LiFe-po or Lipo and brushless are the way to go as long as speeds are manageable for newbes. And a lot less maintiance on the motor and batteries is easyer for them also. The 6.6 volts are good for not needing a rx pack, but might be too much speed depending on the track. Theres a big difference between turn4,madness,and the old GMX.

Ok guys GOOD NEWS , I have talked to TEAM Epic (Trinity) and they said the 21t spec brushed motor is still available as well as the 4cell Batteries . I think he said Tower Hobbies has stopped selling some of there stuff so They said to talk to your hobby shops or call them and place a order and they will take care of us hardcore Spec racers. I hope this helps everyone out and lets bring good competitive Legends racing back and lets have fun .:cool::wave::thumbsup::):)

That is GOOD News!

Phantom,
Thank you for your effort calling Trinity. T.C.M.:thumbsup::wave:

http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=267603
Guys keep your eyes on this thread.New tracks coming this Spring in Danbury/Bethel Ct. area. BRCRO will have a nice place to race!!

Tranny Car Man,Check out the new R/C Madness,we had 2 heats of SK's Sat nite.
1S w/ 13.5 Quite a few pancars too.I'm sure if enough cars for a class show,the crew will run them.

Does anyone know where I can get some chassis skins? I've googled and yahoo'd until my fingers bled. Went to my local vinyl shop and her head almost exploded when I explained what I wanted and showed her a chassis rail.

Thanks.

wurth,Last place I saw them was on the RCLegends.com site. Casey had a neat site,and too bad it's gone.Best bet is to keep tryin your vinyl shop.Or.........take a look around for some of the graphics guys here,as maybe some sort of wrap might work for ya'. HTH

Previous post is correct. I have one of Casey's chassis wraps on my Legend. He moved and closed the RCLegends.com website and hasn't responded to any of my e-mails so I think he is closed down permanently. I can get you a picture of my wrap so you can show someone how it looks. Casey's were the best since they came with the holes and slots alreaday cut out and you just stuck them on the chassis plates.

We run Spec Legends and 13.5 Novak brushless and 1 cell Lipo together at our track. We have seen either car win some races. There are 6 to 8 running and on a given night it can be a toss up. We don't run boosters, or receiver packs. Our heats are 4 minutes and mains are 5. No one has used much out of a 1 cell lipo as far as MAHs. It usually takes about 1,100 MAH to recharge mine. I have run two heats without recharging and still had lots of battery left. We are on a very fast, small, high banked carpet oval. Fast lap in Legend is 3.4 seconds. You never lift unless there is a wreck. I am geared 27 pinion 81 spur tire diameter of 2.25 for a roll out of 2.35. I have never seen the motor even get warm. I can't gear up much or will run out of track.