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11-14-2002, 01:15 AM
O.K. GUYS MY 700 IS GETING READY TO HIT THE FLAT TRACKS AT HAMILTON OHIO FOR THE SNOWBIRD WARMUPS, I DONT RUN TOO MUCH FLAT TRACK IF ANY AND REALLY COULD USE A GOOD STARTING POINT FOR THE CAR. ANY HELP WILL BE APPRECIATED!
11-14-2002, 09:56 AM
-philb1...always monitor your compound with a durometer...this is the most important aspect that racer sometimes forget...if its too soft...let it sit or clean it...then let it dry..it should go back up(clean it with regular dish soap..)...its important that ounce the tire been soaked with tire traction...don't let it soak too long..approx 5min...monitor this too.....the first time out...you should apply it onger...10 min...but afterward...during the day...5 is ok....all this is mostly with paragon...as this sauce is hard on foams.....myself i'm running paragon on hard tires..or on left sides only!...i'm using TQ modified tire traction...from racer's choice..
-frank p...go to page 6 on this thread...there is a good starting point...go to a centered pod if the track is not that hot(hot temperature...or sticky)then play with springs...if tight go harder sides to sides...if loose..then go softer...
11-14-2002, 12:14 PM
ziggy , i HAD A PROBLEM WITHTHE NEW RADIO LAST WEEKEND .... cALL ME TONIGHT YOU SAVAGE....srm:mad:
11-14-2002, 12:19 PM
Whats up pitty, SMC what new radio did you get. Next weekend its on.ADX upon ya. I just talked to zubak, he's coming and so is Talbateen.. Talk to you later. Rhino:dude: :dude: :dude:
11-14-2002, 04:19 PM
I got a 40 meg Ko radio and I love it BUT i need to talk to Ziggy .ASAP Dosceck is giving me the hookup on extra stuff for the system.... Later Bro SRM:devil:
11-18-2002, 12:26 AM
I currently own an old H10RS, if anyone remembers that one, and am curious as to whether i can upgrade that car to maybe a 510 or 700 without too much expense. The H10RS is basically stock with a trinity evo. front end and irs axle. Or am i better off just getting a whole new car and letting this one spend the rest of its days hanging on the wall. Any help is appreciated. Am looking at running at Sandhills till May then go to Chatham, NC after that.
11-18-2002, 02:13 AM
Get ya a fresh new one. You will be ahead money and time and much happier.
11-18-2002, 09:02 AM
my new 0700 car is running great, but i am having a problem with getting through the bumpy spots in the carpet. i have changed shock oil in my hpi center shock from 50 to 40, softened the spring from a TC3 silver down to the stock silver kit spring, all with little effect. is the hyper medium spring steel t plate the problem?
11-18-2002, 12:08 PM
Thanks john. thats what i thought, after comparing pictures of the two i see theres no similarities. i may try putting a slider kit on that chassis and see how that works. if it wont work i will just hook up my other car. just trying to keep this as a second car just in case.
As I understand the spring steel plates are for smooth tracks you will need a fiberglass one for the bumps.
11-18-2002, 10:12 PM
pepe.... we batted it around at the hobby shop this afternoon. i guess we came up with the same thing. thanks for the reply
11-30-2002, 07:47 PM
I am having trouble getting the front end to stick in the middle of the cornors it goes in great but it isnot consistant it sticks sometimes but then again it will push out in some areas....right now i have the front end in all the way on the left amd all the way out on the right .....i started with the front end in the middle on both left and right but i was having this same problem ....i even tryed a servo last nite and it acted the same way I started out with black tires on the front i have changed to green but it still actd the same way ...any help would be apperciated thanks
11-30-2002, 08:33 PM
Try offset rear pod and moving the LF all the way out !!!!! I did this and made mine much better also be sure the LR is in flush with the LF !!!!! Move the battery tray all the way up put the pack in the back 5 to 6oz on the LR!!!!!! HOPE THIS HELPS SEE YA HACKSAW:devil:
12-01-2002, 10:33 AM
It might simply be your tire setup...
Try a BSR purple on the right front (48-52) or a BSR blue (46-50).
PS. Also, make sure the preload on the front springs is right! Put just enough preload so the front suspension doesn't sag down.
12-01-2002, 11:53 AM
Guys -- I just heard that HD is coming out with a new thicker chassis plate for the 700.
I'd like one of the team guys to comment on why they are doing that. I've expressed here before that I was surprised by the amount of chassis flex it had. Now that they are putting out a thicker chassis plate I'm wondering if they realize it's too much flex.
Looking forward to hearing the story on this.
12-01-2002, 12:31 PM
12-01-2002, 05:21 PM
The story is Barry and Joe are always looking for things to make ther cars better !!!!! Some racers say no flex is good and some say flex is good !!!!! You can bet that Barry stays on top of what needs to be done evan though hes not on here all the time hes all ears !!!!!! SEE YA HACKSAW TEAM HYPERDRIVE:devil:
12-01-2002, 05:24 PM
pancartom, You maybe to soft for the bump. I know its crazy but it you glide over the bump, besides absorbing the bump you should be faster. Where is the bump? in the corner or straight. Also, make sure the car isn't bottoming out, the car might be too low. If it is a shock oil/spring will do nothing for you.
12-01-2002, 09:17 PM
Hacksaw -- OK.. so when is flex good and when is it not good ??
What applications would the new thicker chassis be good for ??
12-01-2002, 10:02 PM
good point, JF.... the bump is in the middle of the front straight. if i let my car drift up off the corner like it wants to, the bump really upsets it. if i pinch it down, no bump, but it isn't the fast way around either. i've been on vacation for a couple of weeks, so, hope to get back to the track this sunday to see what i can do to fix it.
thanks for the reply
12-01-2002, 10:13 PM
My thinking is the thick one is better on a high banked track where it puts a lot of stress on it !!!!! I like a thin on a flat track I think you need the flex to make it work in the corner!!!!! The thick one will also work better on a high bite track makes the car more free in the corner !!!!! SEE YA HACKSAW:devil:
12-01-2002, 11:45 PM
Thanks Hacksaw, i tried your suggestions tonite and it really loosed up the back of the car and even helped to make the car more conistant in the cornor later this week i am goint to try some different tires to make it better... this thread is the best and also the people that support it...thanks again
12-02-2002, 07:37 AM
Lets see if we can find another way to get more money out of people wanting the new car.
12-02-2002, 07:53 AM
Have the new offset pod plates been released yet? I was looking at rc4less page and they are not listed.Also I was wondering if anybody has tried to use the 6 cell tray and set it up like the ksg car?
12-02-2002, 07:55 AM
I ment the speed control and reciever on the tray?
12-04-2002, 02:16 PM
Just finished building my 700. I can hardly wait to race it.
12-04-2002, 03:43 PM
The Offset Pod Plates have been released....the rear steer plates have not though.
The 6 cell tray is a standard tray....you can still mount your "stuff" on it though.
12-04-2002, 10:23 PM
My car gets in fine. In the middle of the turn the front end will load up you can see the body roll it then will break front traction than grab then break. I have blues out back and they still drive it hard. coming out if the car does turn the rear end breaks as the chassi unloads. Again it gets in good but just wont turn thru. I am middle up front and the rear is = distant from the cars center point to tire tips. Centered pod green right spring red left both progressive wolfs with long kings. I have adj camber even arms left side o hole down on right for a little added in turns. rear springs silver left blue right. green associated center. blue rears soft front inside is a green and outside jaco blue on hard side.
Runung batts all the way out and 3/4 to rear. One time it turns next it pushes/slides the front next it gets 3/4 thru and rear breaks.
I never been this off before.
Everything is silky smooth no catches in shocks or kingpins. T-plate is smooth. Find anything yet let me know ? Thanks !
PS I would like to keep the front in the middle for now and fine tune with it latter.
12-05-2002, 09:46 AM
what kind of track are you racing on?
12-05-2002, 10:37 AM
superslow it sounds like a tire compound problem or a servo problem. not really a chassis issue. if it was doing the same thing over and over then i would say chassis. but being so off at different points of the turn i'd say tire or servo, of course i'm going by you saying theres nothing bent or binding. keep us posted on what you find or you can email me email@example.com
12-05-2002, 12:46 PM
Hacksaw, Your right on the money with the bank vs. flat. On the CARPET running mod slamming the car at 40mph in the corner you need something a litle more stiff!!!! You can go with harder springs up front but if the track is rough the car will bounce. All in all its a good car!!!
12-05-2002, 01:12 PM
Mike,I finally got the 700:) Could you please post the setup you ran at Marshalls,or point me in the right direction :devil: Your package went out today sorry about the delay!!!
12-05-2002, 05:17 PM
Flat ozite 115 groove track Tom.
The servo is good 9601 smooth and no deadband. I put it on a scope. Rule that out .
Tire Compound. Do you mean I am running to soft a compound out front right?
Thanks Mike ! Yours seemed to burn up the track when you stopped by for the northeast championship race !!!
You had like no body roll
Mine is real real noticable the body really rolls onto the front.
12-09-2002, 07:22 AM
so when is the new thick chassis going to be availible (sp) and what thickness? maybe .120 thick
12-09-2002, 09:42 AM
impact sorry ididn't get a chance to post the setup, but it is the same basic setup i run every where. i'll give you a call when i get a chance. when are you going to be home?
superslow the servo may not have enough power or holding power to work in a 1/10 scale car. what front tires are you using.
B mullins when i talk to barry (hyperdrive owner) on friday, there are no plans to make a thicker chassis. if your having problems getting the car to handle feel free to ask any questions here or e-mail me firstname.lastname@example.org
12-09-2002, 10:17 AM
Finally discovered that there are private messages on this! i replied back to you about the front end.
Super slow I've always been told that you need at least 50 in oz's of torque for a 1/10 oval car I couldn't find the specs on a 9601 but mike is right it may not have enough holding power.
12-09-2002, 11:30 AM
rcavenger when did you send it i don't see anything in there. please send again. :wave:
from what this chart says it won't be enough to steer the 1/10 scale correctly. it only has 36 oz,hope this helps.
12-09-2002, 11:39 AM
Hey guys I thought I'd throw my 2 cents on the subject since that's all I'm having for servos: 9601 (3 of them). I never had a single servo problem in the last 5 years. Raced them on high banked concrete and asphalt ovals (SugarBowl, Tri-Clone, Spring Cove, etc.) and on high banked carpet ovals (K&N, SandHills, etc.).
12-09-2002, 11:47 AM
I seem to have not sent the message?>? anyway, i just emailed u on the address u listed in your original message.
12-09-2002, 12:05 PM
rcavenger sorry i did get your e-mail to msv3875 account but i can't send from that at work. i sent you an e-mail, but may have sent to other account. i would be vary interested working with you. i'll private messageyou with my number so we can talk.
12-09-2002, 12:07 PM
sounds good. seems like your place of work must screen your emails more closely than mine..:rolleyes: i might try to call u tonite...kick around some ideas.
12-09-2002, 05:02 PM
I switched to a HS-mg servo and had the same problem.
I jerked with the chassi all day one day and I could not get it to work. I finally changed out my tires and it was like a different car.
I used the same compounds on all the corners but the surface of the tires look more porus. The originals look smooth and grey ish bluish. smooth no pours in the surface.
They were soft just did not grip????
I hate to scrap good tires but they seem to be worthless
Anyway the chassi changes all work as they should and im back on track.
What tires do you like for bull rings ? I don't want to get any more paper weights !!!
12-09-2002, 05:06 PM
superslow trc grey rears and black right front, green left front. you can run black right rear if your track has alot of traction or running 4 cell stock.
12-09-2002, 08:19 PM
12-09-2002, 09:02 PM
Mike I won with it first time out but a 61 03 !!I cant get it to drive hard out of the turns tried movimg lr in. I'm using the stock axle and hubs with spacing as per the directions.The car is great getting in.I'll be home wed.Did you get your pkg.?
12-10-2002, 09:20 AM
impact didn't get the package.:mad: no package=no setup:lol: call you wed night what t-plate and center shock setup are you running
12-10-2002, 06:24 PM
Mike I was running a hpi #1 50 wt in the center,30 wt in the sides red lr gold rr short in the rear centered in the front.Irs castor blocks rf in&bottom lf in&top 20 springs brp med lube norm tire setup with whites in the rear.Oh yeah an .063 hyper drive graphite t plate.
12-11-2002, 09:45 AM
What would be a good starting point for the front plates on a flat, 160ft. runline, smooth track? running 4 cell stock. currently have the LF all the way in, and the RF all the way out, shortest wheelbase.
12-11-2002, 10:48 AM
impact i neve run the hpi shock, run 50 wt # 1 piston in the asc shock, and red truck spring cut 8 coils. 40 wt sides blue spring lr, gold rr. which t-plate there all .063 graphite, the diff is the size of the cut out in the plate. i normally run the hd spring steel at marshalls.
rcavenger i have never had to run the shortest wheel base options. just makes the car to twitchy and looses drive because of it. alot of people swear by short wheel bases but i have never found them to be faster, especially in a slower class like 4 cell stock. when i run stock i use the middle wheel base in the front and long in the rear, and both lf and rf in the middle width locations.
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