lower hole hyperdrive castor block
.05 under upper pivot ontop of steering block
:wave: [/B]
Thats a lot of camber gain on the rf.
Whats the .125 pod drop do for you?

Also do you have a 19t setup? My track is just like the snowbirds track except the straightaway is 4' shorter.
Here's my setup-
tires-BSR
rf-purple
lf-gray
rr-gray
lr-white
front-
inline front axles
middle wheelbase holes
teflon pivot balls
RF-
1/16 spacer between lower arm to castor block
middle hole for upper arm pivot
3 shims in back for caster
wide front position
white wolfe spring
LF-
1/16 spacer between lower arm to castor block
top hole for upper arm pivot
1 shims in frt, 2 in back for caster
narrow front position
red wolfe spring
rear-
centered pod
short wheelbase
side shocks 30 wt with blue asc springs
center shock 25 wt w/stock silver spring
lr as close to pod as possible
rr 1/8 spacer
trc med/stiff spring steel t-bar


The only problem I'm having is that the car scrubs a little bit of speed coming in and can't get it back until
halfway down the straightaway. It's only about a tenth off of the pace, but that seems like a lot with the people I'm racing with.
Any Help would be appreciated

davz i have never liked to run purples onthe right front the bite to hard and scrub speed entering the turns, also 25 wt seems vary lite for those t-plates go up to like 50 and switch to a black right front tire. if the car pushes with the black move the right fron to the middle width position. i never go by the shims in the front end just tke you chamber gage and use that to also measure castor. hope those things help if not try moving the rear width aroud i don't push the right rear out that far,when going so it turns in slower and turns off better.

I finished 2nd in 19 turn with a 700. Car was great all week. I just lost touch with the track and tires on Sunday. I ran the exact same setup in 19 turn and Mod.

2 degrees camber RF, 1.5 degress LF.
4 degrees caster RF, 0 degrees LF.
Middle front wheel base and middle width both sides, short rear wheel base.
Red Wolf RF spring, Green wolf LF.
Hyperdrive spring steel tplate.
Red RR spring, gold LR spring, Hpi Linear Orange center spring.
50 wt #2 piston center, 35 wt side shocks.
Straight up pod location. Shock length out on cross brace and in on top plate.
Tires were Hard BSR Black RF, and 3 white BSR's everywhere else.
Protoform HD Montecarlo with small thunder wing on the body in 19 turn and large Thunder in Mod.

Hope this helps.

Eric anderson

hi eric i was wondering where you placed the batteries how far back or forward i run on a similar track as the snowbirds with a little tighter corner and the same basic setup as you ran any help would be appreciated thanks Brad

Brad I ran the 6 cell tray with the batteries all the way back, reciever, esc and cap on the front of the tray. The transponder was mounted off of the servo behind the lf tire.

eric

Just ran my 0700 offset for the first time -- 2 seconds faster than with it centered and wow does it drive off the corner!

I'm not going back to centered again.

Glad to hear you liked it offset, sure made a difference for us too!

i just ran my car for the first time this weekend at marshalls in honesdale. and it was pretty good for the first run. cept it seemed a tad unstable on the str8s when i was comin out of the turns. like it pushed up off the turns a lil then got a bit twitchy.

im running 3 greys and a black RF. 2 green wolfe springs.
-2 camber RF
1 camber lf
40wt shock oil on the side shocks
gold right side spring
blue left side
45wt center with cut down red spring
spring steal t-plate
10 inch length
tweak set so front tires lifted at the same time
compound on both back tires, left front and half right front. paragon
and it was 4cell 19turn

i hope i can get my car a bit better by this weekend. any help woudl be nice

Ps. Mike Valentine are you plannin on goin to marshalls this weekend or anytime soon? i would love you to take a look at my car for further assistence

:wave:
:devil:

Goodwrench,I also like my 700 offset.It is fast and consistant.I picked up about 2 to 2-1/2 seconds by putting on the 1/4 Degree rear steer and changing nothing else.It really turns nice and stays wherever you want it.If you come off the corner low, the speed doesn't seem suffer. I think there is more left to be gained with more tuning.I am sold on this combination for a 125 foot track.

MikeM -- what are you running for caster on the L and R ??

Thanks

At Track Side its 2 on left and 3 on right side. At Oshkosh we use 0 on left and 2.5 on right side.

2 on the Left ??? Hmmm... I've always run 0 on the left.

What does 2 on the left do vs. 0 ??

0 on the left makes the car want to pivot more in the center of the turn for us, so we try to get the car to transition smoother and drive off better. At Oshkosh or any tighter track is when we need the car to turn a little more so thats why we go to 0.

OK.. It's funny -- at Trackside, my car is always good through the corners at the end of the track where the announcer booth is (turns 3 and 4) -- but at the other end it's a little squirrily.

I wonder if the 0 caster on the LF has something to do with that.

It may because of the bumps going into the turn by the door. I think the car gets upset there from the bumps. Any time you have alot of caster split with alot of front end movement, from bumps, the car can get a little funny.

It's actually coming out of that corner where it's funny sometimes.

Isn't there a bump right around the apex there also? I thought Mike said there was and he could feel it upset the car sometimes.

Yeah that could be it -- it depends where my line is as to whether it comes off the corner good or squirrily.

I'll try less caster split and see if that helps.

Let me know what you think, or stop over next time we are there. Bruce's suggestion about the rear steer bottom plates is a good one, his car was even better with it!

OK.. I'll be over there again Friday night.

I walked over by your pits last Friday, but it didn't look like you had the HD there.

I figured the rear-steer plate would be a problem at a track with long straights like Scotty's.

We had it there just in case, been experimenting with the other car too. I don't think it does hurt on the straights because you really don't drag the rear wheels side ways you just end up dog tracking.

Yeah, Mike, I don't know why people think that you are dragging some wheels sideways down the straight when you run static rear steer. Like you said you just have a little countersteer on the straights. Just take your rear axle out sometime and lay it on top of the pod at an angle with the left side shorter. You can then see that you only need to turn the front wheels to the right a little to match the rears and voila. Everything is straight again, just a little offset for the straights.In this condition the right rear will stick out further than the right front a little more than normal, but everything becomes normal when the car starts to turn. The car may appear to be dogtracking a bit, but if everyone else sees it from the backside, all the better....You would not believe how many more experienced racers have argued this with me until I did the axle trick, and then they just said,Huh.

I look forward to chasing you again thursday night and hope we have some more visitors.

Your getting too dang close, won't be long!

Yeah,Mike, the car was good all night.I didn't get a chance to try some of the things I wanted to, but there's always next week. I got a slow start in the main and was catching second place when OX and I touched a bit and sent me into the center and into one of those wonderful saucers. I don't think I had anything for you guys though. But it is getting better all the time.

Yes it is and won't be long untill you crack that elusive 67!

Markey 86 no mod, i'm not going.lol decided to stay closer to home this weekend. good luck damn canadian:wave:

Mike V
Have you seen the new Hyperdrive 0700 team Kit?
If so do you have any pic.

I heard it's got red alum parts, castor blocks, alum shock tower, after market pivot balls for the front end and t-bar and 3 sets of progressive front springs. Two rear pod plates one centered and the other 2 degree.

Sounds like its top on the line pan car kit!

GO HYPERDRIVE :thumbsup:

Mike V
Have you seen the new Hyperdrive 0700 team Kit?
If so do you have any pic.

I heard it's got red alum parts, castor blocks, alum shock tower, after market pivot balls for the front end and t-bar and 3 sets of progressive front springs. Two rear pod plates one centered and the other 2 degree.

Sounds like its top on the line pan car kit!

GO HYPERDRIVE :thumbsup:

Thats almost right Speedpunk. The car that was given away at the Birds had the alumn pivot balls and springs. The car that is being sold comes with castor blocks, alumn shock mounts, wing mounts and buttons, servo mounts (with three mounting holes). The Team kits are all done in REd except for the Factory Team cars and theirs are done in Green.

On another note Hyperdrive has added two drivers to their Factory team. Big John Zubak, Owner of Zubaks Speed Products and Jamie Tennies from Wisconsin. So if you see these guys at the track and need some help dont hesitate to ask.

eric anderson

hey...welcome aboard Jamie and Big John...the EA0700 chassis is simply FAST...it won yesterday the 1st anual Jeff Sears memorial race at Plattsburg NY...

Eric Salvas
TEAM HD

where is everyone putting there electrics? what advantage is the to putting everything on the left?what does it do to the car

Donnie, This weekend at our lhs there were 3 hyperdrive 0700 cars in the field. They finished 1st and 2nd in mod and 3rd in 19 turn. All 3 cars had their electronic in different places. I'm not sure this is the answer your looking for but here it is anyway. My feeling is the more left side weight is better. Thats why they have a left side weight rule in nascar. The only thing is you have to figure out a way to balance the car with springs. Trial and error is the best thing I can tell you. I ran the 6 cell tray with my esc and rec on the very front of the tray right next to each other and that was on a high bank carpet track. Right or wrong???? Don't know.....just play and see what feels best for you.

Good Luck,
Rick Liehr
Team HD

Congrats Jamie and Big John. I think you'll be very happy with the new car. And now I have 2 more fast guys to pick their brains.

Congrats Jamie and Big John. I think you'll be very happy with the new car. And now I have 2 more fast guys to pick their brains.


the team kit also has the teflon coated aluminum pivot balls and both rear stear plates.

barry hill
hyperdrive

are the red alum parts going to be for sale separately or are they only in the team kits?

Thanks
B

the red parts will be available seperately.

i have the new lower plate for the associated t-plate for the 700 ..under what track conditions would i want to change the t-plate......thanks

i mean would the associated t-plate be better on a banked or flat track or is there no differance

smokey the major addvantage of the asc t-plate is that by just adding/removing the middle scew you can make one t-plate stiffer/softer. the real advatge came into play when running road courses where the l-plates have a different feal while turning left/right. now with all the aftermarket companies doing so many materials and thickness also cutouts thers no reason you can't get either unit to work on any track. hopefully that answered your question. easy rule to follow bumby track soft plate smooth track stiffer t-plate

Thanks mike....

Smokey, I changed my car over to the assoc style t-plate about 4 weeks ago. I race on the high banked carpet track. The big thing I noticed is that it applies weight more evenly to the rear tires. It has improved the foward bite in my car a bunch. I am a diehard 0510 car but the more I play with the 0700 the more I like. Don't be affraid to make changes(one at a time) to see what it does to the car. What works for me might not work for you and vise-versa. Track time and good setup notes will be your 2 best friends. Keep a log of the changes you make and how it affected the car. Have notes to fall back on incase you slow way down so that way you can go back to were you started with your setup. The biggest thing to remember is that different t-plates will change how the weight is applies to all 4 tires.


Good Luck,
Rick Liehr
Team HD

so how did changing to the 10L3 t-plate affect the car?

Anyone have a setup for Trackside with Jaco's?????? :confused: :rolleyes:

Donnie_99 i normally i don't see any difference between the two different stlye t-plates. the asc t-plates due tend to be softer and offer more forward bite then the older stuff, but alot of companies make the older plates just as soft or softer then the asc stuff. you just need to be running the right plate for the track. due to the fact the older plates use a solid spacer between the t-plate and the lower pod plate, the plates flex in different areas. the old plates flex between the pivot balls more then behind the rear pivot ball like the new t-plates with just washers attaching the t-plate to the bottom plate. so a .063 t-plate will act much softer then a .063 older stlye t-plate.

Anyone have a setup for Trackside with Jaco's?????? :confused: :rolleyes:

onefastdude,

White rears grey LF black RF if you are running mod I would put pink rears in your box and maybe some pink left fronts.

Tracksides run line is 208 ft role out for stock 2.28 and role out for 19T would be around 2.37 if you have anymore questions please feel free to ask

Jamie Tennies

Nice handle, Jamie.

yes it is! :jest:

yes it is! :jest:

I forgot to post the track records at Trackside for you dyno junkys
STOCK 46 4:03 19T 51 4:02 MOD ??
I think it will take a fast 45 and a fast 50 lap to make the show at Trackside good luck

Jamie T
Team Hyperdrive
Team 1 Factory Racing Team

Thanks for the tire help, any help with springs-oil-battery location anything else would be helpful. :eek:

i'm suprised your running more rollout in 19 turn then stock. 2.28 stock and 2.37 19 turn

onefastdude,

White rears grey LF black RF if you are running mod I would put pink rears in your box and maybe some pink left fronts.

Tracksides run line is 208 ft role out for stock 2.28 and role out for 19T would be around 2.37 if you have anymore questions please feel free to ask

Jamie Tennies

What springs/ oils for trackside?
I'm assuming you're running an 0700?