12-31-2002, 05:44 PM
Best thing you can do for this car is run it in offset position
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12-31-2002, 05:44 PM
Best thing you can do for this car is run it in offset position
12-31-2002, 05:45 PM
ours went from WAY to aggressive to being a rocket
12-31-2002, 06:18 PM
i tryed the offset pod and the car wanted to roll ...the one cornor is very tight
12-31-2002, 06:54 PM
Quantum and receiver on front battery slot, batteries all the way back and out. We run on a flat 125 bull ring this thing turns like crazy. gray RF greenLF and two whites in rear no stagger any where. Two green std. springs up front green center spring and two blue side springs 330 grams on LR (112g split)
12-31-2002, 07:12 PM
Mike when you offset the pod are you supose to move the axel over also....your setup is very close to mine i am using green tires on the front white on the rear with 110 grams split on the rear...thanks for the help
12-31-2002, 07:30 PM
I ground away uper and lower pod plates so I could move LR tire in as far as possible. It wound up about .100 out from LF. I have the front in middle position and all the way in on the right and in center position on LF. follow that?
12-31-2002, 07:32 PM
Do you have your electronics on left side of car also?
12-31-2002, 07:40 PM
no i still have the electronics on the right....i never moved the axel to the right to keep my track right....duhh....thanks mike i am going to try this set up mine is fast but not where i think it should be so i need to try it this way it sounds like your running real close to the same track i am
12-31-2002, 07:41 PM
green Rf may be too soft and bite too hard causing RF to dig real hard.
12-31-2002, 07:44 PM
i am running purple front springs and one stripe of compond on the right front also but i am open to sugestions
12-31-2002, 07:46 PM
try the electronics on the left side, we can turn under anyone and it drives off with offest pod!
12-31-2002, 07:51 PM
just my opinion but for 4cell racing I don't think you should ever be any stiffer that greens, just not enough weight to transfer.
01-01-2003, 01:56 AM
01-02-2003, 01:43 PM
Keep talking,Mike, I'm taking notes. 6 cell battery tray and offset pod will be my next purchases. See you tonight.
01-02-2003, 03:36 PM
I have been telling you that for weeks!:) See you tonight.
01-02-2003, 03:39 PM
mike how did you arrange your electronics on the 6 cell tray?
01-02-2003, 03:44 PM
Receiver and speed controll on first battery slot up front. Receiver to outside and ESC inside of it. Batteries all the way back and out.
01-03-2003, 10:47 AM
Oopppps sorry ESC to the outside and receiver to the inside.:)
01-06-2003, 11:22 AM
Hey Mike V, you have mail.
01-06-2003, 11:43 AM
Crew Chief the only mail in my folder i deleted because of the title. if thats was you with questions please write so in the subject area. i won't open subjects like that due to virus problems. japvsplay
01-06-2003, 12:02 PM
Mike I E-Mailed you using the E-Mail button at the bottom of your last post. It was around 11:15 this morning using the Hobbytalk E-Mail. The JapVSPlay was not me. Let me know if you can't find it. Thanks
01-06-2003, 12:41 PM
Crew Chief i don't have anything in my personal e-mail firstname.lastname@example.org or in my private messaging center from this site. you can try eiether one again. i see you don't have a pm why not? mike
01-06-2003, 01:08 PM
Thanks Mike. The problem was that the PM was turned off and I could not send or receive any private messages.
01-08-2003, 01:38 PM
Mike M. What is the part number for the 6/7 cell "Offset" tray? I can't seem to find a number for that part.
01-08-2003, 01:51 PM
Part number BT-7040 retails 26.99
01-08-2003, 01:58 PM
Now that's fast service!
01-08-2003, 02:10 PM
Wow, Thanks Barry. I just want to confirm that tray is compatible for the OFFSET position. PS great car.
01-08-2003, 03:47 PM
Never mind, my question has been answered. Apparently my car is one of the very early ones and the tray does not have enough clearance to the pod when offset. All later trays are offset compatible.
01-08-2003, 07:35 PM
Barooose the standard kit should come with a bottom plate that won't allow offsetting the pod. i've never been to a carpet track that you need to offset, and most off the concrete and asphalt track guys aren't running it offset either. i'm not telling you theres no case where it might be better but with the abality to move so much weight around with the battery pack and the newer stlye trays i've never seen an offset pod car out run a non offset car. mike
01-08-2003, 08:32 PM
Hey Mike I have to disagree with that I changed my car to off set after the NATS at BIGDADDYS went back to the TOYS FOR TOTS race and broke the track record by a lap !!!!! The car was like day light and dark from center to off set !!!!! That track is flat so I don't no on a banked track!!!!! Just my 2 cents worth !!!!!! SEE YA @ THE BIRDS HACKSAW:devil:
01-09-2003, 08:50 AM
hacksaw see you at the bird's, it will be nice to finally put a face with the screen name.:lol:
01-10-2003, 04:09 PM
Is there a E-MAIL address that I can talk with someone at Hyperdrive. NO complaints just want to ask a couple of questions. I tried the one on there web site but it would not go through. Thanks
01-10-2003, 04:19 PM
Bob Cole why not ask it here, if it's personal i know the phone number works.:roll:
01-10-2003, 04:40 PM
The E-Mail works now. Thanks
01-13-2003, 08:03 PM
hello guys....if i go into a sharp cornor hard the rear of the car will unload on the left side ..where can i start to fix this problem
01-13-2003, 10:29 PM
Stiffer LR spring and or stiffer RF spring. Or go to offset pod.
01-14-2003, 08:45 AM
harder RF tire helps this problem as well.
01-26-2003, 07:31 PM
Hey guys --
1) On what kind of tracks or conditions are you offsetting the rear pod on the 0700 ?? When do you run it centered ?
2) I've seen a lot of posts about running the spring steel t-plate on the 0700 -- what conditions/types of tracks do you prefer the spring steel vs the graphite t-plate ??
01-27-2003, 09:59 AM
Anybody have any info on my post below ?
01-27-2003, 10:14 AM
I have not had to run offset even in mod. You might need it if you have a condition where you are loose coming off of a corner and can't correct it any other way.
I always use the steel t-plate - unless the track is bumpy or rough.
01-27-2003, 10:19 AM
The TRC spring steel or the Hyperdrive spring steel ??
01-27-2003, 11:08 AM
I use the trc double slot.
01-27-2003, 07:06 PM
Goodwrench talk to Mike Makus the elder next time he's at Trackside.They run thier car offset everywhere.
Question for all you experienced 0700 owners,When mounting the servo did you think about the ackerman changes when changing the front wheelbase.Just lengthening or shortening the tie rods can have a big effect on ackerman and how much your car scrubs in the corners.I'm just building this car and will race on a variety of tracks from short tight carpet ovals to a large asphalt tri-oval.Any ideas or comments?
01-27-2003, 08:18 PM
Wow -- this is interesting. Some guys never run offset -- even in modified. Other guys only run offset.
Mike Valentine says you should never need to run offset, but Mike Makus runs offset everywhere.
Another guy swears he picked up a lap and a half by going to offset.
I'd like to hear from other guys who are running the 0700 offset on flat carpet tracks and why the decided to offset it.
01-27-2003, 09:32 PM
Team Goodwrench - I think you probably can make either work. It's hard to say if one is really faster than the other. I used to run the old style ADX. The first year I ran offset and the second year I ran straight up. I got the same results both ways. I do think that there are certain tracks where you may have to run offset. I know of one track that might fit that description - the floor under the carpet was different under turns 1 and 2 when compared to 3 and 4. I could get a car to work in 19turn but mod probably could have used offset - but I did not change over because no one raced mod there and I was just trying to get a mod setup.
01-27-2003, 09:45 PM
I run stock and was thinking about offsetting the rear pod and putting the 6-cell tray on -- so i could run the receiver and esc up front on the tray and the 4 cell pack to the rear. My thinking was that with moving all of the stuff up the left side it might drive off the corner better of the pod was offset too.
Maybe I'm way off -- but I thought I'd try that.
01-27-2003, 11:08 PM
me too i am trying to decide to off set or not for the birds. any tips on getting the servo in the right place ?
not sure if i have the angle of the tierods right or not
01-28-2003, 02:09 AM
the theory of offseting is primarly leftweight...
when cornering(to the left for us OVAL racer)...weight is being transfered from left to right side...the amount of weight being transfered depends on....traction being offered by the surface your on...and mechanic of the car(tire compound...springs...damper...)
when weighting a car(on a neutral position...)you want the left side of car heavier than right side...so when cornering the car will shift weigh to right side wich will give a good traction...BUT...if when cornering...the right side weight becomes heavier than left side...trouble occur...loose...tight...traction roll(when the right side comes heavier...the left front tire begins to lift(car come tight)...or the LR lift..the car is loose or it may flip(left sides come light and lift then roll..)
so how do we set the amount of left weight....too much...not enough...
on a rule of thumb...when you're on a slick(or low traction)race surface...there will be less weight transfered to right side of the car...so you'll need less weight on left side...or the car may stay heavier on left side when cornering...wich will cause the car to be unstable..or loose...SO...centered pod...and possibly the pack could be move toward inside...
AND...on a tachy(sticky)race surface...there will be more weight transfered to the right side wheels...so now...if you don't have enough neutral left weight..the left side of car could lift while cornering...the car could be tight(left front lifting)...or flip(traction roll)LR lifting...
THEN...when surface is slick...centered pod
when its sticky...offset pod
for instance...at the snowbird...at the beginning of the week...the carpet in brand new...(which means less tracion...equal less transfered weight)...go with straight pod...then towards the end of week...more traction is available(the track become darker...caused by tire traction being layed down)then there will be more weight transfered to right side of car...which could result in traction roll...and possibly you should go then to a stiffer RF tire, thicker oil in sides shocks...on a slick surface..you'll need a softer RF cause your missing some tracion(the RF is the most important tire when discussing weight transfer)
on high bank track...the weight is mostly transfered toward the center shock(up and down)..the car is compressing in the corner...so you could need less left weight...on a flat surface...the weight is strickly move from left to right..so you should need more left weight at the neutral position...then an offset pod should(...should...)be a good idea...depending on the surface adhesion...
but ounce again..don't forget that this is all depending of the tire you're running(mostly RF)and...
like Mike Valentine said...he mostly run centered...why you could ask...well he mostly run is car with a wing...which give you good stability of the car...and rear traction...so offseting the pod would make the car simply thighter..remember in most occasion..loose(or free)car is faster
remember that dampening(side shocks...)affect the speed you transfer weight...thicker oil will holds weight to the inside(left side..sticky racetrack)..thinner oil will ease the transfer(slipperry track condition)...
hope this helps
01-28-2003, 07:57 AM
Kick butt post !! Thanks !:thumbsup:
01-28-2003, 08:56 AM
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