I'd say J.J. must be doing something right:


http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS181729+11-Mar-2009+PRN20090311


New Trailer for J.J. Abrams' 'Star Trek' Breaks All Existing Records With Over
1.8 Million Downloads During First 24 Hours on Apple.com

Trailer Also Breaks Weekly Download Record With Over Five Million Downloads
Since Exclusive Debut on Apple.com/trailers on March 6th

LOS ANGELES, March 11 /PRNewswire/ -- The new trailer for J.J. Abrams' "Star Trek" had more than 1.8 million downloads during its first 24 hours on Apple.com and has gone on to become the most popular HD download ever on the site with more than five million downloads in its first five days. The trailer made its exclusive debut on Apple.com/trailers on March 6th giving fans asneak peak of this summer's highly anticipated "Star Trek" for viewing on their Mac or PC, iPhone or iPod with video.

Yeah. This movie's gonna' tank, alright. All because the Enterprise doesn't look exactly like it did in 1966. :p

I agree. ;)

I was at an insurance company today and was chatting with the young and very pretty gal at the front desk. I asked her if she'd seen 'Watchment' yet and she said she'd didn't have time, but she had seen the Trek trailer. Her eyes got big and she smiled and said enthusiastically, 'now that's a Trek movie I want to see!'.

This is what is needed for Trek to survive into the 21st Century. NEW PAYING CUSTOMERS!!!

I am puzzled at the assumption here that critics of the new movie are slavish devotees of the original series.

Personally, I have had a take it or leave it attitude towards Star Trek. I think the originals are interesting at times -- lame at others.

STTNG was highly lame until later on -- after they had dumped Will Robinson from teh show.

Enterprise was a disaster.

The films varied in quality.

When I saw the trailers to Generations and and nemesis, I didn't go because it was obvious they sucked. When I saw them on TV, it confirmed I was right.

As such, I don't think slavish following of the old school is the way to go. They should get the best of the old and the new because the good olde days of ST are not as great as people seem to remember.

Trailers tend to be better than the movie its. I've never seen a movie that was better than its trailer. There have been a few--not many---movies with great trailers that really sucked (E.g. Beetlejuice).

And I think Roddenberry was a TV producer, not some kind of genius.

That said, hen I look at that trailer, it does not bode well. Reminds me of the same type of stuff in the Nemesis trailer.

What trek needs to survive in the 21st century is good writing.

You need to go into this with an open mind...I'm looking forward to seeing it!

If you go in without too much expectation, then you won't come out dissappointed! ;)

Sure, it is NOT at all like the originals...and it NEVER EVER will be!

MMM

Yeah. This movie's gonna' tank, alright. All because the Enterprise doesn't look exactly like it did in 1966. :p

Well, honestly, that's pretty much my only real objection. I love the ol' girl dearly, and I think the new one is truly hideous. If they thought they needed to update it - did they have to make it hideous? Is that the modern design ethic - hideous?

The rest - I'm of the "we'll see" mind set. If it's a fantastic plot, well done and well-acted, then fine. But I'll still hate what they did to the Gray Lady.

The rest - I'm of the "we'll see" mind set. If it's a fantastic plot, well done and well-acted, then fine. But I'll still hate what they did to the Gray Lady.

Not a perfect analogy, but this situation sort of reminds of The Tumbler hatred leading up to "Batman Begins". That "reboot" worked out pretty well.

Yeah, but as good as the movie was, I still hate the Tumbler.

Yeah, but it's gone now... to be replaced by...?

Yeah, but as good as the movie was, I still hate the Tumbler.

While I think the 60's Barris Batmobile was one of the coolest cars ever, I don't think it's very realistic to expect a modern-day Batman to drive around in one.

While I think the 60's Barris Batmobile was one coolest cars ever, I don't think it's very realistic to expect a modern-day Batman to drive around in one.

And the whining back in '89 about the Barris-mobile not being in Keatons Batman movie was very loud. Almost as loud as the crying over it not being based on the 60's series as well.
I think in all the comic shops I went to during that period, almost to a person, everyone said the movie would bomb because of those two reasons......the whining about Keaton as Batman is a whole other topic.

Yeah, but as good as the movie was, I still hate the Tumbler.

Ditto there mate :thumbsup:

Yeah, but it's gone now... to be replaced by...?

Something much better one hopes :rolleyes:

But as the new trek film indicates hollywood don't always get it right for what ever reason. :drunk: Like... Why didn't they keep the red bussard domes is all I want to know??? :(

I'm not a big fan of the New E either. The saucer section and engineering hulls are ok, but the pylons to the warp nacells look weird to me ... and not because they are neither a match for the original TOS or TMP version. And if I didn't know better, I would say the warp nacells look like they were a somewhat out of proportion and inaccurate toy version of the "real" ship. Also, I think the navigational deflector looks too much like the effect they are putting in the warp drive. This is really obvious on the Kelvin, where it's tough to tell which is the warp drive unit and which is the engineering hull. But they don't pay me to design these things (for good reason) so I'm not going to get too critical.

But I really don't care too much ... the ship still looks enough like the E that I can accept it as a "reboot" and a "reimagining" of the series. Everything I have read makes this seem like a very character driven story, even if the trailer makes it look like nothing but a bunch of explosions. And while they are obviously playing loose with "canon", it seems like they are keeping more of the known history than they are discarding. So I'm hopeful it will be an interesting take on the story. And if it's a good story and good movie, great.

Having grown up on TOS, I'll probably never completely embrace the reboot, but that doesn't make me hostile to it. I think it looks promising and more power to them.

While I think the 60's Barris Batmobile was one of the coolest cars ever, I don't think it's very realistic to expect a modern-day Batman to drive around in one.

How did you translate "I still hate the tumbler" into "I wish he was driving the 1966 car?"

How did you translate "I still hate the tumbler" into "I wish he was driving the 1966 car?"

I didn't, I was making the point though I didn't like the Tumbler either, I can easily see why they couldn't use the original cooler design, it'd look incredibly dorky to have the Dark Knight in 2008 tooling around Gotham in a goth version of the Monkee-mobile with "Bat-Brake" and "Bat Wiper" signs plastered all over the dash.

Smiliarly, if you're making a movie about space travel in 2009, I hope you don't have the bridge crew sitting in slick naugahyde chairs, especially since during the entire history of Trek, in every single one of it's incarnations, we've seen the bridge crew thrown to the floor in about every every third episode, and in every single movie iirc.

Seems like somebody would have suggested by now some seat belts might be a good idea.

STTNG was highly lame until later on -- after they had dumped Will Robinson from teh show.
Billy Mumy was in TNG?!?! :confused: