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videojimmy
03-09-2009, 12:08 PM
Anyoen know how to do this?

I have a perfect wild ones 'Stang... except it's turning yellow.
How can I "unyellow" it without hurting the painted stripes?

help!

pshoe64
03-09-2009, 12:25 PM
When you find this out, post a dozen times! I have several that could benefit from such a technique. I have used soft polishes like Simichrome, but that will take the tampos off too. It works great for solid white cars though.

-Paul

joez870
03-09-2009, 05:14 PM
I've used Simichrome on the aurora bods at the sugjestion of Bill Hall. I carefully masked any paint I wanted to keep and let the elbow grease fly! :thumbsup: I have not tried it yet on a yellow'd bod yet.

Dranoel Dragon
03-09-2009, 07:58 PM
Try Windex. I don't have any really white T-jets but on other cars that have yellowed windex and a Q-tip cleaned them up pretty good without damaging the stripes.

Bill Hall
03-10-2009, 01:51 AM
WHOA! !

Remember that amoniated products will kill chrome on contact.

VJ: I guess the question I always ask myself is whether the yellowing is "schmootz" like nicotine, soot, dust...or is it UV or fumage/chemical damage.

No matter which way you approach it, a careful masking of the decos is almost inescapable. I use something like a pactra fine line tape to quickly zip around the art work and then fill in the middles.

Regardless of the road chosen; abrasion via a polishing compound or a chemical removal of some type it's often a crap shoot as to whether the art survives. Sometimes the deco will lift off if you pull the tape too aggressively.
Generally I poke around underneath (if it's stained also) or in test areas that are easy to work with. Once I figure out what to use then I figure out how not to screw it up. No matter what I always err to the side of caution and even then you get burnt down....cuz that is the will of the slot gods.

Side note: I have had some success with citrus cleaners. My progression goes something like this...

Dish soap and water
Simple green
Citrus cleaner
Powder cleanser rouge
Pinesol
Super clean
Easy off
Sandpaper/wet and dry, followed by automotive polishing compounds.

Hope this helps Jim!

videojimmy
03-10-2009, 09:02 AM
thanks guys... I think I'll start with the citrus cleaners first, since they seem the safest.

roadrner
03-10-2009, 10:07 AM
WHOA! !

Remember that amoniated products will kill chrome on contact.

VJ: I guess the question I always ask myself is whether the yellowing is "schmootz" like nicotine, soot, dust...or is it UV or fumage/chemical damage.

No matter which way you approach it, a careful masking of the decos is almost inescapable. I use something like a pactra fine line tape to quickly zip around the art work and then fill in the middles.

Regardless of the road chosen; abrasion via a polishing compound or a chemical removal of some type it's often a crap shoot as to whether the art survives. Sometimes the deco will lift off if you pull the tape too aggressively.
Generally I poke around underneath (if it's stained also) or in test areas that are easy to work with. Once I figure out what to use then I figure out how not to screw it up. No matter what I always err to the side of caution and even then you get burnt down....cuz that is the will of the slot gods.

Side note: I have had some success with citrus cleaners. My progression goes something like this...

Dish soap and water
Simple green
Citrus cleaner
Powder cleanser rouge
Pinesol
Super clean
Easy off
Sandpaper/wet and dry, followed by automotive polishing compounds.

Hope this helps Jim!

Great list. Was wondering if anyone tried to use some diluted bleach? Not that I have experimented with this.
:confused: rr

bobwoodly
03-10-2009, 01:24 PM
I posted a wanted ad to get some additional bodies to test with before proclaiming success, but with the one I did test, it worked perfectly.

Put your body in Hydrogen Peroxide in a container and put it in a sunny window. In 2-5 days your body will be significantly less yellow (in-fact you will see the Hydrogen Peroxide yellow over time). In my test body the paint was not affected and the body was returned to white (an Aurora AFX Ferrari 512M). I'm testing a tan and blue body now that had sun discoloration and it appears to be working.

Wish I had heard of this earlier!

Bill Hall
03-10-2009, 01:55 PM
RR, Randy uses bleach as a de-chromer.

Tom, Very cool and innovative ....this could be the tip of the year!!!! Please follow up with your findings.

I'm gonna give "polident" a whirl now and see. Hahahahahahahahahahahah!

NTxSlotCars
03-12-2009, 12:07 AM
How about Brake Cleaner?

Bill Hall
03-12-2009, 12:55 AM
Brake cleaner will kill art

NTxSlotCars
03-12-2009, 10:08 AM
:) :) :)

Hilltop Raceway
03-12-2009, 10:39 AM
Brake cleaner will kill art

Uh, A Dremel will to Rich!!! RM

bobwoodly
03-12-2009, 10:49 PM
Hydrogen peroxide continues to work on every body I've tried - even a dark blue car and a tan car that had slightly discolored - currently soaking in a plastic tub on my windowsill. It looks to take 3-5 days. I'll try to post some before and after shots this weekend. I don't know if it affects chrome, do I've been taking chrome off just to be sure. This stuff is mild (just don't get it in your eyes!) and requires no special handling and is cheap. It has not affected the paint on AFX of tjets but it does whiten the sun/age yellowed plastic.

Tom

NTxSlotCars
03-13-2009, 07:21 PM
How about Crest with Whitening?

joez870
03-14-2009, 10:41 AM
How about Crest with Whitening?

I hope you are joking. Toothpaste has abrasives. I have polished up 1:1 clear dashboard lenses with toothpaste (with great results) and have used it to lap brass gears with, but would never put it anywhere near the paint-work on a slot car. It is NOT a good way to make your slot car "minty".;)

T-Jet Racer
03-14-2009, 11:02 AM
I Use A Hammer, It Releases The Minty White From The Inside!!!

Don't Try This At Home Kids, Adult Supervision And Safety Goggles Required.

bobwoodly
03-14-2009, 07:07 PM
Here are a few of the cars before and after the Hydrogen Peroxide treatment. I'm sure the brightness in the pictures may be different but I took the pics with the same camera in the same location. You will see results. I used a clear plastic container, hydrogen peroxide and put them in a south facing window but they got little direct sunlight - I just think they need the UV.

pickeringtondad
03-14-2009, 07:25 PM
Nice, I'm gonna try it on a few bodies I have.


Pickeringtondad

slotcarman12078
03-14-2009, 07:33 PM
Great!!! Now we'll never be able to tell the white ones from the tan ones!!!! LOL :lol: Did Aurora really make a tan car??? :freak: Looking at the difference has me wonder if Aurora really made olive cars.... Maybe they were green to start???? :jest: Nice job finding the magical whitening solution!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

SplitPoster
03-15-2009, 12:05 AM
Bob, thanks for posting the pics! The before/after pics are pretty startling! Did the camera exaggerate the brightness of the white or make the '"before" cars look more tan? Were the "before" cars brighter on the underside? I have a few cars with one dingy side, I presume due to sun/UV. Nothing to lose with those I guess, so I'll give it a try!

Bill Hall
03-15-2009, 01:05 AM
THE trick of the year....maybe the decade Tom.

Thank you for sharing!!!!

AWESOME

AfxToo
03-15-2009, 06:57 AM
Very cool. Many teeth whitening products contain hydrogen peroxide in the solution as a bleaching agent, so this advice seems to have some sound scientific evidence to back your empirical evidence. I will definitely give this one a try. Goodbye Old Yeller.

roadrner
03-16-2009, 07:49 AM
Very cool. Many teeth whitening products contain hydrogen peroxide in the solution as a bleaching agent, so this advice seems to have some sound scientific evidence to back your empirical evidence. I will definitely give this one a try. Goodbye Old Yeller.

If you can, do the before and after shot so we can get a peek. Thanks, rr:thumbsup::thumbsup:

RacerDave
03-16-2009, 09:26 AM
Great idea. Thanks for posting the pix to show us how well it worked. I will give it a try. Dave.

Grandcheapskate
03-16-2009, 05:29 PM
Here are a few of the cars before and after the Hydrogen Peroxide treatment.

Wow! That is impressive.

Have you tried bodies other than Aurora?

Joe

T-Jet Racer
03-16-2009, 06:29 PM
Here are a few of the cars before and after the Hydrogen Peroxide treatment. I'm sure the brightness in the pictures may be different but I took the pics with the same camera in the same location. You will see results. I used a clear plastic container, hydrogen peroxide and put them in a south facing window but they got little direct sunlight - I just think they need the UV.

EXCELLENT!

joez870
03-16-2009, 06:42 PM
Boy, you should have seen the TM get steamed when I told her why I was taking her bottle of peroxide out of the cabinet! hehehehehehe!

I will have before and after pics too, hey! :thumbsup:

NTxSlotCars
03-16-2009, 07:19 PM
So, toothpaste with Hydrogen Peroxide whitening wasn't so far fetched? :D

Arm&Hammer is the best.

Rich :D

1976Cordoba
03-16-2009, 10:09 PM
There's a peroxide blonde joke in here somewhere but I can't seem to suss it out. :freak:

bobwoodly
03-17-2009, 08:31 AM
I've only tried Aurora but found the details on how to do it on the web from a toy collector - I think he collected transformers - and he had before and after pics that were amazing as well. I don't have any non Aurora yellowed bodies to try.

tjd241
03-17-2009, 03:03 PM
Hey Bob... Leave the glass in or take it out?? nd

videojimmy
03-18-2009, 12:32 PM
Well, the peroxide seems to be working... 2 days in and I see a BIG difference.
I left the glass in, but took the chrome off.

bobwoodly
03-19-2009, 06:56 PM
I've always left the glass in, last time I left the chrome in (without looking at is closely) - I think it may have affected the chrome negatively but since I really did not check first I'm not sure.

Tom

videojimmy
03-20-2009, 10:53 AM
Of all the tips I ever gotten here, this was the best one.

thanks!

T-jetjim
03-22-2009, 07:42 AM
Wow those before and after pics are amaizing. Must try this! I have some cars in great shape, just yellowed. I just accepted them as is. Now I can give them a new like!
Thanks.
Jim

afxcrazy
03-22-2009, 03:10 PM
If you have tried this please post a picture of the results.

Bill Hall
03-23-2009, 01:04 AM
The AMAZING results are on page 2!

bobhch
03-23-2009, 02:30 AM
Glad I saw this thread! The AFX White Police cars always seem to be yellowed and now I can try this out on one. Also have a fadded blue VW Thing body and will try to revive that one also.

Will post pics of before and after as soon as I get around to doing this.

Bob...great info...zilla

old blue
03-23-2009, 10:54 PM
This also works on the white back tires.

Grandcheapskate
03-25-2009, 07:55 PM
Does this treatment "bleach out" any of the other colors on the car? I want to try this with a white Tyco Corvette with a red stripe and number. I'm worried as to whether this will not only un-yellow the white parts of the body, but may fade the red stripe.

So I guess the question is whether this treatment causes a bleaching effect (which would whiten whites and fade other colors) or whether it actually releases whatever agent got absorbed from UV rays.

Thanks...Joe

bobwoodly
03-25-2009, 09:44 PM
Joe,

I've used it on colored and painted Aurora cars (tjet and AFX) and it did not affect the paint after several days in the solution. Have not tried Tyco but in general Tyco paint seems more fragile so you might want to try a Tyco junk body (of any color) to see what effect it has. It only seems to affect the plastic itself, had not changed glass - I'd remove chrome just to be safe.

Tom

Ligier Runner
03-26-2009, 02:08 PM
Impressed is an understatement. I've got an AFX Mercury stock car that is in need of this trick. Woo Hoo!

grungerockjeepe
03-28-2009, 09:54 PM
Whoa. I have a Tomy A/P corvette in white/yellow/black that is badly yellowed. Im definitely gonna give this a try.

roadrner
03-31-2009, 09:23 AM
Just remember to post berfore and after pix of your candidiates for cleaning. I still can't believe the difference in Tom's pic. :eek:

Thanks all! :thumbsup::thumbsup: rr

grungerockjeepe
03-31-2009, 09:14 PM
My vette has been soaking for 2 days in a small Gladware tub, and I havent noticed any HUGE difference.

I have it sealed with the lid on, which is blue. Wonder if I should leave it open? I also noticed that it keeps getting covered in bubbles, causing it to float, so Im using poster putty to weight it down.

slotcarman12078
04-01-2009, 08:26 AM
I believe the UV light is needed Grunge.. This is similar to the method some dentists use to whiten teeth.

Ligier Runner
04-01-2009, 10:05 AM
I goofed. I forgot to take a "before" pic. Regardless, it did work! I'm so impressed by this cheap and super easy fix. It made a very noticeable difference after just 3 days. I did notice during days when it was sunny it would start to bubble. I too had to weigh down the body or it would float. Wow. SO cool! I'm almost sad I don't have any other bodies in need of this treatment.

bobwoodly
04-01-2009, 05:13 PM
I tried it for a short time in the dark before getting the heads-up that you need sunlight (nothing happened in the dark). You may want to use a clear container. All I can say is it's worked so far for me but as I think Bill said you have to know the source of the "yellow", maybe it is something other than sun damage.

Sometimes it can take up to 5+ days and it may not be noticeable right away.

Tom

GoodwrenchIntim
04-01-2009, 06:13 PM
I noticed a BIG difference in a DAY on a tyco(sorry no b4 pics) but you do need to leave it in the sun