All,
Thinking of putting together an oval tour for S/K modifieds...Racing would on Sat. Nights as to not interfere with anyones Sunday Morning weekly show...This is just in the planning stages and looking to start up in
a few months......The goal is to get people racing and picking up attendence at the local tracks which are taking a hit....To keep costs down there will not be alot of give-a-ways but trophys to the series champion....
Tracks to think about are: K/N
Maximus
Enfield
R/c Hover
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Any Comments or Idea's...Please fire away!
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Classes on the Idea are S/K 13.5 1 cell (Pro- Stock)
S/K 27T (Spec Battery) TBA (Spec)
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Looking for a count on how many would be interested...PM or email with suggestions Bud3738@comcast.net

All,
Thinking of putting together an oval tour for S/K modifieds...Racing would on Sat. Nights as to not interfere with anyones Sunday Morning weekly show...This is just in the planning stages and looking to start up in
a few months......The goal is to get people racing and picking up attendence at the local tracks which are taking a hit....To keep costs down there will not be alot of give-a-ways but trophys to the series champion....
Tracks to think about are: K/N
Maximus
Enfield
R/c Hover
.
Any Comments or Idea's...Please fire away!
.
Classes on the Idea are S/K 13.5 1 cell (Pro- Stock)
S/K 27T (Spec Battery) TBA (Spec)
.
Looking for a count on how many would be interested...PM or email with suggestions Bud3738@comcast.net


Bud,

I think this is a good idea. Low cost for the racers and support for out local tracks.. I also think that timing is going to be the key. Maybe a summer tour or something like that would be good..
As far as the classes, Let not create any new classes. We don't want to split the SK racers that we already have.. Stock class = Novak 17.5 / 4 cell and maybe a Mod class of Novak 21.5 / 3200 lipo.


Just my .02

I think 13.5 1 cell is the way to go, 4cell is on the way out.
Once you use a 1cell, you will not want to use sub c's again. ;0)

I think 13.5 1 cell is the way to go, 4cell is on the way out.
Once you use a 1cell, you will not want to use sub c's again. ;0)

I also think it is the way to go, But waiting until after the summer break and starting fresh next race season would be the best start time for the class. I don't think spliting the drivers is what Bud wants to do, having bigger turnouts would be better for the tracks & tour.

13.5 1 cell SK is the way to go, I talked to many SK reg racers this past weekend and there all about the lipo switch. Even the enfield crew are on board. We should be thinking about making the switch soon or even introducing it because the sooner the better, i know of a few racers selling off there brushed equipment to offset the cost of buying a motor,battery to go lipo racing.

I would PROBABLY do the tour if we were to do 13.5 1 cell SK, I think this would be a good excuse to get the class started or run them both together since the speed is almost the same.

Bud,

I think this is a good idea. Low cost for the racers and support for out local tracks.. I also think that timing is going to be the key. Maybe a summer tour or something like that would be good..
As far as the classes, Let not create any new classes. We don't want to split the SK racers that we already have.. Stock class = Novak 13.5 / 4 cell and maybe a Mod class of Novak 21.5 / 3200 lipo.


Just my .02

why would we go from 17.5 4 cell to 13.5 4 cell was that a typo? also the only place I see 2s Lipo SK good for would be turn 4 and thats it. 21.5 2s lipo would be compared to 27t 6cell which we GOT AWAY from for a reason, it was just plain to fast for 95% of the current SK racers and twice the $$$$$ which we need to get away from, not to mention they drive like CRAP on a flat track because of that single damper tube.

Lets promote something that will be atleast compared to what is most popular and thats stock speed and lets face it already lipo is here dont fight it. lol

why would we go from 17.5 4 cell to 13.5 4 cell was that a typo? also the only place I see 2s Lipo SK good for would be turn 4 and thats it. 21.5 2s lipo would be compared to 27t 6cell which we GOT AWAY from for a reason, it was just plain to fast for 95% of the current SK racers and twice the $$$$$ which we need to get away from, not to mention they drive like CRAP on a flat track because of that single damper tube.

Lets promote something that will be atleast compared to what is most popular and thats stock speed and lets face it already lipo is here dont fight it. lol


Yes, Typo.... 17.5 was ment.

I only mentioned 21.5 Lipo as a "maybe" a mod. class

I also see adding another option to SK is only going to split up the racers for the remainder of the season. I agree that Lipo is the way to go, but set a date for the switch.. Don't devide the classes like what you see in Pancars.. Remember, "it's good for the good of the class".

How about single cell 17.5 for spec class. the spec packs are virtually impossible to get. Almost everyone has a 17.5. runthat and the 13.5 single cell lipo.
Have any of you tried the 17.5 with a single cell.
Dan

xman, that was my thought from the begining and was actualy going to be my next post for single cell racing. I have never ran 17.5 single cell but was told a bit slower than 13.5, I think that would be great for spec racing, but just a bit concerned on price compared to spec packs although I always see most spec racers with 4-5 packs that I would think add up to over 55bucks for the price of a single cell pack.


Here is the only prob I see with single cell. I hear talk about SMC and TP doing different single cell packs, higher mah possibly higher c ratings, I would hate to see it but it will happen I will bet on it. We can sit here and take a stand all we want and say well lets pick one battery but what happens when they wont offer that pack anymore? We are forced to buy the newest pack, I dont have a prob with buy whatever but others do. our season is 2months out from be over basically here in our area but testing or something would be nice so we can see what to expect for the next year.

How about single cell 17.5 for spec class. the spec packs are virtually impossible to get. Almost everyone has a 17.5. runthat and the 13.5 single cell lipo.
Have any of you tried the 17.5 with a single cell.
Dan
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That is a great idea...This we when someone wants to move on up they are only buying a motor.....thanks!

Guys

Lets face it we will always have some kind of battery conundrum?
SMC says it will produce the same battery for a while.
I have 2 spec packs one my buddy uses the other for me. Well it has s--t
the bed and no good any more. Tried my old 3300's the other night did not notice much change. Not going to buy any more crappy packs. making a proposal to use 3300 with the spec packs at our track this week. I will even give the packs to the sk racers. I have about 15 packs.
even at 20 bucks four 4 packs $80
$69 for booster and single cell pack to run all year pretty sweet deal. Other wish throw away my 17.5 which no one will use any more.
Who makes up the SKOR rules. Which we use at eastridge track.cheers
Dan:thumbsup:

Skor rules were made up from a few racers here in CT, one of which no longer runs or sells products from what I was told but names are below.

Jon Anderson--still races
Howard Estrom--Still races
Jimmy Terini-Beefy Products does not race and was told this past weekend he was done with r/c racing by a freind of his.

Current rules in place havent really changed at all, I do know there are new rules being put together but I think they were holding off to see where the 1s and 2s lipo racing was going to go.

one suggestion to maybe think about is if this was to take off for the summer months esp. have the 2 classes but allow 4 cell 17.5, 4 cell 27 turn and 13.5 1 cell to run together as 1 class. the other class could be spec with either 17.5 1 cell or there current motor battery combo. I for one dont like to see classes mixed but it maybe get the most guys to run together and allow some guys to use what they have over the course of the summer then make the jump for the fall. this could work if this is being billed as a series of guys to get a common date at a track and go racing. no million dollar prizes or crazy points system. just another way to look at it

I agree....was thinking to start the tour in May or So... Maybe a different track every 3 weeks..was was looking to have 2 classes...
1 cell 13.5 (Pro Stock)
1 cell 17.5 ( Stock)
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Im thinking we will have a point series with 1 or 2 drops....2 trophy's at the end...
1 for pro stock...1 for stock....There will be no give-a-ways or door prizes....and I would collect 2 dollars from everyone at the track to buy the trophy's at the end...all other fee's would only be normal weekly entry fee for that track...I will try to get a deal in which family racers (father/son..father/daughter ect) can get a few bucks off on the entry fee to keep this affordable and get more people to keep showing up...My goal is to
have a core bunch of racers to travel and meet at various tracks and race together during the light months to keep oval alive and have some momentum for the fall when the season starts...
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Im am really like the 17.5 1 cell idea because wont have to buy spec batteries then throw them away when the series is over.....it will make the transition easier for lipo...
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Rules....
I think we can use the SKOR rules as a guidline...Height...wheelbase ect. but dont want to get so serious im out there with a machinists dial caliper to check how wide the front bumper is...I do this for fun and have been known to walk into a track at 5:30 AM drinking Bud Light and eating Ring Dings......what do you guys think?

you eat ring dings i would have never guessed that, my diet requires coors light though

Yes....I likem Ring Dings!

Rick I think 17.5 /27 turn 4cell would be fine and let them run what ever batters the guys have 38 or 46 for one class. Then make a class for lipo for the guys. Then we can at least run the batters we already have with having to go buy new. The father /son deal would be good thing to.

Ill have a diablo sandwitch and a dr pepper instead..........
And thank you nice lady.

This is a GREAT idea, Keep us informed as we can offer two tracks to race at. Our new Mass Track would be a blast for the 1cell cars, In my opinion.
One thing to keep in mind about an earlier post Trinity is no longer going to be having the Spec packs available(4cell Nicad). This brings us to changing our spec class at the CT location as well, We're thinking the 17.5/1cell. Testing to be done soon. Anything we can do at Turn 4 to help makew this happen just say the word.

I'm also all for 13.5 1 cell to make it's debut in the sk's on the tour this summer. I know for one I'm pretty excited hearing the talk of this. I already have disposed of my nimh packs and am fully lipo. Let's go racing, where's the schedule already? The post was made what 3 days ago! I'm definetly game to finally try some new tracks this summer when I actually have time to go somewhere!

On a seperate note, Mike I'd be more than happy to help the testing of 17.5 single cell anyway I can. Let me know.

This is a GREAT idea, Keep us informed as we can offer two tracks to race at. Our new Mass Track would be a blast for the 1cell cars, In my opinion.
One thing to keep in mind about an earlier post Trinity is no longer going to be having the Spec packs available(4cell Nicad). This brings us to changing our spec class at the CT location as well, We're thinking the 17.5/1cell. Testing to be done soon. Anything we can do at Turn 4 to help makew this happen just say the word.

Mike what do you think about doing 13.5 1 cell SK at your track? I see RCH is already combining the 17.5 4cell and 13.5 1 cell cars together.

geez rick look at what you started, now your under the gun to get it together. i might have to put a sk car together just to be able to do some racing this summer

i would be insterested in13.5 1cell ( as long as it doesen' interfear with my golf game)

i would be insterested in13.5 1cell ( as long as it doesen' interfear with my golf game)

oh please...lol theres a reason why your AMAIN PELICANE,,, hahaha see ya at madness

i hope your golf game is better then your racing game. hehehe

yea see and I was being nice about it, lol Nice MIKE!!! lmao..

I think this is a great idea,maybe this is what we need to boost oval racing.:thumbsup:

i do golf better than i set up a race car mike

Bill we will have to golf with jim this spring. any time is good for me.

Hey Guys...Looking to have a schedule in Place by the end of april....well see if we can make this happen.......Lets see how many S/K's we can get at Enfield for the NEOT

How about single cell 17.5 for spec class. the spec packs are virtually impossible to get. Almost everyone has a 17.5. runthat and the 13.5 single cell lipo.Have any of you tried the 17.5 with a single cell.DanHay Dan up at maximus we had a car go out 17.5 1 cell with 13.5 1 cell( he forgot to change his motor :rolleyes:) and it was about 5 laps slower (pan car) but you see it is a bit slower. Hope this helps for a spec class in s/k. :thumbsup: Anthony

My guess is that a properly geared 17.5 1 cell and a properly geared 13.5 1 cell in the same car with the same driver will only be about 2 to3 laps apart.

Hay Dan up at maximus we had a car go out 17.5 1 cell with 13.5 1 cell( he forgot to change his motor :rolleyes:) and it was about 5 laps slower (pan car) but you see it is a bit slower. Hope this helps for a spec class in s/k. :thumbsup: Anthony

That guy was me...:thumbsup:

Rick hopefully this works out might be a nice little diversion from the typical racing that alot of us do, if you need any help with it let me know.

Yeah Mike....Im sure Ill be asking for some help...Ill talk to you more at the NEOT race in Enfield...You and Nick Going?...Maybe you can take a few laps with my 13,5 1 cell car and see how it is...

not sure, its is not looking good. Nick has to work and i have a football clinic that starts Thursday night and runs thru saturday morning. with the 4 pm start we would only get like 15 minutes of practice. but if something changes i will let you know

I would be in for 17.5 and or 13.5 1 cell with my KSKT dual SK. I now have only lipo stuff. I sold off all my Nimh subc stuff, after the Winterblast at Turn4. The biggest class at the blast was 13.5 1 cell pan car.(30 plus! ) I Ran my pan car in the 17.5 4cell with only six entries what does that tell you!! I personaly have had enough of the cost, discharging, charging, cycle, numbers matching, crap. Lipo all the way. Nimh is on the outs for racing. And even the manufactures Know this. Trinity stopped making spec packs. Im willing to bet they will start making Lipo 1 cells even lipos all together. We went through all this before. 6cell to 4cell, 3800 to 4200, 4200 to 4600 ,sk solid to tplate and brushed to brushless. change is nothing new. And it almost always seemed to happen during the race season. And why????? Because thats when it was tryed and tested. It just needs to be made. Change helps this hobby stay alive. Keeps everyone on their toes. So change is Good! Especially when its potentially going to keep the cost down. A tour would be a great start to the change. Racers and tracks could see how it all works out. With results and racer turn out.

just my 2cents.

Mike
I too would help out with testing at Turn4 anyway I can.
Just let me know How I can help.
Tim

Alright Guys....Looking for a headcount before I start approaching some tracks so I can tell them more or less what to expect...Looking to Do the Sat, Night Deal..maybe 7:30Pm Start....
I am asking everyone who would be interested PM me so I can List the roster....

So Far we have
1. Rick Rezendes
2. Nick Doroz
3. Mike Mcdermot
4. Clayton Jennings....
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The classes will be 13.5 1 cell
17.5 1 cell (spec)
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No one who shows up will be turned away...Again this is for fun..we will mix you in classes if you show up with brushed stuff....and their is enough for a heat we will put you in...if not enought for a heat..we will mix you in...
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Lets see what kind of numbers we can get..........

I might make one or two not even sure but you have my support.I am working on my house this summer and we are planning on right now puting either a concrete or asphalt track on my property depending on what the town says about the concrete. Eitherway there will be a track at my house to either run SK cars or Dirt oval, my 1/18th track is not cutting it anymore lol.

holy crap..a track out the house...Maybe the tour will visit Groton Ct.....heheheh

well we(the montville group) have missed a home track for the past year and its time we do something, I cant see opening a place due to the economy, too many risks, however something at my house, wont cost me anything but inital setup and thats about it, I already have a transponder system from my indoor 1/18th scale track, where it will be located will be in shade and we will run power to the other end of the property. Not sure if we will open to the world but def the local guys. we will play it by ear...lol

I say we emtpy the garage and put in a nice size 1/18 scale track and use the basement for the pits... There is nothing like A/C and racing on a hot summer day.

I vote for for dirt oval CMON

Dirt oval would be nice

alright guys...need a head count....who's in?

Rick if you come to t4 for the enduro race im in

Ill be there for the Sizzler ken....hows that

Rick are you just going to run lipos or you going to let 4 cell run also.

I dont know if we will be running anything....4-5 guys only responded......I would mix them up if needed...Hoping we can do so me parking lot racing soon locally

Hey Jim....I think all your packs are dead by know...have you been charging or have they just been sitting........I got a bunch of 4 cells I have been charging...let me know if you need them