We had a good turn out for the comp tonight. Erv laid out a course that give everyone a headache, except Jim B that won that comp without a dig unit on his AX10. Good job Jim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. The scores will be posted in another thread shortly.

For all that don't know. The Sunday comps start at 1:00pm. Please show up and be prepared to put your crawler on the rocks before 1:00pm. Doors open at 11:00am

So being the first weekend of the month this would be the weekend for our monthly club meeting, correct? I have a couple topics I'd like to discuss for upcoming comps and the 1.9 course. Anyone seen or heard from Shawn?

So being the first weekend of the month this would be the weekend for our monthly club meeting, correct? I have a couple topics I'd like to discuss for upcoming comps and the 1.9 course. Anyone seen or heard from Shawn?
HE RAN OFF WITH THE $$$$ HAHAHAHA

no comment............

Actually the course was insanely brutal. Your right it didn't have 90 degree corners, it had 180 degree corners. The one that killed mine was also on a 70 degree side hill. A wheel got wedge in a hole and pop goes the Cvd cup, but I didn't see you there so whatever.

He won it without a DIG because there probably wasnt 90deg turns everywhere. I think it needs to be run with not so many gates. other tracks i've looked at online dont have as many gates. which makes it easyer for the DIGless people. I'm still not gonna run one,. but would like to run a comp with some equal oponents. I'm just running with originality.

Havent made it up there lately, for one,.. because of that, and two,.. No work lately which means no money to come up there!

Just the opposite is true. The course that Jim B won on was the hardest course we have run to date!!!!!!!!!!!!

The courses are laid out to be challenging not easy. If the courses are to easy people running 2.2 modified crawlers with dig units will get board. And at this point, the guys with dig units, out number the guys without digs two to one.

If you don't want to run against people with dig on challenging courses, then start a stock class, and design and layout some of your own courses. If you had been around lately, you would know that the club has already been discussing that topic.

If you don't want to run against people with dig on challenging courses, then start a stock class, and design and layout some of your own courses. If you had been around lately, you would know that the club has already been discussing that topic.

That is exactly what one of the topics I was going to bring up in our meeting this weekend is going to be.

Ok, so here's a quick layout I did over lunch for the 1.9 layout I'm designing. It's amazing what you can do with 30 minutes of time and Acad 2006.
http://i318.photobucket.com/albums/mm415/Altered_Images/RC%20Crawlers/19CourseLayout.jpg

That looks cool. When does construction start.

I sent you a PM

I think someone commented that with Andy in charge of construction, the building will fall down around the course before the course falls down.

Nicely done. Looking forward to getting it up and running.

Again, we have lots of lumber (2x4, landscape timers and OSB) to use in the construction. Get me a list of what you need when you have it figured out and I will round it up.

I was thinking construction would start possibly this Thursday evening. I'll let you guys know by Wed. for sure.

I'll have to get some more details worked out but we'll certainly need 2x4's, OSB sheets for the elevated framework and perimeter walls, and some 1x lumber for rock supports. I'll check out the big orange box for some chicken wire and burlap for the "washed out riverbed" area. I also have a 3"-4" diameter 10' long tree limb that fell out of one of the tree's in my backyard we could use as well.

Just a reminder, Our meeting for this month will be this Sunday at 1:00pm. We will be going over the course layout for the outdoor course and taking suggestions.

As everyone can see in some of the earlier posts. Andy aka 02CooperS is heading up the building of the 1.9 course. If you have input on the obstacles that will be going into that course, or the outdoor course. You need to be at the meeting.

We will also be discussing, the possibility of a stock 2.2 class, for the guys just getting started in rock crawling. Someone will have to step up to the plate and take charge, if they want this class to take off. If you are interested in a stock 2.2 class you need to be at the meeting.

As of late, I have been the only member of the course crew that has been maintaining the course. In the meeting this week I will be nominating Andy and Erv to fill the two open positions. Both nominees are at BFG multiple times a week crawling on the rocks, and doing forms of maintenance already. If anyone has any objections, you need to show up to the meeting.

Sorry I've been a no-show lately.....money is stupid tight untill spring breaks, then I can pick up a few hours in a bike shop.

I should be able to swing a few rockraces this summer, if that's still on the menu.

I should be available to assist with the 1.9 course.....helping doesn't cost money :thumbsup: FYI I am nursing an elbow injury (swell-bow) is what I'm calling it...so I will not be bringing my 'A' game.

If you had been around lately, you would know that the club has already been discussing that topic.

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup:

Sorry I've been a no-show lately.....money is stupid tight untill spring breaks, then I can pick up a few hours in a bike shop.

I should be able to swing a few rockraces this summer, if that's still on the menu.

I should be available to assist with the 1.9 course.....helping doesn't cost money :thumbsup: FYI I am nursing an elbow injury (swell-bow) is what I'm calling it...so I will not be bringing my 'A' game.

The rock racing is still on. We still need someone to head up the course layout and construction, if you are interested in the position.

I will have my hands full with the outdoor crawling course.

If you want to be the lead person for that, come to the meeting this Sunday.

WOW! what a first page for a new thread.
I don't know what to say. I'm at a loss for words.LOL

Ok, it looks like we're on for Thursday night construction. I'll be there around 5pm. It looks like most of the building materials will be available for us from John. I'll bring my circular saw and jig saw, and I still need to hit the big orange box for the burlap. They have 36"x24' rolls for $11.

Hey Andy, I found a phone number for Shawn.

I sent you a pm.

no comment.................

thats ok,....i'm gonna make a few trips of my own to the gravel co. to get some rocks to add to what i allready have at my house. Then i will advertise my course. Which will have a rock racing course arround the perimeter of a rock pile to crawl on in the middle. A free for all running course.

Brian - I do plan on using my own vehicle to bring rock in for the CLUB's 1.9 course. I just have to get the 400lbs of sandbags out of the bed of my truck first however. :thumbsup: I don't know why you feel the need to personally attack everyone who posts something on here. We are looking for everyone's input on the 1.9 course. If you feel like some major injustice has been dealt to you I think your mistaken. I love the 2.2 course the way it is and no one else has said anything to the otherwise. You're jumping to conclusions about a sentence or two posted on here based on your biased opinions. I wish you all the luck with your current and future ventures.:wave:

Andy

My god,..I think Shane got his point accross,..LMAO. Maybe the ones who dont have DIGs havent showed up are tired of listening to the people with DIGs and a big head.

And as far as me not being there to give imput,.. I helped design most of that 2.2 course

I am not sure what you are talking about. I have made no attempt to make a point, about anything.

As Far as people not showing up because of dig units. Pretty much everyone has a dig unit now. There are only four that don't have one. One of the four is Jim B. And he just beat five guys that did have dig units.


Yes, you give your input on the design of the 2.2 course, and it was appreciated. But you have been absent for about a month now. And a lot can transpire in that amount of time. If you want to have any type of say in anything, you have to at least show up.

Furthermore it did nothing to help your position on your anti dig unit feelings, by getting on Hobby talk and complaining to no end about dig units. And then say nothing about the topic at club meetings or get togethers.

Instead of putting all of your frustrations, into complaining about dig units on hobby talk. Maybe you could have put that energy, into laying the ground work for some kind of stock 2.2 class. And have given assistance to people just starting out in rock crawling.

Oh and SHANE.......i'll get with you on that servo i bought from you here soon.

You can just mail it to me. I sent you a pm

If anyone is interested, the Erv and myself will be at BFG, tonight doing some crawling about 5:30pm to close.

If anyone is interested, the Erv and myself will be at BFG, tonight doing some crawling about 5:30pm to close.
that's right, we bad!:cool:

At this point I would appreciate it if everyone would just ignore Zman and any comments that he may choose to make.

Had a blast on the pile again, found some new lines.
New body is vary different but I like it. Its more scale
looking. Much fun monkey, see you guys about 5:00pm.

oh yah no child, sorry:cool:

Had a blast on the pile again, found some new lines.
New body is vary different but I like it. Its more scale
looking. Much fun monkey, see you guys about 5:00pm.

oh yah no child, sorry:cool:

Sounds good Erv. See you tonight

Thank you Schane, you blew my cover I did run off with the money!!! LOL. No seriously life has been tight and I have been working way too much for nothing. I am still in the game but my head is not right now. We had a death in the family last night and I will be in Detroit Sunday and Monday for the funeral. As for the club I am still down with my responsibilities. I see that the bickering has started again. That really doesnt surprise me I figured that it would have been a lot sooner. Nate I still have your pics and they are still safe!!! I am going to try and get down there tonight for a quick minute before I head out to Detroit to get caught up on everything that is going on. Like I said sorry that I have been AWOL, just too much s#%& going down right now.

The arguing is at an end. Brian will no longer be with us from this point on.

The arguing is at an end. Brian will no longer be with us from this point on.

So that means that I get to take on the cause of the DIGless ones?
JK
Figured I havent posted lately so I have to add my two cents
:thumbsup:

Good to see your still around Shawn. Sorry to hear about the death in the family. We'll keep you posted with meeting minutes of all the happenings from this weekend.

Oh and just to make sure it wasn't a fart in the breeze Schane. I don't mind filling in one of the maintenance crew spots for the club. I figured I had automatically done that by volunteering to take the lead on the 1.9 course.

Shawn, if you are interested. There has been talk of starting a stock/non dig unit 2.2 class, for guys that want to comp against others without dig units.

I think it would also do alot to benefit the club to form a stock class. Because when guys go out and buy a stock AX10, and then show up at the club, I think they get a little discouraged when they see the courses we run on, and find out that they will have to spend alot more money to successfully compete, against the heavily modified crawlers, that some of the guys run.

Shawn, if you are interested. There has been talk of starting a stock/non dig unit 2.2 class, for guys that want to comp against others without dig units.

I think it would also do alot to benefit the club to form a stock class. Because when guys go out and buy a stock AX10, and then show up at the club, I think they get a little discouraged when they see the courses we run on, and find out that they will have to spend alot more money to successfully compete, against the heavily modified crawlers, that some of the guys run.

I am down with that but I am eventually going to end up getting a DIG unit. Besides I like getting my truck beat up on by all you rich guys with DIG. LOL
:thumbsup:

DIGS ARE FOR CHEATERS I CANT RUN WITH YOU GUYS IF YOU HAVE DIGS IM GONNA TELL MY MOM IF YOU GUESS DONT GET THEM DIGS OUT OF YOUR RIGS ASAP HAHAHAHAH NO BUT FOR REAL erv and shane your rides are nicccccccccce had some fun with em last night you guys gonna have to hook mine up once i get mine rollin...

I am down with that but I am eventually going to end up getting a DIG unit. Besides I like getting my truck beat up on by all you rich guys with DIG. LOL
:thumbsup:

damn i bet you ran off with the money good job shawn.. now i lost the bet damn you:thumbsup:

I am down with that but I am eventually going to end up getting a DIG unit. Besides I like getting my truck beat up on by all you rich guys with DIG. LOL
:thumbsup:

What I would like to do is have someone take control/be in charge of a stock class, to welcome new people into the club, and not scare the crap out of them by putting them in comps, with a bunch of pimped out crawlers. You would be more like an ambassador for battle front rock crawlers more than anything.

When you decide to upgrade your crawler, go ahead and recruit a replacement for yourself, so that the club will always have someone to run the stock class, and also have someone to assist people that are just starting out.

The idea with the stock class, is to get more people to come out and join us, with out scaring them away after one comp.

Got a great start tonight, got the forms built. Just needs rocks
and some man made, heavy duty burlap and quickset terrain
sections. Should be pretty sweet thanks to andy an schane
for there time and equipment. great job! :thumbsup:

Thanks for your help too Erv. I'll bring some 1x trim and the burlap with me next time so we can get a little closer to being done.

I nominate XXX for the club ambassador role, if he can still squeeze into his outfit!

http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/attachment.php?attachmentid=62517&d=1215570501

Thanks for your help too Erv. I'll bring some 1x trim and the burlap with me next time so we can get a little closer to being done.

I nominate XXX for the club ambassador role, if he can still squeeze into his outfit!

http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/attachment.php?attachmentid=62517&d=1215570501

oh man its on now bean dip:thumbsup:

bean dip does this entitle me to free paint jobs as the ambassador??

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not even a slash guy would try to pull that outfit off but damn XXX it fits you. lol

WyldWeazel and myself will be doing some running on the rocks tonight, around 7:00pm if anyone wants to join us.

WyldWeazel and myself will be doing some running on the rocks tonight, around 7:00pm if anyone wants to join us.

Yea... what he said! LOL.

Yea... what he said! LOL.Me too,
yea what they said.

ps no kid.

Keith - I'll have your buggy body with my tonight if you want to stop by and pick it up.

I'll be there around 6:30 or so

http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/attachment.php?attachmentid=62517&d=1215570501

OMG, thats just wrong.

Please chime in on this topic......

First we need a name for the new class, I feel that 'stock 2.2' is not an option, because when a crawler hits the market with dig as a stock item, that class name will no longer be valid for our intentions. I would also like to avoid beginner and novice to allow people to continue to compete in this class without feeling forced to "move up".

Options: 2.2 Limited(2.2LTD), 2.2 Basic(2.2B), Sport 2.2, Sportsman 2.2, Restricted 2.2, .....vote on those OR suggest better....:rolleyes: My vote is for 2.2B...just for the record.

Rules, to keep this simple I sugest the following......

Class vehicles shall conform to USRCRCA rules for 2.2 class concerning all things having to do with physical size limitations; wheel, tire, body, chassis, wheelbase etc.
Class vehicles shall comform to USRCRCA rules for 1.9 class concerning driveline, suspension, and electronics restrictions.
Competition course setups and scoring shall conform with USRCRCA 2.2 class rules.

SO.....a 2.2 crawler with a single motor, shaft drive, front wheel steering and no dig. Battery voltage restricted to a nominal 8.4v (7-cells or 2-cell lipoly). Radio use limited to two channels (actually used) for control (throttle and steering) .

2.2 Limited works for me.

I'm not really in favor of the battery rule however. A 3S Lipo is pretty much the norm for the 2.2 class. The extra power and wheel speed are a must with the 2.2 rigs. Besides a 3S lipo will only run you about $35.

I like 2.2 Limited as well. I will leave the rest of the details to the guys actually doing the crawling.

Ok, Here are my thoughts. I like 2.2B class, for a name. My thought is if we name the "stock" guys LTD, the other class would have to be XLT. HAHA. Actually I just think it simply explains the class.

I agree with Nate, about the rules. I like the scope it covers. On the subject of battery, I have been using a 6 cell NIMH for over a year. The only reason I am going to a 3S lipo is...

1.) I have a free one that I won as a door prize.
2.) Because it is 3S I guess it's time to upgrade to bigger than a 2S.
3.) My two packs are finally giving up the ghost, after a hard year of use.

That is my 2 cents. :thumbsup:

Personally I think anything we can do to help fan the fire of rock crawling is a plus. We need to get more people to join us, and find out how fun this can truelly be. I think everyone in the RC industry finds it difficult NOT to upgrade eventually. (oh shiny!)

Take Care.

Jim (Aka WyldWeazel) Schreiber

I like 2.2 limited as well. I don't think there should be a two cell limit on lipo's though. Because if and when guys want to move up in classes, they will probably have to buy new batteries to do so.

But what really needs to happen, is to get all the guys together that will be running in that class together, and have a vote on the matter. And have the guys that will not be running in that class stand back and take their respectful place as a spectator and let the 2.2 limited guys figure it out.

Just my 2 pennies :thumbsup: