Now that is a good comment on the battery purchase. Nothing is more frustrating then buying a "good" item, and finding out 2 months later that you need to upgrade. I know personally I have done this many times.:rolleyes:

I also agree that this needs to be discussed between the LTD guys.

Tata...

Jim S.



I like 2.2 limited as well. I don't think there should be a two cell limit on lipo's though. Because if and when guys want to move up in classes, they will probably have to buy new batteries to do so.

But what really needs to happen, is to get all the guys together that will be running in that class together, and have a vote on the matter. And have the guys that will not be running in that class stand back and take their respectful place as a spectator and let the 2.2 limited guys figure it out.

Just my 2 pennies :thumbsup:

Tonight's comp went about as well as a train wreck!

In our next comp we will be using time constraints, and pointing out. We will also be using less gates per course, in the hope of being able to run multiple courses per comp. In the past we have not used these limitations. But as our ranks grow we need to keep the crawlers moving at a steady pace through the coarse. So that everyone has fun. And the down time is kept to a minimum.

If there are any objections please post your thoughts.

For anyone that is interested, the comp scores for tonight have been posted in the b.f.r.c. thread.

Thanks for the feed back guys.....battery voltage restriction is definitely open to debate. The idea behind the battery restriction is to level the playing field for those who are using nimh/nicad packs....wheel speed is a powerfull weapon. I can definetly see the arguement if those moving up feel they need a higher voltage pack.:confused: maybe we will just have to work it out later, based on actual participation(or complaining:rolleyes:).
Thanks for having the discression to not force your opinions on a class you will not be competing in.

If you are planning to participate in this new class please make your opinion about the battery restriction known.

As far as naming the division...2.2B and 2.2 Limited seem to be the leaders.
I prefer 2.2B mainly because its faster to jot on a score sheet:thumbsup: anybody else with me on that?


Any additional comments are still welcome.....rules are always easier to change when they are stilll being written

Glad to see we will be reducing the next courses. I don't think we should run more than 6-8 gates per course, and keep with the 5 minute max time limits. Then we could get a chance to run 3-4 runs per day and have eliminations or seeding for the final course with the top 4 rigs. I'm not willing to make a dedicated effort at this if I only get one run over a 5 hour time frame. Is there also a reason to make the courses as difficult as they have been? I'm up for a challenge as much as the next guy, but taking three 10pt repositions and another 2 5pt ones not even halfway though the course is beyond frustrating.

Glad to see we will be reducing the next courses. I don't think we should run more than 6-8 gates per course, and keep with the 5 minute max time limits. Then we could get a chance to run 3-4 runs per day and have eliminations or seeding for the final course with the top 4 rigs. I'm not willing to make a dedicated effort at this if I only get one run over a 5 hour time frame. Is there also a reason to make the courses as difficult as they have been? I'm up for a challenge as much as the next guy, but taking three 10pt repositions and another 2 5pt ones not even halfway though the course is beyond frustrating.

I feel your pain, I had three rollover 5 pointers, two repositions and hit four gates. I was the last to run on the course. So I did not notice early on that the course had significantly changed in some key locations.

As for the course layout being to hard. It was very similar to many of the courses we had run in past comps. And we usually get two or three runs in on Sun comps.

I like your idea of having short elimination rounds. Maybe try and do three five gate runs and have a ten gate final??

Andy I sent you a PM

Erv - I sent you a PM

I think USRCCA rules(Recommended Course Design) section 4, is a good guideline for are course layouts. I like the idea of less main course gates(3 to 10)and a bonus and alternate gate, per round.
We should be able fit something like that on the pile we have now, if we can get 20 + gates now on some of the bigger layouts we already use.
I'm all for going slow. But 1 run in 5 hrs. maybe that's to slow.

Just a heads up to everyone. Schane, Erv and myself will be closing the course on Friday night to do some maintenance. So there will be no open practice on Friday night.

I'll also sit down this week and get some shorter courses on paper for us to try out this weekend.

This has probably been thought of, but just in case......why not keep the course layouts you have worked so hard on, and just run them in sections.
Just pick gate (or two) out of the middle somewhere and replace it with a start/stop gate.

Another thought....using chalk to mark around the comp gate positions.
We could erase it with a damp stiff brush later in the week before the next comp.
That might also let newbes get better practice with some the gate positions marked.

Great idea with the chalk Nate.
It will also help with fallen and knocked out of place
gate markers during runs.
Not much to read sense Zman got the axe, oh well
see you on the pile!

no comment...........:wave:

I know I'm not a member of the crawlers club, but thought I'd say that the 1.9" course is looking good so far!

Great idea with the chalk Nate.
It will also help with fallen and knocked out of place
gate markers during runs.
Not much to read sense Zman got the axe, oh well
see you on the pile!

i guess i can start some contraversie if needed:thumbsup:

We don't need any controversy from the pimp squad.
You just need to get a 2.2 rig and there will be plenty
of controversy when you hit the pile.
And more to read on this thread I hope. :confused:

We don't need any controversy from the pimp squad.
You just need to get a 2.2 rig and there will be plenty
of controversy when you hit the pile.
And more to read on this thread I hope. :confused:

can always phototshop people i heard weazel say hes good at it i seen bobs new 1.9 today nice lookin rig one day i may get one but id like to get my 2.2 first:rolleyes:

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k55/koolaid1_02/Picture020.jpg

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k55/koolaid1_02/Picture022.jpg

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k55/koolaid1_02/Picture019.jpg

by looking at it does it look like axail parts?? just curiouse on what i will need this is a ruff draft of my rig the dude said:thumbsup:

Just from the pics, I'd say the tires,beadlocks and axles are all Axial.
The tranny is hard to see, but its not hpi, thats good though.
Because you dont want your motor weight up high, other than that
it looks pretty solid. Shocks no clue? :confused:

Transmission looks like it's from a Stampede. They are pretty bulletproof if he replaced all the internals with metal gears. Hooking up a dig might be a little difficult however. Uh oh I said the "D" word, shame on me. If it hasn't been build yet you could always ask him to drill the bottom plate to accept the Axial transmission, or just put one in. Other than that it looks pretty sweet.

Did you keep any of the radio equipment from the Super? If not a Tekin FXr w/55t motor combo Stormer hobbies has for $100. You'll need a separate Bec as well (Castle $30), I really like the Hitec servo I have (HS7955TG, $100) and battery wise I wouldn't get anything less than a 1500mah 3S Lipo. I had Rider's order me the Great Planes electricfly one for $35.

Transmission looks like it's from a Stampede. They are pretty bulletproof if he replaced all the internals with metal gears. Hooking up a dig might be a little difficult however. Uh oh I said the "D" word, shame on me. If it hasn't been build yet you could always ask him to drill the bottom plate to accept the Axial transmission, or just put one in. Other than that it looks pretty sweet.

Did you keep any of the radio equipment from the Super? If not a Tekin FXr w/55t motor combo Stormer hobbies has for $100. You'll need a separate Bec as well (Castle $30), I really like the Hitec servo I have (HS7955TG, $100) and battery wise I wouldn't get anything less than a 1500mah 3S Lipo. I had Rider's order me the Great Planes electricfly one for $35.

i looked at stormer beandip i didnt see any combos at all except brushless if you got a minute link it up..i have 2 servos still 2 motors,receiver,i have an ollllllllllld rooster tht big bastard hahha i was gonn ause for time bein but if i can get a combo for a hundy ill buy it up..:thumbsup:

Sorry I haven't posted in awhile... I have been busy with some photoshop work, and working on my crawler.

Hey Erv... guess what... Gatekeeper frames don't fit with BTA steering real well. DOH! :rolleyes:

See you all Sunday. (hopefully)

Here's the Link.
https://www.ssl-stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/seekpart.pl?src=ns&pn=TEKTT2102

It's backordered right now. But you could always opt for the Combo w/ the 45t motor since you already have 2 55t motors. You basically get a brand new motor for $5 over the price of just the Esc.

FX-R w/ 45t motor
https://www.ssl-stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/seekpart.pl?src=ns&pn=TEKTT2104

Ok, now I am serious jealous! Not too shabby for a temporary course for the weekend.
http://www.rccrawler.com/omaha09.html

I'll be bringing some supplies in tonight to work on the 1.9 course along with the scheduled maintenance on the 2.2 course.

Remember, no practice on the rock pile tonight. Maintenance and construction only.

I'll be there about 11:30 Bringing my son.:thumbsup:

After much work, and excitement about today's competition... I won't be there. My wife drop the tranny in her car last night. :mad: I have to repair that or start walking to work. Good luck today guys. Please let me know how things go.

Jim S.

Another fun day crawling. Shorter layouts worked great. Got to run 4 different layouts, 3 shorter and one long. Thanks to the people who made it happen.

I am so glad that it went well. I am so sorry I missed it.

How many people crawled?

Good news, I think I found the problem with the wifey's car. It was the transmission vacuum modulator. Bad news... the only part store open on Sunday afternoon doesn't carry that item. Doh!

Take care guys. I look forward to seeing the scores.

I think we ended up with 8 people/ 9 crawlers?...The new format allowed more people to run more often. Lots more fun :thumbsup: Everyone running through all three courses took about 4 hours. Scores are going to be posted by TDevil [john] may be mid week before he finds time. All scores from all runs will be posted....makes for more interesting reading.

Had a excellent time today, one of the best ones so far!
Good to see more guys show up, made for a good day on
the(ROCK)pile!:cool:

Results from this past Sunday are posted. I just put it in the format that was on the board. We may wish to adjust/clarify, but figured it is a good start.

Might be interesting to include how many gates in the course and how many gates had been completed when Timed Out or Pointed Out.

Wow, that was very interesting. It looks like the course was fun and challenging. I sure wish there were some pictures of the runs. Actually I REALLY wish I could have been there.

Jim S.

John I like the format you used for posting the scores.
Great job,you are the man.:thumbsup:

I need feedback! How does this look for our flyer for the up coming competition. I know the date is right, but I may have the cost wrong and starting time. I am also open to any suggestions to verbage changes. :)

If we like, I will send John the "big" file. ;)

Jim

I like the lower part, but the wooden sign just isn't bold
enough to top a flier. Don't get me wrong its a nice sign
and all, but some bigger, bolder
lettering would fill in the upper portion of the flier better.
Just my 1/2 cent.:cool:

Hey guys looked like I missed a lot at the last meeting!! Anybody want to fill me in on what is going on?

A quick summary of the events of the past two weekends are as follows Shawn.

- A 2.2 Limited class is being considered if enough interest is had for it. It would consist of any 2.2 vehicle that does not have a dig function, or one that does but had been disabled. Pretty much a class for the guys just starting out or guys who feel digs aren't required to win.

- The courses are going to be shorter (5-7 gates) and we will run three "qualifying" courses with the top 4-5 guys going for the overall win in the longer (8-10 gates) "main event" course. Everyone can participate in the longer run, but only the qualified rigs will have a chance for the win. Each course will have a set time limit of 1 minuter per gate, plus 2 minutes for start and finish gate. So a 5 gate course will have a limit of 7 minutes.

- Along with the qualifying the order you put your name on the sign up sheet is the order you will run. If you are not ready at the time your name is called (within reason) you will receive a 50pt DNS penalty for that course.

- This Saturday will be the rock gathering day for the 1.9 course (if the landscape place is open). Any help would be appreciated. We figure it will only take 2-3 truck loads with my truck. We'll test the bed capacity of the Dakota this weekend. Good thing I opted for the V8 when I bought it!

- We are looking at an April sometime start for construction of the outdoor course which we're looking at having 30+ tons of rock delivered.

- And this April 12th will be our first big comp.

- And a topic we covered this past Sunday is maintenance of the rock pile. Fridays are being selected as the only day any modifications to the pile will be made and there must be an agreed upon problem with a certain area/obstacle with at least two members of the maintenance crew. Anyone is open to suggest a change. Then several rigs will run the area and determine if a change is needed.

I think that covers everything.

Nice job Andy. Concise and to the point!!!!

I like the lower part, but the wooden sign just isn't bold
enough to top a flier. Don't get me wrong its a nice sign
and all, but some bigger, bolder
lettering would fill in the upper portion of the flier better.
Just my 1/2 cent.:cool:


I agree, Bold letters instead of the wood sign would look better....beyond that good to go! If we really want the wood sign on the flyer...just park a truck in front of it:thumbsup: and use that image on the lower part.

So to clarify... Friday nights is now off limit to the rock pile for maintenance? I just want to make sure that it is nice and clear.

Jim S.

I agree, Bold letters instead of the wood sign would look better....beyond that good to go! If we really want the wood sign on the flyer...just park a truck in front of it:thumbsup: and use that image on the lower part.

I will have another version up shortly. :) Great suggestions Nate and Erv.

Here is my next rendition. Let me know what you think.

I need feedback! How does this look for our flyer for the up coming competition. I know the date is right, but I may have the cost wrong and starting time. I am also open to any suggestions to verbage changes. :)

If we like, I will send John the "big" file. ;)

Jim

JUST A THOUGHT WE SHOULD GET SOME RIGS CRAWLING OVER NUDE CHIX THIS WOULD BRING IN THE CROWDS :thumbsup: MY RIG IS ON THE WAY :thumbsup:

So to clarify... Friday nights is now off limit to the rock pile for maintenance? I just want to make sure that it is nice and clear.

Jim S.

No, Fri nights are open practice as usual along with maintenance to get ready for Sun comp. If it is determined that there is a problem with the course during Fri night practice maintenance will be done then.

My self and Andy will be there Fri. I think Erv will also be there. You should come out.

Here is my next rendition. Let me know what you think. Know thats what I'm talking a bout.
That looks so much better and we kept the sweet sign.
Great job weazel UROC. ha! ha! get it.:wave:

JUST A THOUGHT WE SHOULD GET SOME RIGS CRAWLING OVER NUDE CHIX THIS WOULD BRING IN THE CROWDS :thumbsup: MY RIG IS ON THE WAY :thumbsup:Who you gunna get?you in a wig,Yeah! that'll
rely draw a crowd of :freak:s

Here is my next rendition. Let me know what you think.

I like it. If this is the agreed upon version we should get a thread started on RCCrawler.com as well.

-XXX, Now you're talkin'! Can't wait to see your new rig.

Who you gunna get?you in a wig,Yeah! that'll
rely draw a crowd of :freak:s

I smell a photshop coming!!!

yea... me too... hmmm... does Keith deserve a good body or a bad body... :jest: