Hi Guys.

I thought I would share some images of my current Build,..The Moebius Flying Sub.

Since Alex49xxx has an excellent Blog going, I didn't take as many "ConstructionPics"

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2696/flyingsub10001.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

..For all the Modelers who take six Months to a year Building a kit(Nothing wrong with that), I did not rush this build at all..It just goes together That easily:thumbsup:
Again with all my projects,Research takes up most of my Build time. But again, Having built several Flying Subs in the past(Lunar..etc..)My research was finished.

Ok..In this pic you will see I chose to seal my Flying sub(Not yet, I plan on installing a VoodoFX lighting kit), but have the upper docking ring removeable to view the interior..

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2898/flyingsub10002.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


This next image shows that I Drilled out the solid plastic for the speaker on the rear wall,and installed Photo-Etched Grill. I also scratchbuilt a Small Microphone...

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5058/flyingsub10003.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

..This next pic shows that I removed the Solid Plastic facing of the storage locker under the bunk, and Built the storage area clearly seen in the actual set.I also scratch built the "Brackets" on either side...Also a pole to hang the wet suites was also fabricated..Scratch-Built "air Tanks" and other gear will be seen here shortly

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9199/flyingsub10005.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Here are the controls under the main Viewport..
I have to point out, that I used our very own member Gemini 12's Excellent decal sheet for the two scanners on either side of the main scanner.(I recommend Henry's Decal sheet for those not wanting to piant the floor or any of the interior Details:thumbsup:). I personally prefer to Paint as Much as I can,I enjoy it so.

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/5360/flyingsub10006.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Again this build is still on going..The next big step is the Lighting Kit
Clean up the seams that will be on the viewport area etc..

Kudos to Frank, Dave and their design team on this Model:thumbsup:,Like the other kits, this is really Modeler friendly and a Joy to build

Great work--I'm trying to figure out how to have battery access for the lighting kit--I haven't checked to see whether a 9 volt battery fits through the rear hatch opening or not yet and I just don't want to cut into anything else on this gorgeous model...

Great work--I'm trying to figure out how to have battery access for the lighting kit--I haven't checked to see whether a 9 volt battery fits through the rear hatch opening or not yet and I just don't want to cut into anything else on this gorgeous model...

I thank you Sir!

Yes a 9 volt will fit perfectly through the main Hatch. That is where I plan on Mounting the On/Off Switch as well.(I did the same on my Lunar kit)

Of course, with any of this stuff, there is give and take..You/Me may end up losing some detail in the "Tunnel" area.
Having said that however, I may work it out to where the battery will slide into a Side wall compartment I may build into the Tunnel Wall:freak:

Paul, looks good! And thank you for taking pics! it's more work than folks think to set up shots and I apreciate the work. Is the trim color black? or is it blue? I've seen both, and did my 'lil sub in blue.

I'm thinking Quick-brites for my lighting(magnetic switches)..

Steve

Paul, looks good! And thank you for taking pics! it's more work than folks think to set up shots and I apreciate the work. Is the trim color black? or is it blue? I've seen both, and did my 'lil sub in blue.

I'm thinking Quick-brites for my lighting(magnetic switches)..

Steve

Thanks Steve!

The trim color is in fact Blue. Model Master's "Blue Angel Blue"Airbrushed. As is the interior Floor.
I based it on some info I had acquired:thumbsup:

Beautiful work! It's like you were up in the scaffolding over the full size set, taking pictures. And this is a work that's still in progress???

Looking good!

Many Thanks my Friends:o

Yes, Once I acquire a Light Kit from VoodoFX, I need to seal the "clam Shell Halves" together and Remove the seams that will be around the Viewport.

Also, I have to say this Kit is a Real Beauty, and my Sratch Building Details is no reflection on it.I am just one of those who can't seem to leave well enough alone(LOL)!

High Regards,
BP

Outstanding work so far,my friend!!

Excellent work on your flying sub model beatlepaul!:thumbsup: I hope mine turns out as good.:dude:

I forgot to ask you beatlepaul, What shade of blue did you use to paint the floor and stripes? Did you spray or air brush? And is it easier to paint the stripes first, let dry and then go over the rest of the body with yellow? Thanks!

WOW! Mark nice job on the build, I need to get you some lights.

Working on the FS build up as we speek.

Talk with you soon.
Randy

I forgot to ask you beatlepaul, What shade of blue did you use to paint the floor and stripes? Did you spray or air brush? And is it easier to paint the stripes first, let dry and then go over the rest of the body with yellow? Thanks!

He used Blue Angele Blue,it is in his post above.......As for the stripes,it is easyer to paint the stripes first and then shoot the overall color.alex

BP,

SHEER INSPIRATION! :thumbsup:

- Ben

Gentlemen, I humbly thank you for all your kind words.

But,This kit Is THAT GOOD!!!Aside from the painting and such, Frank, Dave and their design team, Have manufactured A beautiful Kit:thumbsup:

Long Live Moebius:)

Another great job! I like to see added details, because modeling is to be fun, and it is fun to be different.

BP, how are the yellow hulls out of the box ? Can the kit be built with out painting except the blue ? just curious.

Well that is yet again a top job mate. :thumbsup:

Once more it is something to aspire too... :) When I eventually get mine and the the figures from Drew.

Again I say excelent work you have done there. :D

Cheers,

Alec. :wave:

BP, how are the yellow hulls out of the box ? Can the kit be built with out painting except the blue ? just curious.

The answer is yes,the yellow was matched to the miniature used to develope this kit.

I was thinking about using gloss royal blue for the floor and stripes, But i haven't decided yet. Any one else thinking about this shade of blue? Or is it a little to dark. I seem to remember the interior flooring looked about the same shade to me as this color paint.Any flying sub experts recommend another color that matches better?

Ford & GM Engine Blue is what I used,and it matches the mininature color IMO.

Well that is yet again a top job mate. :thumbsup:

Once more it is something to aspire too... :) When I eventually get mine and the the figures from Drew.

Again I say excelent work you have done there. :D

Cheers,

Alec. :wave:


Again I am Humbled Sir:o

I have seen your work my friend and it is top notch :thumbsup:

Iam sure it will surpass mine

Ford & GM Engine Blue is what I used,and it matches the mininature color IMO.
Thanks, Where did you get this, Automotive store, Hardware? I've never seen it at a hobby store.

It is in Testors Model Masters Enamal Line.

I had to go out, While out i found some testors dark blue in spray cans. I think i will go with that choice for the floor, Stripes, Hatch & viewport detailing. By the way, As this is a page about beatlepaul's Flying sub, Let me again say how great your kit looks! Please post more pix when you can,i can't wait to see it after you have installed the lighting kit!:thumbsup:

I had to go out, While out i found some testors dark blue in spray cans. I think i will go with that choice for the floor, Stripes, Hatch & viewport detailing. By the way, As this is a page about beatlepaul's Flying sub, Let me again say how great your kit looks! Please post more pix when you can,i can't wait to see it after you have installed the lighting kit!:thumbsup:


Thank you Sir:o

I'll post more Pics when I get the VoodoFx Lighting Kit from Randy.

The answer is yes,the yellow was matched to the miniature used to develope this kit.

The yellow styrene in the kit is close to the actual color, but if you want an exact match, spray the model with Chrome Yellow, FS13538.

Disclaimer: I can't guarentee the color fidelity of Chrome Yellow, as formulated by various manufacturers of hobby paints, but my chip of yellow gelcoat from one of the studio models is a perfect match for FS13538 in my Fed Std fan deck.

Is the flying sub yellow as a homage to the Beatles Yellow Submarine?

Moebius, how about a Supersized Yellow Submarine kit?
With hatches that open showing John, Paul, George and Ringo?
This model kit will also appeal to Beatles fans!

I liked the MPC kit that had a working propeller.

Yellow Submarine came out in 1968, the Flying Sub was introduced in 1965, so maybe the Beatles were Irwin Allen fans... :)

Yellow Submarine came out in 1968, the Flying Sub was introduced in 1965, so maybe the Beatles were Irwin Allen fans... :)


...In the Town where I was born....Lived a man .Who sailed to Sea..

Yellow Submarine came out in 1968, the Flying Sub was introduced in 1965, so maybe the Beatles were Irwin Allen fans... :)

The actual song, Yellow submarine was released as a single in 1966.I think the flying sub was introduced in 1965, So the Beatles may have actually been fans of the show.While i don't know if the show was broadcast over in the UK, The Beatles may have caught the show in the states while on tour here. I am a major Beatles fan:dude:

Oceanographic research submersibles were being painted a bright orange-yellow for underwater visibility years before either the Flying Sub or the song "Yellow Submarine," so I'm sure it's just a coincidence. Besides, how could anyone fit all their friends and a band aboard the Flying Sub? :confused:

Cool buildup you have going on. Nice looking kit.

All this talk about yellow submarines & The Beatles has me in the mood to crack open a few sam addams & Listen to my recent Ebay prize. A mint first pressing of Sgt. Peppers lonely hearts club band from 1967. Goodnight;):drunk:

Actually Jacques-Yves Cousteau built the SP-350 or Diving Saucer in 1959. It was yellow and made famous before the Seaview.

Mark D

Hey All;

I'm having a blast with mine too. This thing really does just fall together.

Anyway, sorry to add a discordant note, but is it just me or are the bottom fins/skids the right dimensions? In all the photos/screengrabs I've seen, there's none where I see anything that looks like the skids on the bottom of the model. To my eye, the lower fins should almost be flush with the hull, much much smaller than the ones on the model. Does anyone have a photo or screen grab showing these skids on the real filming minis? Since the kit has been thoroughly vetted already and literally no one has mentioned this, I've no choice but to assume it's all in my head....

Anyway, hell of a kit. Giant, wacky lower fins or not

Well, here's at least one miniature with skids:

http://www.cloudster.com/sets&vehicles/FlyingSub/fs24.jpg

I'm just about positive the paint scheme on the Flying Sub was inspired by the Cousteau minisub just as the LIS Space Pod was inspired by the LEM--I think Allen liked to point to real life examples to give his show's designs more authenticity--for as far as that went...

Anyway, sorry to add a discordant note, but is it just me or are the bottom fins/skids the right dimensions? In all the photos/screengrabs I've seen, there's none where I see anything that looks like the skids on the bottom of the model. To my eye, the lower fins should almost be flush with the hull, much much smaller than the ones on the model. Does anyone have a photo or screen grab showing these skids on the real filming minis? Since the kit has been thoroughly vetted already and literally no one has mentioned this, I've no choice but to assume it's all in my head....

Anyway, hell of a kit. Giant, wacky lower fins or not

Since they were handmade, the shapes of the lower fins were different on all three sizes of studio models. I've got 3D laser scans of the 9" and 18" studio models, and the lower fins on the 9" model are much less prominent than those on the 18" model. Two things to consider:

1. Greg Jein pulled castings from the original studio molds of the 9" and 18" models and had them laser-scanned. The Moebius model is based on a scan of the 18-incher. Did Fox's propmakers trim the 18-incher's lower fins after they pulled castings from the molds in the 60s? I don't know.

2. The fins appear much smaller when you paint the dark blue trim along their edges. For an example, see http://cloudster.com/Sets&Vehicles/FlyingSub/fs24.jpg.

Because we're dealing with an Irwin Allen project, where there's a distinct lack of continuity between models, I'd suggest that you find a picture of the lower fins that you like (or use the studio plans, which have been posted at Hobby Talk), and trim the model's fins to match. You can't go wrong!

Gary

That is awesome!

Oceanographic research submersibles were being painted a bright orange-yellow for underwater visibility years before either the Flying Sub or the song "Yellow Submarine," so I'm sure it's just a coincidence. Besides, how could anyone fit all their friends and a band aboard the Flying Sub? :confused:

In the Flying Yellow Submarine of course!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/lanterndude/flying_yellow_submarine.jpg

I think this photo of the 18" miniature shows the accuracy of the larger aft bottom fins fins

I think this photo shows the accuracy of the Moebius FS larger bottom fins, and goes along with what Gary says.

http://www.uncleodiescollectibles.com/img_lib/12398_64409_36.jpg



(Looks like the FS took some serious damage, perhaps from ome of those large spinach monsters.)

In the Flying Yellow Submarine of course!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/lanterndude/flying_yellow_submarine.jpg

I can't believe how fast these third party add-ons are coming out......;)
Very funny and nice work with the photo......:thumbsup:

:freak: Aww...dadgummit!!!! Now that tune is stuck in MY head!!!!! "We all live in a yellow submarine (yippee!), a yellow submarine (hoo hah!), a yellow submarine..." :drunk:

This is what I've been wondering about for years - the different shapes of the FS. In some shots of the FS on screen, the edges of the wing trace a flat line from nose to tail (the red line below). In far fewer shots, the edges of the wing curve upwards, they follow the curve (green below) that this side shot of the 18" shows. If I remember correctly, in-flight shots? This curve also matches the blueprints for the 18". Over on the Cultman site, Brent Gair on the Forbidden Planet saucer build thread shows how he lathed the initial shape for his FS and it's a saucer-ish shape like the Jupiter 2.
Now the difference in the ends of the wingtips of the FS isn't camera angle or lens or water distortion. Some of the miniatures definitely had this curve and some wre straight as a razor's edge. If this is the 18" miniature, then its shape seems to match the blueprint exactly. What I think must be the 36" (and the Moebius kit?) seems to have the straight wing plane, possibly because (following Brent Gair's example) it was easier to manufacture (and mold?).
Gary Kerr, are you out there? Did some of the wingtips curve and were some straight?
Edit: this 18" picture also doesn't show the the top leading edge slats to be as steeply curved as at least one other FS, this one definitely an in-flight version. ?? This miniature has matches the Aurora kit in one way and not in the other. But it certainly is an elegant shape.

The in flight version was definitely the 36" inch miniature. the 18" was used for the launch sequences.

I put the side profiles of both 18 & 36 to show the difference in hull shape as well

Here is a perod photo of one of the 18" models, which is quite possibly a prototype;

Gary Kerr, are you out there? Did some of the wingtips curve and were some straight?
Yep, I'm here. The shapes of the wingtips on the 3 sizes of FS models were different, because that's what you get when you have human beings, instead of computers, carving complex shapes from blocks of wood. In side profile, the wingtips of the 9" model are gently curved - the same as shown on the studio plans. The central portion of the 18-incher's wingtips were straight, as you can see on the Moebius model, and the wingtips of the 36-incher were similar to those of the 18-incher.

A word of caution: be careful when analyzing the wingtip curvature, since the apparent curvature changes greatly if you're not viewing the model from straight-on.

Megabot11: You are correct - the 36" models were filmed for flight sequences (and an occasional underwater shot). Generally speaking, if you see a Flying Sub being launched from the Seaview while it's on the surface, that's an 18" FS dropping out of the 17' Seaview; however, in shots of the FS being launched from a completely submerged Seaview, you're seeing a 9" FS dropping out of the 8.5' Seaview. That's because the 17-foot Seaview model is heavier than hell. It floats just fine on the surface, but is far too unwieldy for divers to control underwater. Having lifted the 17-footer while it was at Dave Merriman's, I know of what I speak. :-)

Thanks, Gary. It's great that you're here to answer such questions! Yes, it's very difficult, downright impossible to measure a vertical compound curve on a shape with a horizontal compound curve, especially if it's almost always seen at an angle.

Build up looks great! I'd love to see more pics of the front and back!