View Full Version : single cell car weight?


pancartom
02-16-2009, 07:20 AM
as the title says, what is the minimum weight of a single cell car at your track?

losi nut
02-16-2009, 07:55 AM
36 oz, Rosewood, NC

bojo
02-16-2009, 09:18 AM
36oz at Maximus York Maine

pancartom
02-16-2009, 10:11 AM
thanks, guys.... keep 'em coming.

REVALATION
02-16-2009, 11:24 AM
37 oz

Allan A
02-16-2009, 12:07 PM
36 oz at the Ovalmasters and 09 ROAR Nats

Hudson Hornet !
02-16-2009, 12:13 PM
at 36 oz. do you have to add a lot of weight to the car?

pancartom
02-16-2009, 12:19 PM
the club up here has us running at 38 oz.... just trying to build a case for lowering that to 36. (sorry, Brandon......)

matt_s86
02-16-2009, 12:23 PM
I think after the numbers come back from a big race where both 17.5 4 cell and 13.5 1 cell are running, then we'll be able to better judge if we should have a weight penalty or not. Everywhere else they're not mixing them, so they don't need to worry about weights. However, if it comes back that at Winterblast and/or ROAR Nats that the 2 classes ran pretty much the same lap counts then we definitely should be allowed to run 36 oz in Rochester.

Matt

CLB
02-16-2009, 12:25 PM
I had to add over 3 oz to the car to make 36 oz

ToddFalkowski
02-16-2009, 12:30 PM
I'm gonna start testing them here at Michiana RC- I'm gonna start at 36oz, as it seems to be the "standard" so far

Dan
02-16-2009, 01:18 PM
at 36 oz. do you have to add a lot of weight to the car?

I run a cut CW solid car, with a 9650 servo,
stock Futaba 133RX, and a GTB 4/cell. big wires,
all aluminum screws, small RX pack...
Nothing special at all. Just your basic r/c car.
I only had to add 1-3/4 oz. to make 36.

jmccormick
02-16-2009, 02:06 PM
Im run HD with just a few cuts and I only had to add 1.75 oz's not including RX pack and voltage regulater to get to 36.
Performance wise our 1 cell 13.5 cars at 36oz are about the same as 17.5 4 cell at 41oz at our track. At 36 oz you see much less tire wear as well.
I am all for the standard weight for 1 cell to be 36oz.

Hudson Hornet !
02-16-2009, 04:16 PM
Thank you for the replies

DOUGHBOY
02-16-2009, 07:10 PM
its simple weigh a 2 cell pack and then weigh a single cell pack. what ever the difference is deduct that from your current weight limit and let em eat.....

seams kind of dumb to me for people to set these high weight limits so every one has to add like 3oz of lead.. whats the point its kind of like the heating of the battery discussion if every one has to do it to be equal then whats the point...

Steve_B
02-16-2009, 09:16 PM
Pro Advantage 36oz /Belleville ont. Canada
CW solid no cuts losi lipo rec. pack 9650 gtb4cell 12ga. wire 36.1oz no lead.

twelve
02-16-2009, 11:06 PM
The Legend's 17.5 4 cell......38 oz.
PCT's 13.5 1c lipo......41 oz.

pancartom
02-17-2009, 06:43 AM
The Legend's 17.5 4 cell......38 oz.
PCT's 13.5 1c lipo......41 oz.

I think you can see where I am going with this..... :wave:

ovalmaster
02-17-2009, 08:30 AM
Lake City R/C Speedway in Plattsburgh NY - 36 oz

Alan Behler
02-17-2009, 09:02 AM
I think you can see where I am going with this..... :wave:

incase you cant you guys have your cars too heavy!!

36oz= less tire wear:thumbsup:

ToddFalkowski
02-17-2009, 09:25 AM
It took me 2 oz to get my Pro3 up to 36oz, which was fine, as I wanted to be able to add weight where I wanted (LF).

First run on 13.5 / 1C yesterday- literally took my 13.5 / 4 cell car, threw a silly-size pinion on it, added the 2oz in front of the pack, and ran it. Without turning a wrench, I loved the feel of the car, had zero tire wear. Frankly, loved it.

X man
02-17-2009, 10:29 AM
Maybe we should lower the wieght at the track except for Tom.
54 ounces LOL
Dan

REVALATION
02-17-2009, 11:45 AM
well every track that i have talked to says the lipos are a tenth faster then the regular 4 cell. so if this is trure the weight needs to go up. this is suppose to be good racing at a equal level. its not any fun when people fly by u b/c the can run a lower weight with the lipos.

casper60
02-17-2009, 11:48 AM
well every track that i have talked to says the lipos are a tenth faster then the regular 4 cell. so if this is trure the weight needs to go up. this is suppose to be good racing at a equal level. its not any fun when people fly by u b/c the can run a lower weight with the lipos.

Wait... didn't you just turn a 79 that should have been an 80? if your car is working that good you have nothing to worry about :thumbsup:

REVALATION
02-17-2009, 11:50 AM
...........................................

casper60
02-17-2009, 11:52 AM
lol... i know

REVALATION
02-17-2009, 11:52 AM
:thumbsup:

casper60
02-17-2009, 11:55 AM
you should switch over... Considering you can buy a used 13.5 cheap, and TQ has a sale on the booster and a 1s lipo for 65$... Cheaper than buying new NiMh packs...

REVALATION
02-17-2009, 12:45 PM
:mad::freak:

Dan
02-17-2009, 01:46 PM
well every track that i have talked to says the lipos are a tenth faster then the regular 4 cell.
We have not found that to be true where we race..
A tenth would be about a lap and a half at our track, and the difference
is no where near that.. if any..
The guys that turned 60 laps, still turn 60 laps...
The guys that win A-mains... still win.
Either way.

this is suppose to be good racing at a equal level.
This IS good racing.. and you will see that it is a lot more equal
as you get into it...
its not any fun when people fly by u b/c the can run a lower weight with the lipos.

Here is the tip of the day...
Don't run them together, if that is your issue.
But I will say, that when you do make the switch,
a bunch of you are going to say
"why didn't we do this sooner?"

RCRacer00
02-17-2009, 02:01 PM
At Turn 4 we run the 1 cells at 2.25Lbs(36oz).

A few weeks ago we ran a 17.5/4cell car with the 13.5/1cell cars and all cars were bumper to bumper for the 4 min run.

Our track records are close as well with 17.5/4cell being:53-4:03.67
and 13.5/1cell being: 53-4:02.76

What i like about this class the best, Anyone can win. All the races we've seen so far all drivers are finishing on the same lap. anyone could take the top spot.

REVALATION
02-17-2009, 03:57 PM
naw a tenth is like 60 4:02 4 cell 60 4:01 1 cell

matt_s86
02-17-2009, 04:09 PM
Uhh...you're not getting it. Dan meant if you're a tenth slower in lap times, over the course of a race you'd be a lap and a half slower.

REVALATION
02-17-2009, 04:31 PM
but im not talking about lap times and he was reffering to what i said

matt_s86
02-17-2009, 04:34 PM
If you're talking about a tenth slower over a run then you're splitting hairs...LMAO.

REVALATION
02-17-2009, 04:35 PM
a tenth is a tenth still faster. every milisecond counts in my book

casper60
02-17-2009, 04:36 PM
Well, the difference between a 4.01 and a 4.02 is not a tenth... lol

REVALATION
02-17-2009, 04:39 PM
ok 100th

still the point is at 36oz they are faster

matt_s86
02-17-2009, 04:39 PM
Either way...WOW...that difference is negligible.

casper60
02-17-2009, 04:45 PM
Wait... Brandon, weren't you just talking about runnning 21.5 anyway?

I think the point here is the rest of the country seems to be running them at 36 ounces, why should we be the only track running them heavier?

Just like 21.5.... making the switch in classes made people change, 17.5 is no different. In the end the 13.5 1s is cheaper with less wear and tear on the equipment. Why would you not make the switch?

REVALATION
02-17-2009, 05:08 PM
Wait... Brandon, weren't you just talking about runnning 21.5 anyway?

I think the point here is the rest of the country seems to be running them at 36 ounces, why should we be the only track running them heavier?

Just like 21.5.... making the switch in classes made people change, 17.5 is no different. In the end the 13.5 1s is cheaper with less wear and tear on the equipment. Why would you not make the switch?

21.5 no b/c of a certain reason im not saying on the forum. but the point is that that weight was set with what i believe wwas little testing was done. and its not cheaper. to swich to this i have to spend 150$ to switch. 80 for motor 50 for battery and atleast 20 for a reciever pack. then in 6 months some1 else will come out with a 1 cell lipo and every1 will go to that just like the 2 cell lipo deal. y switch when the main pack im running is over a year old and still running good. i ran a new 4 cell and didnt gain any speed. i can buy used batterys in awsome shape that are just a couple months old for cheap and they run great. lipo is easier and might be cost effective for some but what about the people still running brushed that cant afford to go brushlesss and lipo and be competitive. its cheaper for them to buy a ESC and a 17.5 and use the 4 cells they have. i think that lipo and 4 cell should be two seperate classes. everyone has their own opinion on this subject and this is mine. im done adding to this b/c i have expressed my opinion on the subject!!

JBCJP
02-17-2009, 05:31 PM
For anyone that has tied this class you will find even if they are .01 faster the fact is they are easier to drive.There is just alittle missing in the snap department.We have been running this for 4 weeks have not broken any records.but has been some of the the closest racing that I have seen in years!This class can only help are hobby and would be in are best interest to keep it simple!
Everything here is in side so stock is and will probly always be the bigger class.I would like to see the 17.5 3.7 class be the new stock class.Then we could have a pro stock class of 13.5. Two motors one battery,lets get more people in this hobby. Not make more of us spend our money on video games.
Brian

BudD
02-17-2009, 05:53 PM
Brandon, all I have to say to all this is. If you want to keep thinking that way after you
graduate, please choose JCC for college. If not, keep splitting hairs at barber school.

casper60
02-17-2009, 05:57 PM
Brandon, all I have to say to all this is. If you want to keep thinking that way after you graduate, please choose JCC for college.

lmao :p

matt_s86
02-17-2009, 06:16 PM
keep splitting hairs at barber school.

Buuuurn.

REVALATION
02-17-2009, 06:17 PM
:thumbsup:

Dan
02-17-2009, 08:11 PM
a tenth is a tenth still faster. every milisecond counts in my book

If you can lose a race, by a tenth of a second, and blame it
on your pack, and not because you missed ONE corner,
ONE time, by six inches, you are without question....
1000 times the driver I ever was, or ever wished to be.. :rolleyes:

Jesse Bean
02-17-2009, 08:15 PM
i've got 3.75 oz on the gen three to make 36 oz

Dan
02-17-2009, 09:22 PM
i've got 3.75 oz on the gen three to make 36 oz


wow... that is one leeeeeeeean machine, Jesse!!