The 09 ROAR carpet oval nationals will be held at Greeneville RC Speedway in Greeneville Tn. The race will be ran on March 13-15. The lenght of the race has been shortened to make it more racer friendly. Friday will be a practice day. Qualifying run on Saturday, mains on Sunday. Classes ran will be

17.5 and or27T brushed 4 cell
21.5/3200 car body
17.5/lipo
21.5/3200 truck body
10.5 lipo

We have a killer deal worked out with the Days Inn just a mile from the track. less than 43.00 including taxes. I will have a flyer up soon. Make your plans now to attend. More info coming soon.

Can't wait! Sam Ledford, Ken Holmes, and myself should be flying up from down here as part of the Roar team. It's going to be a great race!

As far as I know now...Steve Nelson (Seven), Steve Herndon, and myself will be there. Alwasy a good time in Greeneville.

Applebee's here we come!!!

Joel White

Online registration for the '09 ROAR Oval Carpet Nationals is now open. Go to www.ROARRacing.com (http://www.ROARRacing.com) and select the Event Registration tab to start the process. You'll need to have a log-in account which requires a valid email address. In '09 you'll also need to be a current ROAR member to register for ROAR National Championships. You'll need your ROAR member number. If you don't know it contact the ROAR Administrator at administrator@roarracing.com with your full name and the address you used to register. If your not a member you can register online as well.

2009 will be open ROAR approved motors and batteries in all classes. The Lipo 21.5 classes will be limited to approved 3200 mah 2S 7.4v lipo batteries. Weights have also been updated for 2009 so check your rule book.

With Mike, Sam and Ken as the RMT you can count on an efficient, smooth and fair race for all.

Ruben Benitez
ROAR Competition Director

u should do a single cell class:thumbsup:it would really help the evolution after the birds!

Yeah it would be cool to change the truck class out for a 13.5 1C car class. Two 21.5 classes is a little much. Just my opinion of course. Either way this is going to be a killer event!!

Yeah it would be cool to change the truck class out for a 13.5 1C car class. Two 21.5 classes is a little much. Just my opinion of course. Either way this is going to be a killer event!!

Mike Russell said that ROAR wouldn't let them run a single cell class even as an exhibition class. I already asked him. :(

I'll be there with some 17.5 4 cell action and maybe that 21.5 truck class. :woohoo:

Bill

yeah, Hopefully Tekin will have a single cell by the approval date and it will be a legitimate class for the nationals.:thumbsup:

yeah, Hopefully Tekin will have a single cell by the approval date and it will be a legitimate class for the nationals.:thumbsup:

Well it wont be approved befor the nats, as the next approval date isn't until May.

ROAR wouldn't let them run a single cell class even as an exhibition class.


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Maybe somebody should call me?

I'll call ya, whatcha wanna talka bout? What's ya numba?

I think before we get to involved we may want to make sure Allan wants to offer a single cell class.

I think before we get to involved we may want to make sure Allan wants to offer a single cell class.


True... :)

I just don't recall saying no to this one... although... I have the worst memory in the history of woman-kind LOL

if there's interest speak now or forever hold ur peace. i think the transition would take a lot more momentum if the single cell/13.5 class was offered. someone will have to get a couple rules ironed out. i know a lot are running 36oz and then there's the volt limit, we do 4.20 +.04 varience for chargers just as the other lipo classes.

PS somebody tell me the roof height rule! Roar's rules section isn't up and i believe its 4.25"?

What is the cost?

if there's interest speak now or forever hold ur peace. i think the transition would take a lot more momentum if the single cell/13.5 class was offered. someone will have to get a couple rules ironed out. i know a lot are running 36oz and then there's the volt limit, we do 4.20 +.04 varience for chargers just as the other lipo classes.

PS somebody tell me the roof height rule! Roar's rules section isn't up and i believe its 4.25"?

I'm in, I was planning on being there anyway and would love to run single cell instead of buying NiMH packs to race.

Bill

What is the cost?

Cost of what? If you're asking about entries it'll be the same as last year.

In regards to single cell at this race. I'm currently at the Birds and Mike R, Allan, Mike B and I have had some really good conversation regarding this and an announcment will be later this week. I'm sure you guys will be happy with the announcement.:thumbsup:

What is the cost to enter 1 class?

What are the approved 21.5 motors for the LIPO 21.5 car class?

What is the weight rule?

can we run a wing?

What are ROAR rulse on heating LIPO's, and Freezing motors?

Heard it was $80 which is steep but allan has put a lot of money in that place especially with that crc carpet that's apparently made of GOLD and he's got some overhead. So, no complaints here this time! Lookin forward to Single cell 13.5! Feels like goin home when i go to Greenville!:thumbsup:

$80.00 for a non-hand out race?

What is the rule for tire traction Compound?

If this is a ROAR Nat, the price is set by ROAR, remember just like it was for the Paved Oval Nats last year.

i believe they are odorless nowdays, which means less headaches

21.5 - Yes a wing is allowd. It is Jack for compound. 38 oz for weight.

Can't wait to hear about the 1C stuff. I should be there for sure if that class is offered. As Jesse said it is just like going home when you go to Greeneville. Allan and crew are some of the best in the country, and they go out of their way to may sure each and every racer has a great time.

Joel White

What are the approved 21.5 motors for the LIPO 21.5 car class?

What are ROAR rules on heating LIPO's, and Freezing motors?

Ok last 2 unanswered questions,

Thanks for the answers so far, And sorry if I am being annoying, Just want to be prepared if I make the trip.....

This is the Roar Nats so... any Roar approved motors.

As far as I know ROAR doesn't have rules on Heating and Cooling. If I remember right at Greeneville You can heat your packs, just not above a set temp. And I dont think we were able to cool the motors. I am sure Allan will be on in a few days to talk about these questions. I am not sure when he will be coming back from FL.

BTW. These questions are not annoying...especially if you are thinking about coming to the race...

Joel White

Rats, i wont be able to come up.....Tax Season preventing me from coming :(

Jim

As far as I know ROAR doesn't have rules on Heating and Cooling.


that is likely to change... after the Snowbirds this weekend, the ROAR Excom is in discussion regarding several items regarding Lipo batteries and rule enforcement and possibly some alterations to the existing rules.

Please stay tuned.....

thanks.

One thing to keep in mind though is that these Lipo's do not like the cold weather. So no heating at all may not be the right direction. But setting a rule that the packs can not go over 100 degrees or something would be good.

I personally heat my packs, but I put the heating pad on the outside of the lipo sack. I see people with the heating pad inside the sack and it is not closed. In my opinion why have the lipo sack if that is how you use it. Mine goes on Med, and the packs get up to about 93 to 100 degrees, but it is always closed.

Just my 2 cents.

Back to the race....Can't wait to hear how all the talks went down at the birds.

Joel White

ok one more..... I have read and been told that All Tekin brushless motors have been approved, But the 21.5 is not on the list....unless i missd it?

I have yet to see any other MFG of a 21.5 even come close to a Novak's power so this is really a non issue.

As far as I know 21.5 isn't really a "ROAR" class. But I am sure Novak's will be allowed within a certain inductance/resistance. Hopefully with Dawn, Mike, Allan and all the others that have had talks in the last few weeks everything will be ironed out soon.

Novak is what seems to be the quickest so far for me also in 21.5

Car Bodies for 13.5/3.7 class PLEASE!:thumbsup:

Car Bodies for 13.5/3.7 class PLEASE!:thumbsup:

I don't want to drive the truck.

cot bodies would be cool if protoform had theres out!

Car bodies for 13.5 1C. No COT or Trucks

ok one more..... I have read and been told that All Tekin brushless motors have been approved, But the 21.5 is not on the list....unless i missd it?


All Tekin motors that have been submitted to date are listed. I'm not aware of any still waiting but I will verify.

As far as I know 21.5 isn't really a "ROAR" class. But I am sure Novak's will be allowed within a certain inductance/resistance. Hopefully with Dawn, Mike, Allan and all the others that have had talks in the last few weeks everything will be ironed out soon.


Please refer to rule 8.8.2.3.4 for 21.5 motor specs and page 17 of the Nationals Guidelines that refer to 21.5 as a required Oval class.

Also, we will be technically inspecting BL motors with additional methods outside of inductance only as per the BL motor company representatives suggestions and assistance in validating fairness of each motor.

I informed CHARLIE @ Novak a couple weeks ago that the ONLY 21.5 listed on ROAR's website is the TRINITY 21.5... Not sure how that ball got dropped, or by who but hopefully it'll be corrected...


Modified Associated/Reedy LRP Brushless N.E.O. 1 gray can, black end caps, VTEC September 19, 2005
Modified Associated/Reedy LRP Vector X11 Brushless w/bonded or sintered rotor July 1, 2007
Modified Checkpoint/Hobbico Checkpoint/Hobbico 'ALL IN' TCPCXX (XX refers to wind) July 14, 2008
Modified Hacker Brushless USA Hacker E40 (any wind) February 25, 2008
Modified Losi Losi Losi Xcelorin LOSB9404 (10.5T) and LOSBxxxx May 14, 2008
Modified Novak Novak 1050 Teardown, bare A1 can ends, purple band March 28, 2005
Modified Novak Novak 3410SS 10.5 Pro February 5, 2008
Modified Novak Novak Velociti bare A1 can ends, purple bands September 19, 2005
Modified Orion Orion Vortex 2008 Race X.XT ORI28128 (4.0T), ORI28129 (4.5T) and other winds May 17, 2008
Modified Orion Orion Vortex Brushless 128XX w/sintered rotor (XX refers to wind) July 1, 2007
Modified Orion Orion Vortex 2008 Stock 10.5 P/N ORI28140 May 18, 2008
Modified Schumacher USA Speed Passion SP Competition 2.0 with 13.0 rotor P/N RA 13825 (w/o fan) May 14, 2008
Modified Schumacher USA Speed Passion SP Competition 2.0 P/N 13825 & 13835 (all winds/rotors listed below) May 14, 2008
Modified Schumacher USA Speed Passion SP Competition 2.0 with 12.0 rotor P/N RB 13845 (w/fan) May 14, 2008
Modified Schumacher USA Speed Passion SP Competition 2.0 with 12.5 rotor P/N 13835-ER1 (w/fan) May 14, 2008
Modified Schumacher USA Speed Passion SP Competition 2.0 with 12.0 rotor P/N RB13835-ER2 (w/fan) May 14, 2008
Modified Schumacher USA Speed Passion Speed Passion Competition Series 13835 (any wind) February 25, 2008
Modified Schumacher USA Speed Passion SP Competition 2.0 with 13.0 rotor P/N RB 13835 (w/fan) May 14, 2008
Modified Tekin Tekin Redline 10.5 Type S P/N TT2253 July 22, 2008
Modified Tekin Tekin Redline Type S P/N TT22XX (XX refers to wind) July 22, 2008
Modified Trinity Trinity TRI 10209 10.5 (green timing plate) February 27, 2008
Modified Trinity Trinity TRI 10403 Pulse Mod (all winds) November 18, 2008
Modified/10.5 Spec Trinity Trinity TRI 10412 Pulse 10.5 11.0 November 18, 2008
Stock Associated LRP Vector X11 Stockspec 17.5T 38.5 February 15, 2008
Stock Hacker Brushless USA Hacker E40 - 17.5T 33.0 July 28, 2008
Stock Losi Losi Xcelorin 17.5 LOSAB9406 32.5 February 29, 2008
Stock Novak Novak 3417SS 17.5 Pro 36.5 February 15, 2008
Stock Orion Orion Vortex 2008 Stock 17.5 31.5 October 17, 2008
Stock Schumacher USA Speed Passion SPF175 Ultra Sportsman Stock 34.5 May 8, 2008
Stock Tekin Tekin Reline 17.5T Type-S P/N 2251 33.0 July 24, 2008
Stock Trinity Trinity TRI 10210 17.5T (red timing plate) 34.0 May 20, 2008
Stock/17.5 Spec Trinity Trinity TRI 10414 Pulse 17.5T 34 November 14, 2008
Stock/21.5 Spec Trinity Trinity TRI 10415 Pulse 21.5T 55 November 14, 2008
Super Stock Hacker Brushless USA Hacker E40 - 13.5T 22.5 February 25, 2008
Super Stock Losi Losi Xcelorin 13.5 LOSAB9405 19.2 February 29, 2008
Super Stock LRP LRP Vector X11 Stockspec 13.5T #50840, black motor shaft 22.5 February 27, 2008
Super Stock Novak Novak 3413SS 13.5 Pro 21.0 February 15, 2008
Super Stock Orion Orion Vortex 2008 Stock 13.5 P/N ORI28141 - Rotor without fan 19.5 June 6, 2008
Super Stock Schumacher USA Speed Passion SPF135 Ultra Sportsman Stock 21.7 May 8, 2008
Super Stock Tekin Tekin Redline 13.5 Type S P/N TT2252 19.0 July 22, 2008
Super Stock Trinity Trinity TRI 10210 13.5T (blue timing plate) 20.5 May 20, 2008
Super Stock/13.5 Spec Trinity Trinity TRI 10413 Pulse 13.5

Is single cell a go or what? I'm ready to make my reservations.

Bill

make the reservation and let them feel the guilt of turning away the $80 bucks!:thumbsup: we'll have one hell of a time at applebees if we do have an extra $80 for the bar.

And if the Blond is still there you can give her a big tip and get shot down again...HAHAHAHA!!

allen said at the birds he is workn on the 1cell class 4 this race.would b car bodys hope it happens will b what i run

Is single cell a go or what? I'm ready to make my reservations.

Bill
We are working out the details on single cell class now. I am 95% sure we will offer this class.

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner.

We are working out the details on single cell class now. I am 95% sure we will offer this class.

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner.

OK Alan, you've convinced me! I'll be there!!!!! :thumbsup:

Thanks,
Bill

a few more questions?

Any word on the heating the batts,? or Freezing the motors?

and are the 40C 3200 legal for 21.5?

Entry for all ROAR Nationals is $80 per class.

There is currently only one approved 21.5 and that's the Trinity Pulse. They're the only one's that have submitted for approval. We should see Novak, Tekin and some of the other mfr's submitting this coming week.

As far as approved batteries if it's on the list it's approved to be used at this race. The last approvals we're at the end of Dec and one in Jan. These were all batteries approved under the open approval cycle which closed 12/31/08. The next update for 2S 7.2V batteries won't happen until May 1st, 2009.

As far as heating and cooling of motors or batteries. Due to the recent lipo incidents at he last couple major indoor carpet races there will be an announcement made in the next week or two regarding some rule changes in lipo charging/discharging as well as the use of heating and cooling equipment in the pits at ROAR events.

As fasr as a 1S 13.5 class, still working the details out with Allan, we'll let you guys know in the next few days.

Entry for all ROAR Nationals is $80 per class.

There is currently only one approved 21.5 and that's the Trinity Pulse. They're the only one's that have submitted for approval. We should see Novak, Tekin and some of the other mfr's submitting this coming week.

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So if this happen's will they be legal for this race?

I thought entry fees were gonna be lower this year!