420, you got a pm dude

Hmmm, nothing in my inbox leonard.I am going to PM you my e-mail address, so just get ahold of me directly.

Since ROAR is now recommending 17.5 brushless for Slash/SCT class, will MORL allow 17.5 brushless motors in this class.

Since ROAR is now recommending 17.5 brushless for Slash/SCT class, will MORL allow 17.5 brushless motors in this class.

Hmmmm, very good question.Since we have always ran roar "based" rules in the past,you would think so.Plus, since they are running the 2 trucks together it isnt really a "spec" class any way.

But on a more serious note, anybody else get any outdoor runtime this weekend??My track is dry , but still spongy from the thaw so it was blown out in 2 batteries with 2- 17.5 trucks running on it.Made for great litchfeild type practice with the 3rd battery LOL!

I dont think you can get a good practice for litchfeild

Sure you can, just run on a spongy soil track for a couple batteries and it's a pretty similar once it gets blown out.But on the upside , I got to spend the whole day fixin jumps and re-surfacing straights and corners and compacting the crap out of it!!Shoulld be prime for that nice sunny 65* plus weather we are going to get tomorrow!Thank god I have 2 more weeks before I go back to work!

Hank,

Bill Wood said now that ROAR has established their rules for Short Course racing, look for updates on the MORL site regarding the rules they plan to employ. Probably another meeting will happen to hash out the details.

He didn't specify exactly when, only soon. I know the link to the MORL site was given back a few pages

Thanks for them kind words Ya we be cookin. I talked to Mr.Foggelson last night He said he can allready smell that back strap a cookin Memorial weekend.
Whats up Mr.Brady
sorry no pitchers no alum stuff I'll call you later

Hey Jeff, wassup? Hey, can we meet up on thursday? I have to go to a wedding on friday directly after work. lmk where to meet, I live in north Grand Rapids.
thanx jeff, call me on tuesday.

Apple

On the whole SC class thing I'm fine with it being a spec class or going to the ROAR rules.

I'm fine with running all the tires in the class and 17.5/brushed stock. The cost of the class goes way up once we let brushless and all of the available tires in but it's not that bad once you have everything.

If there is a need for a Slash spec class then have that as a novice/basher class and let them run.

SC is just a second class for me (and a 3rd/4th for others) so I'm really not all that concerned about it. I'd like to just be able to run and charge all day so the Traxxas is perfect for that. In the end I think it's going to be limited by the tires and motor so the chassis won't be as big of a deal as some think.

On the whole SC class thing I'm fine with it being a spec class or going to the ROAR rules.

I'm fine with running all the tires in the class and 17.5/brushed stock. The cost of the class goes way up once we let brushless and all of the available tires in but it's not that bad once you have everything.

If there is a need for a Slash spec class then have that as a novice/basher class and let them run.

SC is just a second class for me (and a 3rd/4th for others) so I'm really not all that concerned about it. I'd like to just be able to run and charge all day so the Traxxas is perfect for that. In the end I think it's going to be limited by the tires and motor so the chassis won't be as big of a deal as some think.

Y would the cost go up? Or do you mean the price of the brushless system itself?

On the whole SC class thing I'm fine with it being a spec class or going to the ROAR rules.

I'm fine with running all the tires in the class and 17.5/brushed stock. The cost of the class goes way up once we let brushless and all of the available tires in but it's not that bad once you have everything.

If there is a need for a Slash spec class then have that as a novice/basher class and let them run.

SC is just a second class for me (and a 3rd/4th for others) so I'm really not all that concerned about it. I'd like to just be able to run and charge all day so the Traxxas is perfect for that. In the end I think it's going to be limited by the tires and motor so the chassis won't be as big of a deal as some think.

Well put.You can only put as much power down as the traction allows, so I agree the corr style tires will be the real limiter.

Y would the cost go up? Or do you mean the price of the brushless system itself?

The cost of Brushless is a non issue for me. They can run stock per ROAR's new rules if they want so all of the Slash guys can still run their stock electronics (and be slow). All that said, a brushed set-up is cheaper to buy than a brushless set-up. Maybe not in the long run but cheaper to get started.

The tires on the other hand will add cost. I'd rather pay for a few sets of tires than fight the truck all day because the tires don't work.

Like I said, it doesn't matter to me what direction we take. Some of the guys aren't going to be happy if it's not "spec" and some will be upset if it is. My money is on two classes after the first year (CORR has Sportsman and Pro-lite for instance). Actually, CORR has like 8 classes but...

I think that the few allowed changes make it much more FUN without too much extra cost I am all for ROAR with this one and with the way they have been running things they need to impliment some good things and this one gets my thumbs up

Hummmmm wonder how easy it will be to fit the SCT tires on the Slash? ;)

Hummmmm wonder how easy it will be to fit the SCT tires on the Slash? ;)

They mount right up. Should last for a long time but the tires that are out now are about $30 for a set of 4 without wheels. Again, not a big deal for most of us.

Yep, the SC10 and the Slash tires with the larger bead on the inside are the same.

You Can Do It

i hope they keep the rules they made at the meeting

Either way I will crush a Short Course truck like Bigfoot on a house trailer! And this will be a good way to get Fred to pickup a 4 wheel and stop with this spec class nonsense!!!:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

You'll see me run both buggy classes before I run 4wd. 1/8th maybe but not 10th.

I have a question concerning racing two wheel drive truck in the Masters Class for the Morl Series in 2009. Do you have to have clear windows on your body? Can you paint the body all one color and put decals on for windows and side nets? Because I have been looking for factory decals to put on my T4 and was told they have to be clear, just wondering. Thanks.

I have a question concerning racing two wheel drive truck in the Masters Class for the Morl Series in 2009. Do you have to have clear windows on your body? Can you paint the body all one color and put decals on for windows and side nets? Because I have been looking for factory decals to put on my T4 and was told they have to be clear, just wondering. Thanks.

Mc-1; I know of a few guys that run the losi RTR bodies with the stickers for the windows on their trucks in the series.Never heard if anybody getting in dutch for it.

You'll see me run both buggy classes before I run 4wd. 1/8th maybe but not 10th.

Aw come on fred, rusty just wants us all to run 4wheel. I am with you though,I think I would rather run slash anyday than 4wheel , just because its fun, and wont cost you a paycheck in broken parts by the end of the weekend:thumbsup:

By the way I have a question..Will we be able to run a truck in the corr classes as long as it fits all of roar's rules for the class?????Just asking Because my GV2-T will accept the AE wheels and tires, and the bumpers can also be mounted , so add a CORR body and good to go, as long as the powers that be deem it legal.

By the way I have a question..Will we be able to run a truck in the corr classes as long as it fits all of roar's rules for the class?????Just asking Because my GV2-T will accept the AE wheels and tires, and the bumpers can also be mounted , so add a CORR body and good to go, as long as the powers that be deem it legal.

SWEET!

By the way I have a question..Will we be able to run a truck in the corr classes as long as it fits all of roar's rules for the class?????Just asking Because my GV2-T will accept the AE wheels and tires, and the bumpers can also be mounted , so add a CORR body and good to go, as long as the powers that be deem it legal.

You'll probably need to cut the chassis and add some wheelbase to it to fit the rules. It's gotta fit in the sweet spot of the rules.

By the way I have a question..Will we be able to run a truck in the corr classes as long as it fits all of roar's rules for the class?????Just asking Because my GV2-T will accept the AE wheels and tires, and the bumpers can also be mounted , so add a CORR body and good to go, as long as the powers that be deem it legal.

Doubtful you'll get the tires to fit inside the body,

thanks 420 tech r/c.... mc-1

You'll probably need to cut the chassis and add some wheelbase to it to fit the rules. It's gotta fit in the sweet spot of the rules.

It will be within the rules 100%.track width,wheel base, and the wheels WILL remain in the body.Call it a prototype for team academy.

The academy trucks are desighned to use T4 wheels. They use the same offsets, so keeping the wheels in the body is not an issue. As for the chassis stretch, no problem.I will be building the prototype using the same methods some of the X-Factory guys used to lengthen the X-Factory buggy chassis to prototype the X-60 truck. Once I prove it plausible, the specs will be turned over to Academy for production.I will be shooting for the exact same wheelbase as an SC10, and since the academy truck and the T4 run identicle offsets the track width is a no brainer,just bolt on the sc10 wheels..If the officialls would like to inspect it before I sign up for the class at litchfeild to make sure its within the roar given specs, Not an issue.

Will a tire iron be required to make it go???

... this is why it should be slash stock class. only

Will a tire iron be required to make it go???

Nope, you have to crank start it like the old cars:thumbsup:

... this is why it should be slash stock class. only

If they dont let me run it , fine.Not an issue for me.I can get all the performance testing out of the way at other venues, it would just be nice to be able to test while i race,that's why the question was asked FAR in advance.:thumbsup:But man you gotta expect more manufacturers to jump on board since ROAR kicked the door wide open with their rules for the class.

I honestly don't know how we're ging to get this class going without keeping the Slash class and adding the ROAR class. The "spec" guys won't be happy running with the SC10's.

One class would be Traxxas "spec" using the rules announced earlier on here.

The other class would run any SC truck that fits the ROAR rules. This would allow the guys that want to run brushless, different tires and cars a place to run. I'd actually run my Slash in this class.

I honestly don't know how we're ging to get this class going without keeping the Slash class and adding the ROAR class. The "spec" guys won't be happy running with the SC10's.

One class would be Traxxas "spec" using the rules announced earlier on here.

The other class would run any SC truck that fits the ROAR rules. This would allow the guys that want to run brushless, different tires and cars a place to run. I'd actually run my Slash in this class.

sounds completely reasonable to me.Did you go up to als yesterday fred??If so , How did you do?
We ran at my house yesterday.Good time, 7 of us out there made for fun on my small track:thumbsup:Give me a call I have some happy news for us jacksonians that are tired of driving to go club racing.

Since word has it that Losi & Kyosho plan to put together Short Course trucks as well, I don't see why you couldn't Chad.

Just make sure it meets all the size requirements & I don't see how they can turn you away.

http://www.roarracing.com/downloads/2009_ROAR_SCT_Provisional_Class_Rules.pdf

420tech r/c were are you at in jackson my step daughter lives in vandercook.

420tech r/c were are you at in jackson my step daughter lives in vandercook.

I am about 10 min. away from vandercook.I am a block south of high street, and 2blocks west of south jackson St. mc-1 , who are you? Just wondering because a group of us that all race the series are basically going to start running our own in town type of series on off weekends to help keep costs down for all of us to keep racing and keep in practice this year.Right now we have 4 tracks on the roster(myself,1 in clark lake, and 2 in napoleon).We will be using a robitronics scoring system(thanks to Cory Smith)which is portable so it can be taken to all 4 tracks.We are looking to get the word out locally so all of us can get together and get a schedule set for the season that works for most involved.As far as classes we are looking at running; buggy, truck, and corr.We are a little limited on space at a couple of the tracks.Mainly at my house because i am in the city.I can accomodate pit space for probally 20-25 people max without it becoming an issue with Johnny law:thumbsup:.If you want to talk drop me a PM with your Phone # ,and I will give you a call:thumbsup:

OK, i am more than confused here. I hear you are going to run a slash spec class.

What is the rule on motors? Can we run the titan that comes with the truck? If not, what motors exaxtly will be approved? Do we have to buy them from the track that day?

Whats the rule on shocks?

Thank you...

From the MORRL website:

"Short Course - This is for the Slash/SC10 type trucks. No aluminum after market parts, plastic aftermarket parts are allowed to replace the bulkhead, arms and outer hubs. Radio, receiver, servo and speed control may be changed. Motors in this class are to be ROAR stock brushed or Traxxas Titan only. All other motors including brushless are considered mod and would need 6 to make a class. Must use tires that would normally fit on the Slash/SC10 rims. 1/10th offroad truck tires are not allowed. Cut tires are not allowed."

Before the announcement of the SC10, It was going to be a Slash spec class,, But since the few people who preordered a SC10 aren't confident that they can have enough entries to run a separate corr class, they want to be mixed in with the Slash. The Sc10 proponents say that they will dumb down the sc10, so that the slash will be competitive with them.

Based on what Mac posted, it sounds as if MORL may still be deciding what the rules will be. I've heard what Mac posted, and some other possibilities being considered as well.

This has turned out to be a hotly debated topic....... so don't be surprised if it takes awhile to get the official word.

So then we dont know if the titan will be allowed yet....hmmm still scratching my head

Just to make it clear as mud.

There hasn't been a final decision on the rules yet. They're probably waiting for a SC10 truck to show up to see how good it really is.

My personal vote is two classes.

#1 Slash Spec - Slash trucks with specific aftermarket parts allowed. Motors would be the Slash motor and the tires would be Slash.

#2 SC10 - SC10/Slash/any truck that fits the new ROAR rules. 17.5 brushless and any SC10 tire. Basically the ROAR rules for te class.

But, we'll have to wait and see...

I suspect that is what they will decide, Fred. It makes sense, and would seem to satisfy all.

But, again, it is not my decision to make.

Just to make it clear as mud.

There hasn't been a final decision on the rules yet. They're probably waiting for a SC10 truck to show up to see how good it really is.

My personal vote is two classes.

#1 Slash Spec - Slash trucks with specific aftermarket parts allowed. Motors would be the Slash motor and the tires would be Slash.

#2 SC10 - SC10/Slash/any truck that fits the new ROAR rules. 17.5 brushless and any SC10 tire. Basically the ROAR rules for te class.

But, we'll have to wait and see...

Wouldnt satisfy guys w/good trucks wantin to run mod.
I agree, 2 classes:
slash spec and open, end of story.


next subject........

i am with you apple.. i just dont want to scramble at the last minute for a motor....

slash spec and open all the way!

Its the only way. Just like any class, stock and mod.

No worries beef, Ill hook you up with a 6.5 for your slash, lol.

Its the only way. Just like any class, stock and mod.

No worries beef, Ill hook you up with a 6.5 for your slash, lol.
Have you witnessed the damage beef can do with a stock Titan motor? Your asking for carnage with a 6.5.......Oh the humanity! :thumbsup: