I would suggest keeping the discussion civil. Thanks

I would add one thing to that. Frying any speedo is a pain ! I have had some go also. I had 2 cheaper brushed LRP speedos go bad on me and wouldn't allow myself to buy their expensive brushless one.
yea i fried two qc2's awhile back one i exchanged for the sphere tc-spec which i didnt even run for a year and fried and had to trade it for the new sxx tc-spec i love the speedos but their exspensive and fry for no apparrent reason

I think part of the problem is your trying to run an 1/8th scale cars on 10th scale tracks. Thats about like racing a Formula 1 car on a go cart track. Looks like you hit the nail on the head!

That's why for the shorter tracks my 1/8 buggy will be set -up to run 2- 3s packs in parallel with a 2000kv motor.For longer tracks like stateline all I have to do is switch to a 4s configuration to get the power needed.

I got a great idea next year let's NOT run 1/8 scale..or let 1/8 scale marshal 1/8 scale.

Or, we be careful the MORL program is run on tracks suiting the program? I think the 1/8 program is growing in popularity too fast to be ignored... Structurally, I think the answer is to raise the bar on the program as it relates to safety, track fitness, and safety aspects of marshaling.

(I'm not advocating seat belts)

(corrected the typos)

I got a great idea next year let's NOT run 1/8 scale..or let 1/8 scale marshal 1/8 scale.
thats a stupid idea

that is a stupid idea

Sorry, my bad, it was the second qually, and he NEVER came close to lapping me, I was in second behind Mike Champ, No matter where he was doesnt give him the right to PLOW through me, HAVE SOME RESPECT!!! Obviously this kid has had issues with alot of peeps on here, so settle down. I drive with respect, I lift instead of peeling somebody, learn it!!! I also marshal 110% like i would like others to, I showed that at BFG, I got called 'super marshal', we all need to chill, Have respect when driving, and marshal to your absolute best ability.

I would still like to find out who peeled me, and broke me, while I was leading the A main stk truck at Jones? Anybody? That incedent alone cost me first place for the overall points, I lost 9 points at jones, I lost 1st place by 8, I am still uptight about that.

maybe if you would let the faster car by you this kind of a STUPID mistake wouldn't happen

I got a great idea next year let's NOT run 1/8 scale..or let 1/8 scale marshal 1/8 scale.

Why should only 8th sclae drivers have to marshall 8th scale, Can we say we don't want to marshall novice, or stock truck because it is too slow and not exciting?

I would say if you don't want to marshall 8th scale then DON'T!!, especially if you are a volunteer.

Most of the 4 wheel guys are capable of marshalling 8th scale without problems, and I don't see why 8th scale should be limited to only 8th scale driver marshalls.

I also dont understande why 8th scale is so problematic with marshalls, when they've been ran at washtenaw all winter for a few years with next to no problems.

honestly guys this is the morl series it isnt exactly filled with the greatest drivers exspecially compared to the FTMS so you gotta expect people to be crashing and marshalls getting hurt. and you can definitly blame the track for most of it exspecially the leaf blower guy hoplessly blowing dust all over into your eyes if for some reason i go there next year im bring my goggles for sure

The MORL series is larger and has drawn entries from a much wider level of drivers, so trying to compare both series is pointless. And I'm sure If I went to a FTMS race I would see people crashing. The FTMS videos on you tube show plenty of marshal's running around tending to tubed cars.
I do however agree with you on the track- I personally would have soaked/flooded it continuously day and night for a week to prepare the clay for the race. Then a mist every 1/2 hour on practice day and between each class religiously on race day.

The MORL series is larger and has drawn entries from a much wider level of drivers, so trying to compare both series is pointless. And I'm sure If I went to a FTMS race I would see people crashing. The FTMS videos on you tube show plenty of marshal's running around tending to tubed cars.

im just sayin when i go to a morl race i expect to win or to finish a close second to james when i go to a FTMS race i am having a good day when im in the top three

im just sayin when i go to a morl race i expect to win or to finish a close second to james when i go to a FTMS race i am having a good day when im in the top three


*VERY* good day

Why should only 8th sclae drivers have to marshall 8th scale, Can we say we don't want to marshall novice, or stock truck because it is too slow and not exciting?

I would say if you don't want to marshall 8th scale then DON'T!!, especially if you are a volunteer.

Most of the 4 wheel guys are capable of marshalling 8th scale without problems, and I don't see why 8th scale should be limited to only 8th scale driver marshalls.

I also dont understanding why 8th scale is so problematic with marshalls, when they've been ran at washtenaw all winter for a few years with next to no problems.

damn right, we have left everything the same for years and now you decide to piss and moan about it. forremi11 has the right idea.

Oh yea, thanx to Tim Brink for suckin off my generator all day, not even a tip, lol. But I have to admit, he gave me a dog bone for my broken losi so i can run the Regionals this weekend, well, I had to pay for it, lol.



Thanx Tonia, you are awsome, the chilli was great, didnt even make me sweat, perfect, lol. Great pics BTW.





Great videos, you can really see how bad the track was blown out in the stk buggy A main, wow!!!



I know this dude too, I was running second behind Champy at Stateline, this kid took me out instead of lifting just a little, slower is faster dude. I confronted him just to say have a little respect for peeps lapping him, he had the nerve to tell me he was lapping ME and I should have gotten out of his way, lmfao, NOT COOL DUDE!
[edited] Link to a picture that is demeaning

I will post this ONE last time, HobbyTalk is not a place for this type of trash talking. If you have a problem with someone, take it to email. I will not ask again. There are some new members that have the same IP address which means they are coming from the same household. I can and will eliminate these problems if they continue to happen.

One 3 day ban handed out for inappropriate posting.

I have a lot of thoughts to add, but will sort it out for later, maybe...

In the meantime, the short version. For now, let's consider the wise moves by Dan at Washtenaw. Dan practically invented this 1/8 electric racing class, and the track proven efforts over the last several years have greatly helped it develop into the growing thing that it is. They are fast, with killer acceleration that the gas powered rigs just don't have. Dan's policy was no kids (with one exception that I recall, Garrett, and he was pretty good), and no one in general, marshaled 1/8 scale races unless they were experienced. When there was someone who wasn't as experienced as others, efforts were made to place them in a less intensive (potentially dangerous) location.

Loony - thank you for steering the conversation back to the track conditions and not the people. If one wants to review the A-Main tape they will see a few cars on occasion get loose, spin around, jump the pipes, and then get righted and continue on - balls to the wall. Same thing will hold true for any other of the A-Mains all season long, its the nature of the beast. Singling out one (young) driver and NOT acknowledging the others as part of the same subject just isn't fair... Calling attention to the general issue of safety is a valuable discussion, but then it isnt new to electric 1/8 scale cars. While they are faster, I'm sure the same issue is just as relevent to the Nitros. Put the nitro 1/8 buggies on the same small track, built against a wall that limits freedom of movement, with few and small marshal island safe zones in the interior of the track, and we would have the same problems.

Now, I'm not saying the Battlefront track isn't workable, actually I like it quite a bit. It is small for 1/8 scale racing. But, with a few minor changes, the safety issues could be improved. And, I LOVE that track for Slash and SC, and also with a little TLC it would be a bit more to the liking of the 1/10 buggy and truck folks who like a "better groomed" racing surface. I for one liked the pot holes and rough spots, but that's just me (wish I would have been able to run, but that's another story)...

I will post this ONE last time, HobbyTalk is not a place for this type of trash talking. If you have a problem with someone, take it to email. I will not ask again. There are some new members that have the same IP address which means they are coming from the same household. I can and will eliminate these problems if they continue to happen.

One 3 day ban handed out for inappropriate posting.

Its not the same person, just the family of the driver that was complained about all defending their family member.

I have a lot of thoughts to ad, but will sort it out for later, maybe...

In the meantime, the short version. For now, let's consider the wise moves by Dan at Washtenaw. Dan practically invented this 1/8 electric racing class, and the track proven efforts over the last several years have greatly helped it develop into the growing thing that it is. They are fast, with killer acceleration that the gas powered rigs just don't have. Dan's policy was no kids (with one exception that I recall, Garrett, and he was pretty good), and no one in general, marshaled 1/8 scale races unless they were experienced. When there was someone who wasn't as experienced as others, efforts were made to place them in a less intensive (potentially dangerous) location.

Loony - thank you for steering the conversation back to the track conditions and not the people. If one wants to review the A-Main tape they will see a few cars on occasion get loose, spin around, jump the pipes, and then get righted and continue on - balls to the wall. Same thing will hold true for any other of the A-Mains all season long, its the nature of the beast. Singling out one (young) driver and NOT acknowledging the others as part of the same subject just isn't fair... Calling attention to the general issue of safety is a valuable discussion, but then it isnt new to electric 1/8 scale cars. While they are faster, I'm sure the same issue is just as relevent to the Nitros. Put the nitro 1/8 buggies on the same small track, built against a wall that limits freedom of movement, with few and small marshal island safe zones in the interior of the track, and we would have the same problems.

Now, I'm not saying the Battlefront track isn't workable, actually I like it quiet a bit. It is small for 1/8 scale racing. But, with a few minor changes, the safety issues could be improved. And, I LOVE that track for Slash and SC, and also with a little TLC it would be a bit more to the liking of the 1/10 buggy and truck folks who like a "better groomed" racing surface. I for one liked the pot holes and rough spots, but that's just me (wish I would have been able to run, but that's another story)...

if they watered the track the there would of been traction so they could they keep it straight and not hop the pipe

Its not the same person, just the family of the driver that was complained about all defending their family member.
I figured as much. I have been reading the thread and posted a warning. I only took action for things that were posted after that warning... it wouldn't have matter who posted the offending post, the same would have happened no matter who it was.

I figured as much. I have been reading the thread and posted a warning. I only took action for things that were posted after that warning... it wouldn't have matter who posted the offending post, the same would have happened no matter who it was.


Yeah I know, Your just doing you're job, and that photo was un-needed.

Hello, I happen to also know who you are talking about, but have to disagree.

I have raced with this person for the last two years and I would say that they are a pretty good driver. Now after saying this He can have bad races and we all do for that matter.

He is sometimes a little anxious but he is a good driver and knows when he is driving too hard.

Isnt it possible that maybe he had tires that were the exact opposite for the track and that made him appear to be out of control?

I know I had tires that didnt work for crap, and was struggling to keep my car turned in the right direction, especially in my 4wd main.

I think that maybe some of the crazy driving can be blamed on the track surface, and the "Track Maintenance" that was done. By my second heat of 8th scale it was pretty bad.


Just saying, just because someone has a bad day or isnt setup for a track, doesn't make them a bad driver and doesnt mean they deserve to be criticized publically.

I haven't been able to log in to hobby talk for a few days, I see a lot has happened since my post. I'm not trying to get anyone feelings hurt, just was sharing my opinions about a drivers style.

Because you came to his defense, I assume we are talking about the same person. I'm not here to talk [edited]t and I wont get into much detail, but your family member, or you for all we know, had a wild trigger finger. And not only this race, He was like that every race this season. I know because I attended them all. If he was on the track, it was balls to the wall no matter what. I was simply pointing out that hes a very unsafe driver and almost injured a marshal in the process this time. Hes going to feel pretty bad when he hits someone with his radical driving.

His problems this weekend had nothing to do with tires, track conditions, setup or anything else for that matter. Reckless driving was the issue.

But maybe he can learn from all of our constructive criticism and clam down a little bit. And maybe next year he will be a better driver for it. Good luck to you and your family of racers. :thumbsup:

I was simply pointing out that hes a very unsafe driver and almost injured a marshal in the process this time.

Just as a matter of clarity, we're clear that the marshal that got run into was during a different race than the one the young man was driving in?

Just as a matter of clarity, we're clear that the marshal that got run into was during a different race than the one the young man was driving in?

I'm not talking about the gentlemen that got hit in the main. That was just an accident that couldn't have been avoided. If I recall correctly it was a qualifier I was watching where the young man was on the throttle in the marshals hands.


I don't even think he was in that A-Main actually. He could have been in the B. I don't know his name and am only guessing by looking at the results and points for the season. And this is assuming we are all talking about the same person. Its hard to even say. :confused:

I'm not talking about the gentlemen that got hit in the main. That was just an accident that couldn't have been avoided. If I recall correctly it was a qualifier I was watching where the young man was on the throttle in the marshals hands.


And this is assuming we are all talking about the same person. Its hard to even say. :confused:

Yep - just making sure we all understand. Even with an A-Main driver at the controls, people can get run into by accident.

There have been some differing opinions in the last day about "couldn't be avoided" - and it seemed some folks lumped the whole discussion on one young man's shoulders. It wasn't, rarely is so simple.

And young drivers do improve with age, especially with good coaching...

I'm not talking about the gentlemen that got hit in the main. That was just an accident that couldn't have been avoided. If I recall correctly it was a qualifier I was watching where the young man was on the throttle in the marshals hands.


I don't even think he was in that A-Main actually. He could have been in the B. I don't know his name and am only guessing by looking at the results and points for the season. And this is assuming we are all talking about the same person. Its hard to even say. :confused:


Just to clarify, It is not me and I am a good friend of the driver, that being said, He may be an agressive driver, and I did not see the thing when his car was in the marshalls hands, but I have never seen him hurt anyone and he DOES drive smart when he has to. He knows how to drive and is extremely fast when he can keep the car going where it needs too.

Time to change the subject.... now.

[edited] Link to a picture that is demeaning


Hey Hank, PM me please, LMK what this was all about, ok? Thanx, we missed you at BFG, sucks you had to work, its allways fun racing with you, thanx again.

Apple

Don't forget to thank Tim Brink too.......

Lol, now I get it, I would have still taken 2nd overall by 1 point if it wasnt for Tim getting in your way, lol.

maybe if you would let the faster car by you this kind of a STUPID mistake wouldn't happen

Really? I had no Idea you were faster, you just came out of nowhere, prob cut the corner and PEELED me, and you little kids say im not a nice driver, lol, very funny, grow up!

honestly guys this is the morl series it isnt exactly filled with the greatest drivers exspecially compared to the FTMS so you gotta expect people to be crashing and marshalls getting hurt. and you can definitly blame the track for most of it exspecially the leaf blower guy hoplessly blowing dust all over into your eyes if for some reason i go there next year im bring my goggles for sure

Ok, I am a past Roar National Champion.... hmmmmm. Mike Champ? Jason Jakubsiac? Steve Shaw(1/8 TQ) I quallified 2nd, where were you? We have alot of great drivers. If you dont like us, dont come!

Isnt Possible that you are not as nice of a driver as you think. I can personally recall the 8th scale a main at Jones when a particular driver was acused of jumping the pipe when they got a head of you. They Also STAYED ahead of you for the entire race.

Really? This is pure childish behavior.

Your right I didn't notice. I rarely pay attention to those who don't finish a race. I will however from now on pay more particular attention to the DNF's. And I'm pretty sure the people running stock truck are running it because they want to so they might care.

Hey 92Z28, you think I cant drive mod? Really? I run stk truck because I like it, I dont appreciate the B S you put on here, what is your problem?
You bring out your stk truck, or stk buggy, We will see how good you think you are, Wow, dude really, grow up! Who's the 2 year old posting some type of pic that got him banned? What was the pic?
I gave my opinion, obviously this kid has Pissed off alot of peeps, It doesnt matter what you guys say, I will still race and have fun, thats what its about, FUN!! So say what you will.

Yeah I know, Your just doing you're job, and that photo was un-needed.

PM me the link, this pic was intended for me, I want to see what it is.

PM me the link, this pic was intended for me, I want to see what it is.


I personally dont have it, sorry.


And It it time to change the subject, Hank said so.

Time to change the subject.... now.

how about talking about some good stuff like that awsome driver who took st and md truck way to go MURDOG!

Really? This is pure childish behavior.



There are a lot of opnions flying around.

We should focus on results, see Jones 1/8 A-Main page 6:

http://midwestoffroad.org/jonesresults2009.pdf

Seems the subject can't be changed so it's time to close the thread. Too bad a few have to wreak it for everyone else.