It is time to start a Product Support Thread for the new soon to be released (ae)10L5O Race Car. From all the reports on the General Discussion Thread on this car, it's going to be some piece of work.:woohoo:

need PICS.

We talked to the guys this past weekend at the Snow bird warm ups
And they told us it will be late this year before it is out for the average joe racer

pic from greenville

Looks cool. Same front end as the on-road car.

I 'm lookin forward to gettin my mits on one!!!!! ;)

is that the bmi pod and is that what will be on the new L5?

pic from greenville

Is that G Honey's ride?

No it's the pod for the R5O.

Yes it's G-Honeys car from Roseville.

:freak:No it's the pod for the R5O.

Yes it's G-Honeys car from Roseville.

how come the pods not blue and will it come with bump stops

No transponder mount?

No transponder mount?

The transponder is intended to mount on the front plate. There are holes for it there, Greg's transponder doesn't have any ears.

Roman; We're working on it.:wave:

in this picture it says keep this coupon whats that for and does it come with the kit. thanks for your promt replys.

Car looks good! :thumbsup:

cochran said they are shooting for april or may at the latest.. everybody needs to pay attention to the side shocks on this car they are exposed shafts... the shocks on cochrans car were super smooth.........

Sweet looking ride. My only question is, Is the rear pod on a off-set "T" ?

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how come the pods not blue and will it come with bump stops

Just guessing but I think this car is a work in progress, "prototype", thus the pod isn't anodized blue. Sean has stated before the reason the team has not posted any pics yet was because they were waiting on some anodized parts before the photo shoot on the car, just guessing though.

Looks like the thru shaft means that as the shock is compressed, internal pressure doesn't increase inside the body (more shaft enters on one side, the same amount of shaft leaves out of the other) ???

whats with the midship body posts?

Sweet looking ride. My only question is, Is the rear pod on a off-set "T" ?


No, the T-plate is on center with an off-set pod.

Looks like the thru shaft means that as the shock is compressed, internal pressure doesn't increase inside the body (more shaft enters on one side, the same amount of shaft leaves out of the other) ???

You are correct, we call them "constant volume". This design requires no volume compensation. They were originally designed for the 1/12th car that required a shock to work in both directions and stii feel the same. We tested them on the oval car and they work well, so we are going to go with them.

whats with the midship body posts?

We use them to brace the body at the back of the hood. It makes the body more stable and helps prevent the tires from dragging in the top of the front fenders.

in this picture it says keep this coupon whats that for and does it come with the kit. thanks for your promt replys.

I'm not sure that might be Greg's raffle prize ticket... I'll have to check and see if we can get some of those to put in the kit.:wave:

Sean

The new car can not get here soon enough. I just purchased a BL Novak system for my L4 ( standard rear pod) and I have quit racing until the new car arrives. I can get the motor in by either breaking the sensor wire or purchase an aftermarket pod, neither of which I want to do. So now I am sitting out of the game until the car comes out. Since the eighties when Associated came out with the original gold tub RC 10, I have used Associated Kits, but all I can do now is wait and miss races. I have even thought of prepaying the supplier that we deal with for them to not even unpack the car but to just express it to me. I do know that the car will will have leading edge features the other manufactures will copy, making the wait worth it, but it sucks. Buy the best and lap the rest.

Gerald

Are The Side Shocks Already On The Market?

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Sean

The new car can not get here soon enough. I just purchased a BL Novak system for my L4 ( standard rear pod) and I have quit racing until the new car arrives. I can get the motor in by either breaking the sensor wire or purchase an aftermarket pod, neither of which I want to do. So now I am sitting out of the game until the car comes out. Since the eighties when Associated came out with the original gold tub RC 10, I have used Associated Kits, but all I can do now is wait and miss races. I have even thought of prepaying the supplier that we deal with for them to not even unpack the car but to just express it to me. I do know that the car will will have leading edge features the other manufactures will copy, making the wait worth it, but it sucks. Buy the best and lap the rest.

Gerald

You should be able to put the brush-less into the L4, you just have to remove one of the pod plates to fit it in. It's not very convient but at least you should only have to do it once.

Are The Side Shocks Already On The Market?

Yes, they are available, AE#4666, complete shock. Keep in mind they use metric hardware.

pod picturz look like it cant handle a lot of gear. is there enough room for big pinnions? is this the pod from the onroad car?

pod picturz look like it cant handle a lot of gear. is there enough room for big pinnions? is this the pod from the onroad car?

No this is a whole new pod for just for the oval car.
I ran 47/100 last week end. Greg told me what gear we needed for 21.5t and we made the pod to fit that. I don't remember for sure but I think it was 53/96.

I think we need to get the new car to CT and see how it will handle to high banks of Turn 4 R/C Speedway. This years 20th annual WINTERBLAST would be a great test for the new Chassis. What do you think SeanC42? Lets see if the new chassis has what it takes to tame the Banked Beast of the Northeast.

Ridge,

I've been running brushless in a L4 for over a year with a STOCK Pod, it wasn't a problem. Also have the BL setup in a couple old L3's for VELO racing...17.5 and 21.5 /LIPO setups with HUGE Gear ratios... the gearing is a little tight, but they work

I have to admit, that is a pretty neat shock. I think that is the first really new thing I have seen on shocks in a LONG TIME.

Good exploded view here:

http://order.aeteam.net/product_detail.asp?Itemcode=4666

I have to admit, that is a pressy neat shock. I think that is the first really new thing I have seen on shocks in a LONG TIME.

Good exploded view here:

http://order.aeteam.net/product_detail.asp?Itemcode=4666

It's actually not new, I think AE might have had a similar shock design in the 70s on some 1/8th car. I'm pretty sure some other manufactures have tried a similar set up as well, but that was probably in the 80s or early 90s.

It is cool though.:thumbsup:

I don't remember seeing anything like that back then, but it may have not been tried in the late 80's and 90's when I was running before.

Is the front end independantly adjustable or are they tied together with that bottom plate? Also can the new front end fit in the current mounting holes or is it totally different?

Sean, what would be your best guess as to when the new car will be released, I've read a couple of different "he said" post on the release date, but could we get it straight from a "Factory Team" guy?

this may be a silly question but , Will there be a converion kit for those who run the L4o?

I Know there wasn't much differance between the L3o's and the L4o's.

this may be a silly question but , Will there be a converion kit for those who run the L4o?

I Know there wasn't much differance between the L3o's and the L4o's.

i have been just messing with sean but i will try to help him out with some of the questions since he is so busy with the snowbirds comeing up. i race with greg weekly and have had my hands on it as much as anybody. the car is completly different from front to back it would take a whole kit to make it a conversion therefore im sure there wont be. everything on the car has been well thought out and such a new design for where the sport is going with batt, and motors, ect. if you look closly the shocks screw down instead of snapping ball cups. there is a new looking shock mount that is offset to the left but still holds the shock in the center the front end is fully adjustable from tread width to the upper arm lengths to fully adjust your rollcenter and change the camber gains without any aftermarket parts.there are some changes to the t plate and pivot ball i will let sean explain when ready and i think all the hardware is metric wich is a big change the pod has some real detailed things that the pictures dont do justice. there also some cosmetic changes from the car in the photo so sean will have some new pics soon when all the work is done and BLUE HAHA SEAN well i hope that helps.

Thanks Roman. Does that mean that the "ticket" will come with all the cars? :D

I don't remember seeing anything like that back then, but it may have not been tried in the late 80's and 90's when I was running before.

Is the front end independantly adjustable or are they tied together with that bottom plate? Also can the new front end fit in the current mounting holes or is it totally different?

Each corner is independently adjustable. There are 5 holes on the LF and 4 on the RF. There is .5mm of wheel base stagger built into the car. Also we have ride height shims available in 0.5mm, 1.0mm, and 2mm. so it is very easy to adjust ride height. Another area of adjustment is front end width, you can put shims between the arm and the bulkhead. This is completely new and we haven't had time to explore this adjustment yet.

I didn't mean to imply that people had used them for side shocks on pan cars. I think it was some kind of mono shock front suspension that was tested.

I've told a couple of people when "I" hope the car will be ready. Officially we don't have all the info yet to know for sure when it will be ready. I"ll be sure to let everyone know once we get it figured out.

Manimal; Roman is correct. Other than the rear axle, hubs, and bearings everything else is all new. When we went from the L3 to the L4 most of the car stayed the same except for some graphite parts so converting was an option.

Ok Sean, No problem was just wondering

sean are the t-plate piviot balls and cups off the r5?if so what are the part #s also is the frontend lower a-arms have the same bolt patteren as the plastic ones?

sean are the t-plate piviot balls and cups off the r5?if so what are the part #s also is the frontend lower a-arms have the same bolt patteren as the plastic ones?

Pivot ball #4637
Pivot socket # 4650
Yes same parts as 12R5.

New front end will NOT bolt onto old front end chassis.
Bolt pattern different and different screws.

Sean what class or classes are you running at the birds and how do you think the new car will work there?

Pivot ball #4637
Pivot socket # 4650
Yes same parts as 12R5.

New front end will NOT bolt onto old front end chassis.
Bolt pattern different and different screws.

Wonder if it will become the new standard front end that everyone uses like the current one is?

Do they sell the front end as a kit?

Bill

Sean what class or classes are you running at the birds and how do you think the new car will work there?

I'm going to run Pro (10.5t) Mod and 17.5t lipo. I feel very confident the car will be good, just not as positive that I will have the motor/battery/charging/warming thing as dialed.

It was easier for me when it was full mod as the car working right was the most important part and it was easy to make too much power.

Now it's pull the trigger, steer and hope nothing gets in the way.:woohoo:

Wonder if it will become the new standard front end that everyone uses like the current one is?

Do they sell the front end as a kit?

Bill

We currently do not have a complete bag front end.
We have had a few OEMs inquire about it and it is being discussed. I don't know the conclusions of those discussions.
If anyone is interested I can post the indivdual numbers for the front end.
I think it only takes about 8-10 parts to build.
The king pins, steering blocks, springs and pivot balls are the same as current front end.

Hey Sean I'll Take Your Old Chassis Off Your Hands. Ha! That One Looked Pretty Good To Me. In My Hands, Tat's A Different Story.

Hey Sean I'll Take Your Old Chassis Off Your Hands. Ha! That One Looked Pretty Good To Me. In My Hands, Tat's A Different Story.

Thanks!