http://aedownloads.com/press/in_103108_lrp.pdf

does anyone know for sure when these will be readily available??? ive heard that since they advance timing, they might not be 100% legal..

Why wouldn't they be legal? Every other speed control other than Novak is changeable.

LOL they will be in hobby shops this week is what i was told!

nothing illegal about them...unless they are not approved by your track or series...

LOL they will be in hobby shops this week is what i was told!

nothing illegal about them...unless they are not approved by your track or series...

im just sayin i didnt know if they were allowed yet by the advanced timing portion of it. i dont care, i know i want one!!!

As you might imagine they are in very high demand. We have received 1 shipment already and they were all sold before they arrived. The second shipment is due in any day and the same situation, more on order than what we are receiving. I am trying to get another order in before Snowbirds. No guarantee on that though.

There are no rules regarding motor timing with brush-less, that I am aware of, so there should be no problems with legality.

See my reply in the oval general discussion.

http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?p=2651202#post2651202

awesome, thanks! yeah, i still dont know how i double posted that, my fault. but i know i deff want one as soon as they are available. thanks again!!!

So will this version still spontaneously self shut-off if used with a Futaba Fast system?

So will this version still spontaneously self shut-off if used with a Futaba Fast system?

excellent question!

is this good for 21.5 or just 17.5 motors

It will work for both. G-Honey has been testing it for a few weeks in both classes, and it works great in both.

excellent question!:freak:

I have used one for two weekends of racing with no problems.

Nexus racing had them 2 weeks ago.... They were cheap too

As you might imagine they are in very high demand. We have received 1 shipment already and they were all sold before they arrived. The second shipment is due in any day and the same situation, more on order than what we are receiving. I am trying to get another order in before Snowbirds. No guarantee on that though.

There are no rules regarding motor timing with brush-less, that I am aware of, so there should be no problems with legality.

Sean you have a pm

So will this version still spontaneously self shut-off if used with a Futaba Fast system?

I think the real answer to that question is "When is Futaba going to fix the problem with their receivers shutting off?"

I think the real answer to that question is "When is Futaba going to fix the problem with their receivers shutting off?"

Sean you've got a PM.

Steve.

I think the real answer to that question is "When is Futaba going to fix the problem with their receivers shutting off?"

Just off the phone with Futaba Tech Support, they claim that they have not heard about this problem. I find that amazing. LRP should have already notified Futaba about this! But it seams that all they want to do is point fingers and not actually try to find a solution to correct this issue. So instead I had to call Futaba and inform them of this problem that we have been having for over a year now. I personally have sent in almost a dozen LRP speedo’s for repair, they repeatedly said no problems, it’s your receiver. I also know of about 50 others in Florida that have had similar problems. Some have changed brands, I guess I will too.

Also, if the receiver is shutting off, why I still have control of the steering??

Just off the phone with Futaba Tech Support, they claim that they have not heard about this problem. I find that amazing. LRP should have already notified Futaba about this! But it seams that all they want to do is point fingers and not actually try to find a solution to correct this issue. So instead I had to call Futaba and inform them of this problem that we have been having for over a year now. I personally have sent in almost a dozen LRP speedo’s for repair, they repeatedly said no problems, it’s your receiver. I also know of about 50 others in Florida that have had similar problems. Some have changed brands, I guess I will too.futaba is good for an answer like this. when the 1/4 scalers were having a problem with the fasst system overheating and causing your car to take off on it's own they were contacted and told of this problem and later on they claimed they never heard of this being a problem with the fasst.

Tom I understand your frustration with having problems, and I don't want to get into a he said, she said. We do know that there are problems with Futaba FAST Rxs, we have seen it in 1/8th where there is no SC to blame. I have had some racers that had a similar problem and would change multiple SCs and still have the same issue. Once they took out the FAST Rx the problem went away. I also know plenty of guys who run FAST and have no problems, Paul Lemiuex is one. So we are dealing with a very specific issue that is almost impossible to diagnose for both Futaba and LRP.

I wish I had a happy answer to your question and I don't want to lose customers but at the same time I understand if you feel you have to change brands to eliminate your problem.

I've used LRP ESC's with the FAST system with no problems, haven't seen any problems like that at our local track either. This is running 4-cell and Lipo both. Myself and many others always run the Spectrum capacitor that plugs into the RX, not sure what it does exactly, I was just told to run it with LRP ESC's, and have never had any issues. Something to try!

Info on the 1/4 scalers and Futaba Fast system -

http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=219133

Tom I understand your frustration with having problems, and I don't want to get into a he said, she said. We do know that there are problems with Futaba FAST Rxs, we have seen it in 1/8th where there is no SC to blame. I have had some racers that had a similar problem and would change multiple SCs and still have the same issue. Once they took out the FAST Rx the problem went away. I also know plenty of guys who run FAST and have no problems, Paul Lemiuex is one. So we are dealing with a very specific issue that is almost impossible to diagnose for both Futaba and LRP.

I wish I had a happy answer to your question and I don't want to lose customers but at the same time I understand if you feel you have to change brands to eliminate your problem.

Sean, I am not trying to cause trouble and I do honestly believe that the LRP ESC’s are the best that is available today. It’s just that myself and several others are having this problem and we want a solution. I have been using a capacitor with my receiver like you suggested, and that has helped. This situation is not happening with any other brand of ESC while using the Fasst system, only yours, so my take on the situation is this: it seems that the ESC is going into some type of fail-safe mod, maybe the parameters that it sees to send it to the fail-safe need fine tuning?

yeah, for some reason, my LRP sphere died out on me last night. it has a very bad stuttering problem. kinda upset with it, tried everything to fix it, but looks like ill have to send it in for repair on it...

Just off the phone with Futaba Tech Support, they claim that they have not heard about this problem. I find that amazing. LRP should have already notified Futaba about this! But it seams that all they want to do is point fingers and not actually try to find a solution to correct this issue. So instead I had to call Futaba and inform them of this problem that we have been having for over a year now. I personally have sent in almost a dozen LRP speedo’s for repair, they repeatedly said no problems, it’s your receiver. I also know of about 50 others in Florida that have had similar problems. Some have changed brands, I guess I will too.

You would think after the first say 5 or 6 or 9 times it happened that you would pick another speed control. I guess the LRP must be a huge advantage or you would have dumped them a long time ago. This is one of the best endorsements i have ever seen

You would think after the first say 5 or 6 or 9 times it happened that you would pick another speed control. I guess the LRP must be a huge advantage or you would have dumped them a long time ago. This is one of the best endorsements i have ever seen

my LRP sphere is the first ever LRP i have owned, and i saw a 2+ lap advantage with mine going from Novak-GTB. i think mine was just a fluke but i would not give up on LRP just yet, although i hear that some of the LRPs do not like spektrum for some reason...

Tom I understand, we both want the same thing, you not having problems. The thing that everyone needs to remember is that AE is just a distributor for LRP. We do not design or manufacture any of the products. We do our best to help everyone who has problems but in the end we have to rely on information from LRP-Germany. The situation with the FAST rx has been relayed to them and they cannot replicate the problems. Some times I wonder if there is a specific batch of receivers that have this issue. Have you ever tried another Rx? In defense of our Techs here when they get the SCs that have shutdown when they test them on our bench tester they typically have no problems. They then install them in a car and run them and again there is no problem, what is the repair guy supposed to do? If you can't find the problem you can't fix it.

Another thing everyone needs to keep in mind is that all electronics are much more complex than they were when we just used FM and brushed motors. The SCs are probably 4x more complex than they used to be, the same goes for the 2.4Ghz radios.
There is a lot of electronic signals being processed and when either component gets a signal it doesn't understand they "freak out" and will cause a shut-down.

my LRP sphere is the first ever LRP i have owned, and i saw a 2+ lap advantage with mine going from Novak-GTB. i think mine was just a fluke but i would not give up on LRP just yet, although i hear that some of the LRPs do not like spektrum for some reason...

The problems with the Spektrum usually related to running with 4 cell. The Rx would get a low voltage signal and "brown out" causing a loss of signal and then fail safe. Those issues were typically fixed with either a Rx pack or a capacitor plugged into the Rx to ensure there wasn't a voltage drop from a sudden current surge.

Since everyone has switched to lipo I haven't heard of Spektrum having any more problems. Also a year or so ago LRP upped the BEC output to help prevent this from happening when using 4 cell.

The problems with the Spektrum usually related to running with 4 cell. The Rx would get a low voltage signal and "brown out" causing a loss of signal and then fail safe. Those issues were typically fixed with either a Rx pack or a capacitor plugged into the Rx to ensure there wasn't a voltage drop from a sudden current surge.

Since everyone has switched to lipo I haven't heard of Spektrum having any more problems. Also a year or so ago LRP upped the BEC output to help prevent this from happening when using 4 cell.

ok, i did hear that alot of guys were havin probs with it with 4 cell, but never with lipo. i will work on some things and see if that is the prob. thank you for the help!!!

I forgot.
We got a shipment of the SCs this week going out to Dist. We also have another shipment of SCs on the way from LRP that are due in on Monday. After that gets shipped all the current orders we have should be filled. I can't tell you what shops will get them as we just ship to Dist., but if you have one on order with a hobby shop it should be in before you leave for the 'Birds.

I spoke with the repair people today and they reminded me of something everyone should check.

If you SC has been used alot and you run outdoors, on dirty tracks, or with foam tires try opening the case up and cleaning out any debris that is inside. You can use an old toothbrush or air pressure to clean the board. We see lots of returned units that are full of dirt and tire dust. Some times that debris can be conductive and cause a glich or shutdown by jumping across traces on the circuit board.

This same thing could hold true for Rxs.

Sean, its funny you mention that ........ what i do is setup the speedo etc, then put a piece of black electrical tape over the mode button etc to keep out tire dirt. I cant remember who told me they had taken the case off and had found that problem and we we're speculating that might cause a problem.

I know its not the cause of all problems, but like you said its one more thing we can do to help NOT have a problem.

Tape over the holes is a good idea.

I spoke with the repair people today and they reminded me of something everyone should check.

If you SC has been used alot and you run outdoors, on dirty tracks, or with foam tires ttry opening the case up and cleaning out any debris that is inside. You can use an old toothbrush or air pressure to clean the board. We see lots of returned units that are full of dirt and tire dust. Some times that debris can be conductive and cause a glich or shutdown by jumping across traces on the circuit board.

This same thing could hold true for Rxs.

does this void the warranty???

ive deff taped over them, but im sure there is still junk inside of it...

does this void the warranty???

I would only recommend this on a unit that is out of warranty.
Chances are you won't get that much stuff into a new unit.
I'm talking about SCs with a year or so of use.
Maybe sooner if you race a few times a week.

If you have a newer unit I would recommend tape over the holes to help keep as much debris out as possible.

9 days puffy until the hanius rip will be unleached..... Can a get a courtesy flush .. Have the golden unit ready to roll south ... See ya in Sunday for some bench racing .

Anybody have the SPX in stock??????

superior hobbies has them ins tock! tell em katf1sh sent ya for a dealio

i cleaned out my speedo, works perfectly fine now...

Superior Hobbies has over 35 in stock and more coming his way for the race .. Get themn while they are hot .. I think he said a lil over 200

ROCKET

Rocket=PM=Yip

Besides the profiles for "stock" racing, is the new speedo significantly different from a sphere competition 07 ?

I think profiles 1 thru 4 are the same the only new profiles are 5thru 8 .... It really get reved up on profile 8 .... Good in testing SRM

I think profiles 1 thru 4 are the same the only new profiles are 5thru 8 .... It really get reved up on profile 8 .... Good in testing SRM

the racket (SRM) testing profile 8

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3257/2469762171_c26d1b7cc6.jpg?v=0

huh huh dis is we wee fast . . . . . . . . z z z z z z z z z z z z

Now thats pretty funny !

my gawd that pic is worth 10ooo words! lol

the racket (SRM) testing profile 8

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3257/2469762171_c26d1b7cc6.jpg?v=0

huh huh dis is we wee fast . . . . . . . . z z z z z z z z z z z z

"...3:45, 15 seconds to go...and Miller is dumped!!! Go low on the back straight...keep it low, keep it low..."

I wonder what made him sleepy?!? :freak:;)

NOIW NOW TP you behave yourself .... The new speedo ran awesome in the 21.5 main ... if you look at lap times the KSG DEA ride was one fast mother

hey Rocket,
How about that rollout;);)