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grungerockjeepe 01-05-2009, 10:45 PM Ive seen a few of you guys using them on your customs, but is there anyone who has a complete listing of everything they make?
They are selling direct on EvilBay, but theyre in groups of 3, and the styles I want never seem to be in the combos I like for AFX/Tyco. And they have 2 styles with photo-etched inserts--BBS wheels and Conreros i think. Beautiful designs, but both have gold centers which I hate. Anyone know if theyre made with something else? aluminum, charcoal, black?
I know MEV has them and a listing, but its a craptastic B&W photo and doesnt really show much in the way of size comparisons. The T-jet stuff is fairly cut and dried as to whats available, but Id be using them on tycos (mostly curvehuggers and HP-7s, but a few 440s) as well as AFX/AW and Tomy. Are all the designs available for tyco/AFX?
HadaSlot 01-05-2009, 10:52 PM Ive seen a few of you guys using them on your customs, but is there anyone who has a complete listing of everything they make?
They are selling direct on EvilBay, but theyre in groups of 3, and the styles I want never seem to be in the combos I like for AFX/Tyco. And they have 2 styles with photo-etched inserts--BBS wheels and Conreros i think. Beautiful designs, but both have gold centers which I hate. Anyone know if theyre made with something else? aluminum, charcoal, black?
I know MEV has them and a listing, but its a craptastic B&W photo and doesnt really show much in the way of size comparisons. The T-jet stuff is fairly cut and dried as to whats available, but Id be using them on tycos (mostly curvehuggers and HP-7s, but a few 440s) as well as AFX/AW and Tomy. Are all the designs available for tyco/AFX?
I know JV is hip, anyone got a tip?
joez870 01-05-2009, 10:56 PM I recently scored a few of the vincent wheel auctions.
The wheels seem to be plastic or vinyl with a very high quality chrome finish to them. They press on square and snug. I will buy more of these as slot dollars allow.
slotcarman12078 01-05-2009, 11:14 PM I also bought 2 sets of 3 rims from that ebay seller.. Agreed they install true and tight. The skinny tjet sets don't have much in the traction dept, but they do clear an Aurora 63 vette body with minimal trimming of wheelwells. The wider sets grip decent, but I have noticed the (I know wobble city) RRR wheels do grip better... I can't say much about the bigger AFX/Tomy/Tyco wheel sets as I haven't bought them. The chrome wheels do look decent. The aluminum set are ok-ish. I don't care for the black wheels he has. I also agree that MEV need to do a serious upgrade to his MEV assortment, and how he portrays them... Honestly, I don't think he wants to sell very many of them, and the carpy pictures are to deter too many buyers from trying them.. Just a guess...
As far as the RRR wheels go... Looks aren't everything as usability is as important.. The 37 ford I got has RRR directional wheels with lowpro tires.. It runs smooth as heck.. Has anyone tried using the lopro tires with the other rims to see if the.. here it is Bill Hall.. yes, the visual still stuck in my head... :eek: "hound dog poopin razorblades" issue dissapates with the smaller tires? Another thing I noticed, be it may a bad thing in the traction dept., if you let the RRR tires get dirty, they smooth out pretty good.. I guess the dirt balances them...:lol:
Sorry if that's all the info I got, and for taking this thread off on a tangent.. We now return to your regularly scheduled Vincent wheel thread...
win43 01-05-2009, 11:15 PM The BBS do indeed have an etched insert. They come in gold and silver. I have purchased both from MEV, and even though his photos are of poor quality, the wheels themselves are beautiful. MEV also sells the tires for the skinnier fronts, but if you wanna use the wide rear rims standard AFX rear tires fit. Hope this helps a little.
grungerockjeepe 01-06-2009, 02:38 AM Ok, this is good info. At least the BBS rims arent just gold. And also, what axles do they fit? Im guessing if theyre for t-jets they wont easily work on Tyco, even though it says they can work.
roadrner 01-06-2009, 08:58 AM I recently scored a few of the vincent wheel auctions.
The wheels seem to be plastic or vinyl with a very high quality chrome finish to them. They press on square and snug. I will buy more of these as slot dollars allow.
Joe,
Have a pic of the installed wheels? Haven't tried Vincents yet. :thumbsup: Dave
slotcarman12078 01-06-2009, 10:43 AM Sorry they aren't perfect pic's, but it's hard to get the camera to focus with all the shiney chrome..
http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/slotcarman12078/6b855503.jpg
Alpina in the skinny T Jet size.
http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/slotcarman12078/7a71dbd6.jpg
http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/slotcarman12078/03340f17.jpg
Narrow and wide versions ford.
http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/slotcarman12078/8b6fbf89.jpg
Narrow steel
http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/slotcarman12078/8d43b903.jpg
Wide version Corvette style.
http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/slotcarman12078/e9d410a4.jpg
Wide version halibrand
That's all I have at this time. I do plan on getting more when I can. Call me crazy, but I also plan on getting more RRR wheels too... I can live with the wobble since my driving is low speed anyway... I wasn't thrilled with the look of the halibrand in aluminum/silver and ended up painting the centers to match the vehicle. They look better to me like that, but that's just my personal taste...
UtherJoe
videojimmy 01-06-2009, 11:21 AM go to www.tjets.com for a listing
however, unlike RRR rims, they don't come with tires.
becareful putting on the BBS rims.... they have a shallow hole and it's easy to run the axel right through the rim. Also, the inserts sometimes pop out when running them. When that happens. I use a pin to drop a tiny bit of superglue on the rim before I put the insert back in.... or should I say... re-insert the insert?
RRR tires fit the fronts nicely, on the rears I use PVT tires
Bill Hall 01-06-2009, 02:01 PM Ujoe,
Try a flat black wash for some contrast, then buff off the excess. A little shading goes a long ways to bringing out the subtle details.
slotcarman12078 01-06-2009, 02:32 PM Good thinkin' Bill!! I didn't think of that!! With the now orange centers the wheels should really pop!! :thumbsup::thumbsup: I'll give it a shot...
UtherJoe
slotnewbie69 01-06-2009, 02:35 PM Ujoe,
Try a flat black wash for some contrast, then buff off the excess. A little shading goes a long ways to bringing out the subtle details.
another technique is called "drybrushing"you start with a base coat of the shade color,then carefully dust the top color across the details with a brush with most of the paint wiped off,hence the term drybrushing.its fast and brings all the details out,but there isn't enough paint on the brush to flow into the details.just don't use your best brushes for this,as it's hard on brushes.;)
Bill Hall 01-06-2009, 03:01 PM [QUOTE=slotcarman12078;2651678]Good thinkin' Bill!! I didn't think of that!! With the now orange centers the wheels should really pop!! :thumbsup::thumbsup: I'll give it a shot...
UtherJoe[/QUOTE
Watch that the contrast color doesnt reactivate your orange centers Joe!!!! Then you'll have mud (orange+black) and be mad.
I'll have to disagree on the dry brush trick for a painted center!!! While it is suitable for chromes I'd be wary on your freshly painted areas. Faster is NOT always better! I prefer a thinned mixture of testors flat black. This will naturally float off the high points and collect in the lower shady nooks and crannies. Any excess remaining on your high points will be a chalky black residue that will buff off easily with a q-tip when dry. If it takes another application to get the desired effect, then so be it.
Ideally no more than one or two thin layers will be required. As we dont know how your base orange and highlighting wash will react with each other it might be prudent not to go scratching around your carefully painted centers with a brush. Just drop the wash in carefully and let surface tension do it's job.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/3AF834A-94FC-4C53-B864-72B7DC11E-1.jpg
While not applied to a wheel here's some flat testors wash on gumball chrome of both the Dash and HW varieties. This represents two quick passes and a buff when dry. The Dash pipes are a little slaggy between the tubes under macro but are fine under normal viewing.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/89CED33-794D-4DB5-A500-75BEED398C95.jpg
Unwashed
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/7C81C91-468F-4D9F-A37D-2001BB20FC7E.jpg
Grill detail
slotcarman12078 01-06-2009, 03:15 PM I learned my lesson with the model train washes I have on hand... Alcohol based and dries quick. I used them on my pumper truck with no ill effects to the paint, but it ate through the decals faster than I could catch it. I'll just give them a quickie brush and leave it at that. One of these days I need to get cooking on all these projects sitting around collecting dust.. With my hands as jumpy as they are I'm fearful of accidently melting a hole in the body with the soldering iron.. between that and the "dropsies" I'm kinda at a standstill....
Wildstar 01-08-2009, 09:41 AM RRR tires fit the fronts nicely, on the rears I use PVT tires
(Insert dumb question here): PVT? Where can I find these? I'm in dire need of some tires for my Vincent BBS rears (which are, as somebody mentioned, about 400 times more beautiful than the MEV pics would lead you to believe). I'm finding that most slip-on sillies are too wide. Suggestions?
Also, I'm surprised nobody mentioned this, but Vincent wheels require a 0.063 axle -- even for the front wheels. It's not that big a deal -- just drill your chassis out a bit to accomodate -- but it's enough to turn some people off to them.
slotcarman12078 01-08-2009, 10:19 AM Ask and you shall receive!!! Provided I have the link to assist you! http://www.pennvalleyhobbycenter.com/slotcars/supplies/tires/siliconetires.htm As Bill Hall mentioned, they can be timmed, and shaped as desiredwith no ill effects..
Dranoel Dragon 01-08-2009, 09:51 PM I've seen mentioned here that RRR wheels are wobbly. Best way to mount wheels true is a wheel press. Now I know RRR's website says not to use a press. Reason being it will mar the detals and features of the wheels.
Here's a trick for you. Use a thin piece of rubber, like bicycle inner tube, cut to fit to the press isn't pressing directly on the wheels. Nor marring and the wheels go on straight and true.
slotcarman12078 01-08-2009, 10:25 PM I have noticed on some RRR wheels the tires are thicker in one area as opposed to the rest.. I'm talking from tread to rim dimension, not width. Maybe it's just my imagination but I can swear I've noticed it.. This is why I asked if anyone tried the low profile tires to see if there was a marked improvement in drivability.. The lowpros on the 37 ford I bought were smooth as silk in the track.. I guess I could swap tires from the 37 and try it myself... Duh!! I'm thinkin' finally!! :freak:
1976Cordoba 01-08-2009, 11:11 PM Here's a trick for you. Use a thin piece of rubber, like bicycle inner tube, cut to fit to the press isn't pressing directly on the wheels. Nor marring and the wheels go on straight and true.
Ahhh - I don't know. Seems easier to just press them on by hand and just gripe about them afterwards. :lol:
resinmonger 01-09-2009, 12:10 AM I've fixed up four cars with Vincent wheels thus far using stock TJet axles. These wheels can be pressed on by hand with little difficulty. The "A" size rears are fairly shallow. I cut a bit from each end of the axle to get the wheels near snug to the chassis. Pictures soon - have camera but can't find camera-to-computer cable.
So easy a Hutt can do it... :drunk::hat::freak::dude:
Jimmy49098 01-09-2009, 09:14 AM What do you guys use for axle spacers where needed on the vincent wheels? All the spacers I have are for .059 axles not .063
videojimmy 01-09-2009, 11:21 AM I use an assortment that I got from Neil's wheels
win43 01-09-2009, 02:35 PM (Insert dumb question here): PVT? Where can I find these? I'm in dire need of some tires for my Vincent BBS rears (which are, as somebody mentioned, about 400 times more beautiful than the MEV pics would lead you to believe). I'm finding that most slip-on sillies are too wide. Suggestions?
Also, I'm surprised nobody mentioned this, but Vincent wheels require a 0.063 axle -- even for the front wheels. It's not that big a deal -- just drill your chassis out a bit to accomodate -- but it's enough to turn some people off to them.
I was told by I forget who :confused: that AFX original rears fit the wide Vincent wheels.
OK I just checked..the AFX rear tire is a really nice fit :thumbsup::thumbsup:
win43 01-09-2009, 02:45 PM Ok, this is good info. At least the BBS rims arent just gold. And also, what axles do they fit? Im guessing if theyre for t-jets they wont easily work on Tyco, even though it says they can work.
The ones that MEV sells are for tjet (.063) axles. The axles are a little long for the Vincents so I usually take off about 1/16th of an inch on each end of axle. There is a seller on Ebay selling Vincents for other type cars. I know nothing about these wheels as I am almost strictly a tjet user.
grungerockjeepe 01-09-2009, 03:26 PM Win, that appears to be vincent wheels selling direct, as they are out of Germany. I won a set for tomy/tyco that he had up. A set of Fuchs, silver BBS, and ATS (look like stock Testarrosa wheels). Once I get em in Ill post a few thoughts/gripes/raves.
win43 01-09-2009, 03:30 PM Win, that appears to be vincent wheels selling direct, as they are out of Germany. I won a set for tomy/tyco that he had up. A set of Fuchs, silver BBS, and ATS (look like stock Testarrosa wheels). Once I get em in Ill post a few thoughts/gripes/raves.
COOL!!!! I'd be interested to know how their wheels for the other cars are.
videojimmy 01-09-2009, 06:36 PM I've used Vincents on just about everything... Tyco, Tomy, Afx, T-jets, even Life like.
There have been a few times where I had to fill the hole with glue, let is sit for a minute, then press it on to the axel, wait another few minutes and then run the motor... the hub self centers from the spinning... but like I said, I've only had to do that a few times. If you look at my customs, most of them have Vincent rims.
Dranoel Dragon 01-09-2009, 07:23 PM I have a couple Bauer cars on 440 and turbo chassis that came with Vincents. A lille skinny for my tastes on thos chassis but all in all pretty good.:thumbsup:
roadrner 01-09-2009, 08:56 PM Can't go wrong with the wash. It will give anything depth and detail that really pops. :thumbsup::thumbsup: rr
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