not the scarcest of models, but a nice bunch.:)
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8568/daftipperrw47grpvj8.jpg

Very nice :thumbsup:
I have only ever seen the mint green cab versions occasionally on ebay, never at a toyfair,so I rate it as uncommon! This colour was also used on the first run of the 68 Mercedes Minicoach, which is also htf outside the USA, and again one I have never seen yet ´ín the metal´.......and this colour is also similar to the first release of the 36 Opel Diplomat with the plastic baseplates.......I wonder why Lesney selected this colour for 3 new models and then dropped it after one short run ????(and a much larger number of boxes) .The 28 Lincoln is the car produced in large volumes which did use up stocks of this paint......

That shade of green is pretty awful. Leslie and Jack must have got a cheap deal! They used plenty of it on the 1e and 2d Mercedes Truck & Trailer. It goes okay with the orange canopies.

The 31c Lincoln was a real come-down, after they had made such a lovely deep metallic blue model. The colour is simply hideous on the DAF, paired with the (sorta) yellow container. That combination could surely be improved upon, (so they did) with the silver, I guess.

I wouldn't turn down a 36c Opel Diplomat in that colour, but I never saw one that didn't look like a pre-production casting trial that had no silver trim. One of those sea-green Opels would finish off my collecting budget, for a couple of years! ;)

Great to see a little more of the older stuff on this board :thumbsup:

I'm a little confused :confused:
According to Michael Stannard the early sea-green only came with a grey roof.
Her is my small herd of this model, they are all different variations, including a F-type box:

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j216/karl-e/47.jpg

Karl-E. Denmark

i would put the 68 coach as more difficult to find over the 47 tipper.
how do you rate e-bay as an indicator regarding models. i would imaging with rarity comes also comes forgeries.

would agree with maz hof 2001 about the aqua color and would also approach the aqua opel with extreme caution.:) sometimes i guess it was whatever paint was readily available.

karl-e, here is a list from late 1970, a couple of years after the release of the tipper. it was compiled during the run of the tipper referencing hundreds of models, most being new stock.
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/996/rw47dafcatnq3.jpg
a 1971 list with the addition of the sf model. with the removable i wouldn’t count out any variation, but i would pair the aqua model with the lighter roof as the earlier variation.
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4483/rw47dafcat1lz2.jpg
nice group of tippers, :thumbsup:i am not much of a box variation collector. here is a tipper in a later box too.:)
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1928/dattipperrw47boxlz5.jpg

Very nice cars. Very cool detail and very mint too!!!

Are those all variations??? I did not think there were that many. Cool photo.

I think that green Tipper Truck looks great.
And of course, I have impeccable taste, so I must be right! :)
These '60s models have enough charm and character to hold up to most ANY color.
One gets so used to seeing a certain casting in it's common colors, a less common color gives the vehicle a whole new flavor.
Thanks for the great pix and info Mountain & Karl.

- D. Praved -

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karl-e, here is a list from late 1970, a couple of years after the release of the tipper. it was compiled during the run of the tipper referencing hundreds of models, most being new stock.
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/996/rw47dafcatnq3.jpg
a 1971 list with the addition of the sf model. with the removable i wouldn’t count out any variation, but i would pair the aqua model with the lighter roof as the earlier variation.
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4483/rw47dafcat1lz2.jpg
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Moutain, interesting! these lists; where are they from, who compiled them?
Personally, I'm always very sceptical when it comes to changeble parts, it's very hard to determinate if it's a genuine variations, and even if it is, later changes can be made so easily.

The Mercedes Truck and Trailer was thought of for many years to have the variation with yellow canopy (even my Charlie Mack book has it listed as so)
Now, most collectors I know of, has the oppinion that the yellow canopy came later with the SF version. I tend to think that too.

Another model with changeble part is the Kennel Truck with it's clear ot tinted canopy, again acording to Stannard, the clear was only issued with the early white grille, however Mack lists both white and chrome grilled versions with both clear and tinted canopy. This is so confusing!
I know that no refrencebook is without errors, but I regard Stannard to be the most accurate.

What are your thoughts?

Karl-E. Denmark

the fist was from the club bulletin compiled by harold colpitts. it was from what he had in stock and in his collection. the way it was started was he would list models and encourage members to send in variations that were not on the list
the second was the 1970/71a.i.m. club catalog with the assistance of members.
while they may never be a listing that will be accurate with every variation, these listings were compiled with some organization and in real time, at least back to the mid to late 60’s. i tend to put some credence in these lists regarding removal parts.
one gentleman that owned a hobby shop as far back as the 50’s and also ran short lived matchbox club in the 60’s was tremendous help.:)

always heard of yellow canopies with the rw 1&2. never heard of a large quantity of blistered models with that variation. i don’t know if one blistered model would count as an intended factory variation.
checking my trucks, i do have one with a yellow canopy, which doesn’t mean anything, i might have put it on there years ago.

early lists i have list the #50 truck with white grill having both clear and tinted glass, but not the silver version having both caps.
i did hear of a #6 pickup having a clear canopy, not just switch from the #50 truck, but a white style cap in clear plastic.

i should have included this before, the namc listing.
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5536/tipper47namcsm0.jpg
this doesn’t really help with tipper. the list was compiled before the release of the tipper.
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9585/67listjn7.jpg

matchboxtom, they are not all variations, with some time i’m sure we could find something.:rolleyes:


lummox, i don’t let the colors bother me too much. not enough to toss the models in the trash.:dude:

The Mercedes Truck and Trailer was thought of for many years to have the variation with yellow canopy (even my Charlie Mack book has it listed as so)
Now, most collectors I know of, has the oppinion that the yellow canopy came later with the SF version. I tend to think that too.

Another model with changeble part is the Kennel Truck with it's clear ot tinted canopy, again acording to Stannard, the clear was only issued with the early white grille, however Mack lists both white and chrome grilled versions with both clear and tinted canopy. This is so confusing!
I know that no refrencebook is without errors, but I regard Stannard to be the most accurate.

What are your thoughts?

Karl-E. Denmark

Thanks to Lesney catalog photos showing the SF1a & 2a on a switch-a- track set with an orange canopy on the 2a we know that the factory did at least have some orange canopies left when SF production began.But unless somebody has a sealed blister showing an aqua 1 or 2 with yellow canopies then there is no absolute proof that these ever left the factory this way but it is possible rather than probable I would say.
The internet has devalued reference books like Stannard and Mack to such an extent that any collector wanting a complete and accurate as possible variation listing is best advised to print off the relevent sections from Nick Jones´s wonderful site -its all I use for Lesneys:wave:. Mountain´s AIM listings appear to be more complete than Stannard from what I have seen so far....