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JW Housley

going down to Minnreg today to run 17.5 lipo. first time out on carpet with the 189

Very impressed with the RS Pro and the new software. Ran one this past weekend and have another coming.

Thanks to JW and Dave for the help!

Very impressed with the RS Pro and the new software. Ran one this past weekend and have another coming.

Thanks to JW and Dave for the help!
:thumbsup:

I can't wait to get one...

I got a chance to run the 189 update this past weekend and all I can say is WOW! TQ and won in 21.5 at the Classic Hobbies Hangover race and finished 6th in the A-main of 21.5 at the BRL race in Ft. Wayne. The speedo performed flawless all weekend. I ran the boost between 10-15 most of the weekend and the sweet spot for me seemed to be around 12-13. That was with a Novak motor and geared to have the motor around 155-160 at 4 min. I had been a bit skeptical of whether or not I made a good decision in getting the Tekin before I had a chance to run the 189 update . Now after this weekend I can say I definitely made the right decision to get the Tekin. Keep up the good work guys.

When will the 189 update be available? I had one installed at the US Open Wheel by one of the Tekin Team drivers. It works great but I would like to be able to check my system. How can I get the new update?

Just wanted to let people know, I did have a issue with my rs(things happen) and just got off the phone with tech support and I have to say it was a pleasant experience!:thumbsup: Told me they are going to ship me out a replacement system promptly. This company is the real deal!! Thanks Tekin!!!! And thanks to Ty from Tech

Are the RS or Pro models spread spectrum for 2.4ghz radios

running the 189 software

is there any fix to the delay at the start

running 17.5/lipo in oval

both the 183 and 189 versions leaves me stuttering at the start of a main....

grab throttle and it just slowly sputters forward...

help me opra winfrey help me tom cruise

running the 189 software

is there any fix to the delay at the start

running 17.5/lipo in oval

both the 183 and 189 versions leaves me stuttering at the start of a main....

grab throttle and it just slowly sputters forward...

help me opra winfrey help me tom cruise

How much timing boost r u running? Which motor?

Fro urs needs more boost!!! lmao

boost at 7 trinity duo based motors

What Do You Have The Neutral Band Set Too?

i just want to say thanks to all the guys at tekin got to run the tekin 189 this weekend at the snowbirds warm up race and this speedo wont let you down my car had so much rip it was awsome.. i actually got to play with the timing boost a little and it was pretty cool.. in between one race i was going to jump up a couple teeth on my pinion gear but instead i decided to try out the timing boost so i bumped it up 4 point and it was just like puting on another tooth of gear on the car... it was great... i did qualify 7th overall but had a problem in the main and finished 8th..... not the speedos fault front end of the car got wacked and it slid my bumper over so the body was rubbing on the r/f tire....

hey kat what throttle profile are you running??? your experiencing something i have never seen with this speedo..

i will have to check the neutral band..it has done it with every version.

i will have to check the neutral band..it has done it with every version.


I had a similar problem until I set Neutral band to Minimum. It hasn't happened since.

boost at 7 trinity duo based motors

ok....how much timing on the motor? If you are running 30 on the motor you are running ALOT of timing which will cause the motor to stutter ....

He was running minimum nuetral width. i experience the same thing. you can not grip it and rip it and the sound of the horn. you have to do a quick roll into it.

On The Hotwire Program When You Move The Cursor Over The "timing Boost" Words It Reads Something Like "delivers Extra Rpms At High Speeds". So Does This Mean It Actually Turns The Boost Off When You Let Out Of The Throttle To Enter A Turn And Waits To Kick Back In Until Full Throttle.

He was running minimum nuetral width. i experience the same thing. you can not grip it and rip it and the sound of the horn. you have to do a quick roll into it.

I don't have the problem unless i run excessive timing...LOL

R U Running the trinity motor also Dave?

excessive timing

what is that?:freak:

what is that?:freak:

Anything higher than what I deem necessary..HAHAHAH:rolleyes:

I don't like the feel of anything above 42 total....:thumbsup:

i'd say the problem is either Motor related...and also caused by TOO much timing total.....at some point the motor is jerking at high timing setting...quite sure those thing happened on motors (like trinity's) set at 20deg timing(full)...NEVER had any kind of problem like that with my esc's.....actually the last time i experienced it was when i first ran the R1!

eric

Dave been running the 189 ver for about 3 week's never had that . Can mash it of the line i swear the frt wheel's come off the ground . Best speedo i have ever run Thank's TEKIN

true old timer...i would pull wheelies with my dirt cars at the USOWC!

Eric

i'd say the problem is either Motor related...and also caused by TOO much timing total.....at some point the motor is jerking at high timing setting...quite sure those thing happened on motors (like trinity's) set at 20deg timing(full)...NEVER had any kind of problem like that with my esc's.....actually the last time i experienced it was when i first ran the R1!

eric
I may be wrong, but the communication I have is that the DUO motors max at 30 deg timing....??

10,20,30 on the duo

oups...fat fingers...30 deg max on duo trinity's

Yah i was the same as Kat. 30 deg in the motor 10 on the boost

I think the magic number to shoot for is like 45

well...there is the problem Dave....the esc(like all out there) read 15 in advance...then you add the motor timing...then the boost....

you were at 15+30+10

that 55deg....way too much

we've been having good results with motor at 15+12(novak) + 15= 42

Eric

well...there is the problem Dave....the esc(like all out there) read 15 in advance...then you add the motor timing...then the boost....

you were at 15+30+10

that 55deg....way too much

we've been having good results with motor at 15+12(novak) + 15= 42

Eric


That is what I was saying all along....too much....back the timing down to the middle notch and play from there

little info into what i was thinking. the LRP guys are running the motor the same way and there timing ends up at 50.

But after playing with it i think that you guys are right back the motor down to 10 deg then set the boost at 10 gear and go.


good thing all have you guys at the birds to slap me when i want to get crazy lol

I am running the RS with 1.89 and tekin 17.5, pan car, 170 foot race line flat track, motor timing at 15, RS at 15. rollout of 2.60. motor is 150 degrees after 4 minutes..
I seem alittle slow down the straights. no one is running your system at the track I race. am I in the ball park or is it setup?

any help I would be greatful

Eric has alot of time on the tekin 17.5 but I think he'll agree to back the motor timing down to 12 deg



**** ATTENTION EVERYBODY SO EVERYBODY KNOWS AND IS PERFECTLY CLEAR THE RS HAS 15 DEG TIMING IN IT ALREADY***

so what ever you set that boost at you need to add that number to 15. now most motors also have internal timing. I can speak for the trinity duo based motors they have 10 deg internal so you add the external.

also on a side note the LRP speedo's have 20 deg timing in them not sure about the novak. but this will help get you in the ballpark when it comes to rollout.

got a question.i been running an rs in my short track car and its by far the best speed control i've ever run.i put a new rs in my velodrome car and when i soldered the power cap on,when i bent the wires to fit flush on top of the speed control,it felt like something popped.ran it the first race in december and was 2 laps off the pace.this wasent from handling.car worked great.qualified at a fast 26 laps,tq was 28 laps in 5 minuets.this was with a new novak 21.5.could the power cap be screwed up and would that effect top end?thanks in advance
dave werner

I would say that if something popped when u put in the cap it got over heated and blew .just my 2 cent's

would that cause lack of top end?

got me on that one.

shoot a email to the team manager rpike@mail.teamtekin.com

sent an email.thanks dave

No the cap shouldn't effect top end but CAN cause excessive esc heat build up. I would recomend replacing the cap if you think it's bad or damaged.

What were your esc settings?

ok

so i own a 225.00 esc that allows me to adjust the timming to the moon and back along with a ton of other features...

BUT......if i adjust 50 deg of timming into the esc and motor together i can't start like the other esc's on the market?

i can look at the 15 boost and i can look at the timming ring on my duo motor...

BUT if i adjust them over 50 deg of timming i'm out of luck because the esc can't handle the settings?

why offer the setting when i can't use it?

don't take me to dunkin donuts and than tell me i can only have one donut!!!!!!!!!!!

the spoiled chick on willy wanka said it best..."i want it all.and i want it now"

spx here i come

you have to look at it like a brushed motor. if your cranked the timing past the end of the magnet it wasnt really helping but hurting. if you look inside the bl can at the sensor why would you want to go past the end of the stator. the speedo can take the extra heat by adding timing in it instead of over timing the motor.

10,20,30 on the duo

ok so when I look at the 0 position on the "endbell" side of the duo, thats really 10 because of the "internal" timing of the motor, then 10 is really 20 (internal plus physical) and 20 is really 30 degrees of timing (20 physical and 10 internal ....... correct.

so if I set my duo @ 20 (10 physical + 10 internal = 20) plus the timing in my speedo (lrp, sorry guys.... lol) im at 40 degrees total timing correct ? ........ and thats about the sweet spot for these motors? .........if thats right i've been running @ 50 and maybe not helping myself at the end of the run it seems.....hmmm

Rich

i think what kat is saying. the other brands work just fine with the same settings

ok

so i own a 225.00 esc that allows me to adjust the timming to the moon and back along with a ton of other features...

BUT......if i adjust 50 deg of timming into the esc and motor together i can't start like the other esc's on the market?

i can look at the 15 boost and i can look at the timming ring on my duo motor...

BUT if i adjust them over 50 deg of timming i'm out of luck because the esc can't handle the settings?

why offer the setting when i can't use it?

don't take me to dunkin donuts and than tell me i can only have one donut!!!!!!!!!!!

the spoiled chick on willy wanka said it best..."i want it all.and i want it now"

spx here i come

I haven't seen ANY advantage running any more than 40ish total timing.....

Maybe the speedo companies are not equal as far as a degree of timing is concerned????

Can anyone tell me why the LRP TC runs better at profile 7 versus 8???? Also profile 6 is better than 8??????

How much timing is the LRP at Profile 6,7,8???

How much timing does the Novak have?

or just say the esc currently has limitations and if you go past a certain point bad things may happen! lol

so now we all have a super nice adjustable esc that in the end makes us all use the same setting? max on motor + 7 on boost = stutter on line

10 on motor and 11 on boost = go on the starting grid and what "everyone" should run...doesn't matter if "this" way is better..because the "other" way won't work...

errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

it seems that lrp and novak keep that a trade secret...or as best they can..

but it is no secret novak users have always needed more gear to run the same speeds when compared to the blue man groups esc.

i think it is cool that we are sharing this info. because in the end it is going to make us all faster. and the beatiful thing is that our speedo is updatable.

let me try to explain better what i am talking about.

with these settings 7 on the boost 2 on the motor. throttle profile 5 neutral width minimum . when i grab all that i can off the line the speedo goes but it is slow for a foot then takes off. but if i roll it (still hard but not as hard as I can) the car launches fine.
my experience with other brands is no matter what setting i can grip it and rip it.

maybe it is throttle profile 5. I am going to try throttle profile 3.