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dasmonkeyboy
02-21-2009, 11:54 AM
Anyone still planning on going down to bfg today??????????????????

mazdalarry04
02-21-2009, 02:45 PM
gonna be going down there here in a little bit.

dasmonkeyboy
02-21-2009, 02:50 PM
I will be down there about 3:30pm

mazdalarry04
02-21-2009, 02:55 PM
see u there just got some new gears and bigger motor. He He HE

ev2fast
02-21-2009, 04:29 PM
I thought it was tonight not today?

ev2fast
02-21-2009, 11:20 PM
Is it on or not, lets put some info out on this thread, I thought that's
why we started it.
Know one is going to come out for are gtgs or comps if they have no up
dated info to plan by.
Are we trying to help this segment of are hobby or let it fade away?


Come on! WTF

02CooperS
02-21-2009, 11:46 PM
I'll be there at 11am tomorrow Erv to do a little last minute tweaks and to setup a new course. I know Schane and Larry will be there tomorrow as well.

dasmonkeyboy
02-22-2009, 01:09 AM
I will be there about 11:00am tomorrow

mazdalarry04
02-22-2009, 02:56 AM
same here

Tdevil
02-22-2009, 11:12 AM
Comps are EVERY Sunday at 1:00. If there is anything different it will be announced, otherwise plan on EVERY Sunday at 1:00.

Everything else is just informal gtg and practice.

Hope that clears it up. Nice to see the course going to good use and lots of interest.

dasmonkeyboy
02-22-2009, 10:13 PM
Here are the scores for today's comp. 2/22/09

The Scenic Route run. By Andy AKA 02CooperS


Schane.......................................-2 points

Andy............................................2 points

Jim..............................................3 3 points

Larry...........................................52 points



The right Stuff run

Schane.........................................19 points

Andy............................................52 points

Erv..............................................6 5 points

Larry............................................2 12 points

02CooperS
02-23-2009, 12:28 PM
John - Here's a picture of what the Losi 1.9 wheels look like with the 2"dia. PVC pipe mounted on them. Just measure the width of the ribs on the wheels and cut the PVC an 1/8" wider than that. The PVC will press on to the ribs and stay w/o glue. One thing you will need to do is drill a hole through the PVC ring and wheel for a breather. I just used an 1/8" hole for mine.
http://i318.photobucket.com/albums/mm415/Altered_Images/RC%20Crawlers/DIY02.jpg

Tdevil
02-23-2009, 02:45 PM
Awesome. Thanks Andy. A picture is truely worth a thousand words.

dasmonkeyboy
02-24-2009, 08:54 PM
If anyone is interested, Erv and myself will be going down to Bfg on Wed 2/25/2009 to do some crawling. We will be there around 5:00pm

Tdevil
02-24-2009, 11:04 PM
Counter got rearranged tonight. Time to start building the 1.9 course!!!!!!

zmanr900
02-25-2009, 03:45 PM
Counter got rearranged tonight. Time to start building the 1.9 course!!!!!!


Good! a DIGless class. I'm gonna lean towards a realistic crawler, I'm thinking a scale truck, 1.9" I'm trying to figure out if i should build one from cratch, or get a Losi Mini, or a Tamiya CR-01 with 1.9" tires. or the F350 scale truck

Can't wait.

02CooperS
02-25-2009, 04:18 PM
A scale truck would be pretty sweet. I've read a lot of good reviews of the TCS X-Trail chassis, and it's only $40.

http://www.tcscrawlers.com/images/D/tcs_xtrail_di.jpg

02CooperS
02-26-2009, 01:00 PM
So, as the unofficial 1.9 course building guy does anyone have an objection of using a couple of "non-authentic" rock sections that could be mixed in with the smaller sized crushed stone we are looking into? I was planning on coming out Friday after work and laying out a tape line on the floor for a potential course boundary.

I'm thinking of something along the lines of these, but not as large.
http://fduwww.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pn4MY6LwYJ9dZcot17qMQl3ArwPj_SKbfzDGZSvD47N9DzVW m7f-xZ_8uR53nrrdcsdLfSSkIKR4/IMGP2606.JPGhttp://www.postimage.org/aV2zw8sJ.jpg

XXX KEITH
02-26-2009, 01:34 PM
Good! a DIGless class. I'm gonna lean towards a realistic crawler, I'm thinking a scale truck, 1.9" I'm trying to figure out if i should build one from cratch, or get a Losi Mini, or a Tamiya CR-01 with 1.9" tires. or the F350 scale truck

Can't wait.
buy a DIG!!! if you could afford a real life crawler u can certainly put a $50 dig in your TOY crwler no??

zmanr900
02-26-2009, 02:24 PM
buy a DIG!!! if you could afford a real life crawler u can certainly put a $50 dig in your TOY crwler no??


Well see, i'd rather spend the money on a real life crawler, because REAL jeeps DONT have DIG's on them. usually any NORMAL 4X4 can only lock in the front axle, limited slip or FULL locked posi. why try to interpit somthing that doesnt really even exist in real life, on a real rock crawler.

Now i seen a few cool looking rock crawlers on youtube last night when i was checking out videos. now those guys have rigs that look like toys and may have a home made way to speratley lock out any wheel. but 95% of people that rock crawl just has a standard 4 wheel locking set up, some have hydro powered lockers to engage and disengage one wheel peel from posi. not many even have that. The most realistic normal original way to rock crawl is with anything that has suspension and full locked axles, a motor, trans and transfer case.

Now try to take a life size DIG and mount it on a Jeep. Its unheard of. if i'm gonna por-tray a hobby. its gonna be as close to REAL as i can make it.

dasmonkeyboy
02-26-2009, 03:54 PM
Not trying to start an argument, but dig units are very common in the full size crawlers. They are called atlas II transfer cases. They have two sticks instead of one. The second stick puts the rear wheels in neutral then you use the parking break to lock the rear wheels to pivot around corners. That is why dig units are legal in the USRCCA rules. Because the dig unit is a model of the atlas II transfer case and the atlas is legal in 1:1 crawling competitions. An atlas II will fit in just about anything. Jeeps, tubers, trucks, blazers, even a Ford Ranger and Suzuki samurai.

If you don't want to take my word for it do a search on the atlas II. I have been crawling with my 1:1 jeep for 13 years. I know a little bit about them.

02CooperS
02-26-2009, 04:14 PM
Now try to take a life size DIG and mount it on a Jeep. Its unheard of. if i'm gonna por-tray a hobby. its gonna be as close to REAL as i can make it.

Nothing is unheard of. I made the mistake when I had my 1:1 Jeep of not buying a Rubicon and starting with that. So I was left with the dilemma of needing to drop $5k on decent axles before I could get an Atlas II, so I ended up just selling the whole thing and cutting my losses. I was lucky to get my $ back in resale that I had spent with my list of upgrades I had just done.

You beat me to it Monkeyboy! No bananas for you!

Atlas II install manual, reference page 43
http://www.atlas-tc.com/instructions/atlas.pdf

Hey Schane did you see the vid on Rccrawler of the losi crawling sideways using it's Dual Dig?
http://s20.photobucket.com/albums/b230/rc10sven/Battle%20Grounds/?action=view&current=100_0737.flv

dasmonkeyboy
02-26-2009, 04:28 PM
No I haven't. I will check that out. I sent you a pm.

dasmonkeyboy
02-26-2009, 05:10 PM
You beat me to it Monkeyboy! No bananas for you!

Atlas II install manual, reference page 43
http://www.atlas-tc.com/instructions/atlas.pdf



OOOOh OOOH AAAH AAAAH!!!!!!!! (Translation) MONKEY WANT BAANAANAA!!!!!!!!!! OR MONKEY FLING POOOO!!!!!!!!!!

ev2fast
02-26-2009, 06:57 PM
Went with the proline chisels, sorry Andy. What a great tire, my rig was
taking lines and inclines that I could never make with my rock claws.
I highly recommend these to anyone looking at new tires.
The extra ground clearance is key to how well these tires perform.
I rate them a 10 out of 10.:thumbsup:


ERV

02CooperS
02-26-2009, 08:51 PM
Not a problem Erv. That just means I still have a spare set. After using Schane's wheels and tires on Sunday I would pretty much call it a wash between the Chisel's and Rover's. They are both killer tires.

mazdalarry04
02-26-2009, 10:34 PM
Not trying to start an argument, but dig units are very common in the full size crawlers. They are called atlas II transfer cases. They have two sticks instead of one. The second stick puts the rear wheels in neutral then you use the parking break to lock the rear wheels to pivot around corners. That is why dig units are legal in the USRCCA rules. Because the dig unit is a model of the atlas II transfer case and the atlas is legal in 1:1 crawling competitions. An atlas II will fit in just about anything. Jeeps, tubers, trucks, blazers, even a Ford Ranger and Suzuki samurai.

If you don't want to take my word for it do a search on the atlas II. I have been crawling with my 1:1 jeep for 13 years. I know a little bit about them.

I second that we have a guy in our JEEP group that has a atlas II t Case ON a CJ7 and he uses it all the time

mazdalarry04
02-26-2009, 10:36 PM
I got my R2D2 on monday and am still trying to put it in my crawler. Having problems setting endpionts on my remote but i will figure it out. Probably will not be able to come out this week most likeley i will be there next wed

dasmonkeyboy
02-26-2009, 11:10 PM
Hey Larry, whats up.

If you need any help with the R2D2 just let me know. Make sure you take it apart and thread lock all the screws. And while you have it apart put grease on the dig disconnect assembly.

ev2fast
02-27-2009, 12:57 AM
[quote=02CooperS;2722626]Not a problem Erv. That just means I still have a spare set. After using Schane's wheels and tires on Sunday I would pretty much call it a wash between the Chisel's and Rover's. They are both killer tires.[/quote

I totally agree, as I have tried both Schane's chisels and your rovers on my rig. Aside form the weighting difference in each of the two setups the grip
and side bite are vary close.
I think the increase in outer dia. is the main reason these tires perform
so much better.
I might try the HPI rock grabbers next, I've read good things about these
over priced tires $28.99 a pair.OMG

Leadsled
02-27-2009, 05:41 AM
Rookie question here; would a stock Clodbuster be able to handle this stuff or not? I saw it and thought it looked a little fun. But if my stock Clod isn't up to it..... lol I'm j/w is all. I might give it a shot if it can handle it. My heart lies mostly w/the offroad type racing.

02CooperS
02-27-2009, 07:37 AM
Leadsled - A stock Clodbuster should be able to get around a good portion of the course. It would probably have problems with the top area by the glass since its pretty narrow for a clod. Bring it out and give it a shot!

Leadsled
02-27-2009, 07:40 AM
When is the rock crawling area open? Is it open on off road practice nights? I'm thinkin bout coming down this weekend if I can. If I'm there, I'll either have a straw cowboy hat, Chevy Racing and/or JDaniels Racing ball cap. Clod currently has a Grave Digger body on it. Shouldn't be too hard to spot!

dasmonkeyboy
02-27-2009, 09:05 AM
The course is open all the time. The only rule is, if you dislodge any rocks put them back in the same spot they were in.

WyldWeazel
02-27-2009, 05:14 PM
Hey fellow crawlers.

I will be there tonight, if anyone wants to join me. I am leaving work now (4:15) grabbing my gear, and food and driving there. I should be there around 5:30. I took my crawler apart and I am still putting it back together so I will have some tuning to do. :rolleyes:

WyldWeazel

"Nuttier than squirrel PooP."

mazdalarry04
02-27-2009, 05:26 PM
well just found out from JR that my third channel canot have endpoint adgustments put on it. If any body can tell me other wise please do. If not i am back to diggless darn.

If i can scrounge up the money i will go there tonight to play a little

nathanschmoekel
02-27-2009, 09:16 PM
Q#1..Does that radio have a three position switch on it?
Q#2...have you seen how the throttle and brake setups work on nitro trucks.
They use springs and collars on the control rods. You can also control servo travel the old fashioned way.....by changing the length of the servo horn.

ev2fast
02-28-2009, 03:24 AM
Great crawl tonight guys, the rocks where tuff on rigs for
this gtg for some reason.
Lots of carnage and repair points taking tonight.
But vary fun and almost addicting.

ev2fast
02-28-2009, 03:31 AM
Great crawl tonight guys, the rocks where tuff on rigs for
this gtg for some reason.
Lots of carnage and repair points taking tonight.
But vary fun and slightly addicting.

ev2fast
02-28-2009, 03:53 AM
I must be vary sleepy. :confused:

Leadsled
02-28-2009, 05:15 AM
Thanks for letting me watch you guys do some rock crawling tonight! That was way cool and I'll have to try my hand at it some time, maybe w/that Losi Crawler that was up on the counter? Looks like a blast!

mazdalarry04
02-28-2009, 07:35 PM
finally got the dig working and i should be down there in the next couple days to test it.

Shane when can i get some of that grese

dasmonkeyboy
02-28-2009, 09:25 PM
finally got the dig working and i should be down there in the next couple days to test it.

Shane when can i get some of that grese


I will be at BFG tomorrow at 1:00pm for the comp.

02CooperS
02-28-2009, 09:47 PM
Same here

ev2fast
02-28-2009, 10:26 PM
I'm in!

Leadsled
02-28-2009, 10:53 PM
Would that small Losi crawler get around that track? If so, I might rent it next time and give it a whirl.

Tdevil
02-28-2009, 11:39 PM
Would that small Losi crawler get around that track? If so, I might rent it next time and give it a whirl.

Nope, 1.9 can't handle most of the current course. That is why a 1.9 specific expansion is taped out on the floor. My 1.9 won't be available for rent until the new course is finished.

Sorry

WyldWeazel
03-01-2009, 12:47 AM
I am in for the Comp.

WyldWeazel

Nuttier than Squirrel Poop.

ev2fast
03-01-2009, 01:59 AM
I'm in!I'm in with no kid. See ya! on the pile.

Leadsled
03-01-2009, 04:00 AM
Nope, 1.9 can't handle most of the current course. That is why a 1.9 specific expansion is taped out on the floor. My 1.9 won't be available for rent until the new course is finished.

Sorry

Not a problem! Can't wait to try it.