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slotcarman12078 12-05-2008, 09:34 PM I've posted a couple of times in this forum, and really got no response, so I'm probably talking to myself here, but who knows??? First of all, me bad!! I mix HO scale trains with HO scale cars.. Verbally spank me if you will, but I always have since I was a kid. I'm sorry but true HO scale cars look too small to me. Always have, always will. Faller makes an incredible road system, but it is so far above my means, that all I can do is dream and drool. Static model cars to me are boring. All they do is sit around doing much of nothing. I want motion!! Movement!! Enter the slot car.
There are two HO scale slot cars. The old T-jets scale in at 1/72. The AFX/Tyco/lifelike come in at 1/64 +/-. OK, so I'm not a purist. But my table is a heck of alot of fun!!! I took a bunch of old T-Jet track and made a 4 lane road all over my table. I made my own 4 lane slotcar/RR crossing. I have 2 simple twisted loops of train track covering a 10' X 10" L shaped track. Me and the kids have a blast on it. We regularly have "last man running" races on it. But here's the best part... After they go to bed, I flip 4 switches and I can operate all 4 cars myself. The crossing is automated. When the lights flash, the cars stop and wait for the trains, when the crossing clears, they all go. All by themselves. So far it only works with the overhead lights on in the room. The photo sensors from the grade crossing pro aren't sensitive enough to pick up the light from the street lights I have planted around the table.
I'm far from done in the landscaping department, but it was a bare table in September. Please excuse the scenery, or the lack of!! Here are a few pictures to give you an idea of what I'm talking about..
http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/slotcarman12078/8f9fd4d0.jpg
http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/slotcarman12078/14b0370b.jpg
http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/slotcarman12078/f7a2ae66.jpg
http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/slotcarman12078/5a526bff.jpg
In case you're wondering, yes some of my cars are lighted. I am making my own lighted slotcars. Head and tail lights. Here's a couple more..
http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/slotcarman12078/100_0542.jpg
http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/slotcarman12078/100_0420.jpg
And finally, here's an early shot of the RR crossing. I butchered quite a bit of track before I got it right. So here goes... Will this thread be a solo flight, or is anyone else out there??
http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/slotcarman12078/100_0143.jpg
Tycoarm 12-05-2008, 11:35 PM Once again slotcarman your setup rocks! Your hand built road and rails are way cool and those night shots are sick.:thumbsup:
Here are a few shots of my 2 lanes & trains from a couple of years ago. I took it down and went four lanes last year.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c394/tycobro/holayoutIII-1.jpg http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c394/tycobro/HosinglelanesectionIII.jpg
I recently took down my 1/32 track, extended the table another foot from the opposite side that
was previously extended and replaced it with another attemp for 2 lanes and trains.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c394/tycobro/Extendedtable.jpg http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c394/tycobro/HO2Lane1008.jpg
It lasted only a day before I took it down again. I guess it needed some elevation to make it pop.
Parts Pit Mike 12-06-2008, 01:24 AM Looks great guys... just wish I had the room to do something like this!!
Minreg 12-06-2008, 02:56 AM Slotcarman,
That is going to be one heck of a nice layout when you are done.
Its great now, but just wait till you add the scenic landscaping.
Great work with those HO cars and track.
Love the double mainline too.
I used to do the HO cars and HO trains way back when. Been doing O gauge for many years. I'm not one of those hi-railers though so its more about fun factor for me. I wouldn't worry about those high priced cars you wanted. That would be boring. I would like to incorporate at least one moving road or highway in my next O scale layout.
They have O scale cars called K-Line Lionel Super Streets. Its made to be added to O scale layouts. But I want to do it like Lionel did back in the day on one of there showroom layouts.
Great work slotcarman.
slotcarman12078 12-06-2008, 01:55 PM I guess I will keep posting here, as updates occur!! I have a very bad habit of trying to do too many projects at once, so nothing gets done.. Updates and a few video links will be posted shortly!!
UtherJoe
slotcarkid12 12-12-2008, 12:16 PM Well Tycoarm good tracks :thumbsup: . Did they work? What cars do you have??? Fords, chevy, nascars, any of those??? :confused: :wave: ;):roll:
ryan
slotcarkid12 12-12-2008, 12:23 PM hey dad, what ones??? Well tell me when something new pops up. ok.
ryan
thats cool
id just be worried that when my car goes flying off the track i destroy some of my scenery!
slotcarman12078 12-26-2008, 09:44 PM Scenery can always be replaced or repaired, as I just had to do recently.. One of the kids took out sasquatch who was taking a little stroll too close to the road!!! Oooops!!! No biggie, a little hot melt glue and he was on his merry way!! Once I get the trees in place, they will actually help keep the cars from flying off the table. This method is a proven car and back saver, as the trees give, there is less likelyhood of damage to the cars, and it keeps them from hitting the wall and the floor. Pete Mckay uses them on his Sequoia layout just for that reason..
I was more leery of the railroad crossing than anything at first, but the trains just slide the cars around and other than an occasional skuff mark, there's no biggie there. My biggest concern were the crossing gates. They have proven to be quite forgiving and sturdy. I have yet to make them go up and down at this time. When I do, this is where their durability testing will begin..
RUSSELL ZACHRY 12-26-2008, 10:32 PM That looks like a whole lot of fun, Russell
FIRETREE 01-12-2009, 01:52 PM That setup is pretty cool, so far. I was really wanting to do the same thing, but don't have a clue where to start. My son and I love our 1:48 slot cars. But I want to get more scenic, add a train, and some crossings. Any advice on starting?
Thanks
toyroy 01-12-2009, 09:52 PM ...My son and I love our 1:48 slot cars. But I want to get more scenic, add a train, and some crossings. Any advice on starting?
1:48 is Lionel(or "O" scale) size. Makes it easy. :thumbsup:
slotcarman12078 01-13-2009, 09:42 PM That is correct!! Lionel 027 gauge is 1:43. The RR crossing may not be feasible, but running the two together is a blast! At least when everything is working properly.. I'm about to get a big box of track, and I hate to say it, but I'm going to tear alot of the table up and redo some of it. There's running issues that need to be addressed, some smoothing, banking and scenery clearance issues that (had I really dug into the track threads before I started) would never had happened.. I need to find a better way to feed power to the RR crossing, get the needed light to make the sensors work right in "night time operations", and get the rest of the cables to make the gates operate.
This table has been a series of compromises being shared by the kids (who want to race) and me (who wanted a train table with some "rolling scenery". It appears we are not moving this year, so the table redo is going to be done. There was hope we would be leaving NY for somewhere else, but as it stands now, I'm stuck here. I was hoping to find a nice house with a nice big finished basement to rent where the kids and Icould have our own tables... Maybe next year!!
toyroy 01-13-2009, 10:33 PM ...Lionel 027 gauge is 1:43...
1:43 is a common scale for die-cast cars, and such cars tend to look pretty good with O gauge trains. The trains themselves range from about 1:64 for some less-expensive O27, up to 1:48 for full O scale. British O gauge trains use a scale of about 1:45. :)
FIRETREE 01-14-2009, 12:48 PM 1:43 is a common scale for die-cast cars, and such cars tend to look pretty good with O gauge trains. The trains themselves range from about 1:64 for some less-expensive O27, up to 1:48 for full O scale. British O gauge trains use a scale of about 1:45. :)
I was mistaken, my sons cars are 1:43. For now I am just designing paper model builings in photoshop and we decided not to add a train to that layout. For me O scale modeling is cost prohibitive, not to mention the space issue. I would still like to mix slotcars and trains, with lots of scenery, but I am going to do that in HO. It seems that there are so many more things available for that scale.
Since I have never done anything like this before I am going to have a lot to learn. One thing is for sure though, the photos that some of you post of your layout (both complete and in the making) are amazing and very inspiring.
thanks
Minreg 01-14-2009, 03:04 PM The O scale train hobby has grown by leaps and bounds in recent years. I used to say look at what is available for HO but not anymore.
If cost and space are your main issues I highly suggest using 027 train tracks. Good old 027 tracks can be set up in the same space as HO. They are inexpensive and readily available. You can easily run a trolley line or an 027 size train.
Unfortunately, Lionel has gotten away from disclosing what trains and cars are 027 or 031 compatible. But there are many. I suspect they did this to boost the sales of their 036 Fastrack. If you have the space and money for those track sections, its a good way to go but not necessary. Also, the 036 Fastrack is included in the newer Lionel sets.
Dont give up on O scale if thats what you want. If you have any questions at all send me an email.
I was mistaken, my sons cars are 1:43. For now I am just designing paper model builings in photoshop and we decided not to add a train to that layout. For me O scale modeling is cost prohibitive, not to mention the space issue. I would still like to mix slotcars and trains, with lots of scenery, but I am going to do that in HO. It seems that there are so many more things available for that scale.
Since I have never done anything like this before I am going to have a lot to learn. One thing is for sure though, the photos that some of you post of your layout (both complete and in the making) are amazing and very inspiring.
thanks
Minreg 01-14-2009, 03:17 PM I see a Carrera Go / Lionel track intersection in my future. LOL.
No auto stuff though if you want to cross you do so at your own risk.
Just kidding, it can be done though.
toyroy 01-15-2009, 05:26 PM I see that the slot cars sold at Target are 1:43. I don't know if they make a crossing section, like I've seen in HO, but K-Line(see the Lionel website) has street sections with O gauge tracks running along them. Reminds me of old streetcar trackage in the pavement.
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