yep. check it out. your local ollies has arc 1/24 scale diecast cars. a variety of driver from gordon to harvick, elliott, labonte, and more. cars from 2002 to 2004. these are the real deal. box, foam, diecast car in cloth in box. box is in sleeve with qvc production #'ers on end. you paid 55.00 plus on qvc.
ollies price: $7.99
wow how this collectable nascar has increased in value. you can decide a brand new 1/64 winners circle at walmart for $4.99, or a brand new 1/24 scale arc gordon mint diecast for $7.99?

they are toys now. it can't be argued.

...an 85% discount???? I am so glad no one collected those for the value of investment!

cars from 2002 to 2004.

2002..... in my opinion..... is when the collectability of these cars went down hill. i'd look at the tags on the boxes, and the production run on alot of the drivers were freakin' huge. i understand that dale jr. is the most popular driver and will sell a ton of merchandise. but when most of his cars, we could add jeff gordon too, have production runs of over 100,000, that's just rediculous. then look at the numbers on boxes of some of the other drivers..... the ones that don't sell a ton of stuff. they too were way high, and no one bought it. so now, people are tried of sitting on all of this old stock and will just blow it out.

now i know that nascar itself has gone downhill lately. but, i think if the hadn't flooded the market with all of these cars, they'd be worth more. atleast what you paid for them. i started collecting in 1995. back when you were lucky to find a car with a production run of 5,000. so some of my cars i know i could make money on them, or atleast break even. now that's going by what i've seen on ebay. but the majority..... not a chance. like i've said in another thread, i don't let it bother me. i had a lot of fun collecting them for almost ten years, and i'm glad i have them. :thumbsup:

NASCAR collectibles peaked in 1998. Racing Champions went nuts on the 50th anniversary and killed it. Action signed drivers to exclusive contracts and drove RC, White Rose and others dry because they could only get new drivers and/or Busch series. Then Fred Waggin Balls of Action thought it would be fun to make different cars for some drivers who couldnt sell 500 of just the standard paint scheme. 10,000 of 1, 26,000 of another.

The writing was on the wall after February 2001, There was the natural "dead driver" hype and spike and from then on a slow steady decline. Apart from Dale Jr, Gordon, Kahne and Stewart there is no market for 10,000 of any one else. And when a driver who has been dead for 7 years can outsell (gross $) all but a handful of current drivers there is obviously something wrong in the marketing when anything from 2002-2008 gets blow out at discount Big Lot type places.

i've got numerous cars made by rcca from 1996 to 1998 with production runs of 2500 to 5000. you want to pay me what i paid, there yours. plus shipping. that's about 13 cars at average $50.00 each.
d. waltrip, rudd, labonte, , smokin joes, jarrett. i'll sell them all. fact is i've tried, advertised, you name it. not one single person interested, unless i let them go at $25.00 or less. and i'll only sell them as a lot. no one is going to pay that. my best offer last year was $25.00 each, or less for some. the principal of it, i'll toss them before give them away like that. although, that price is unfortunately realistic, i see now, and if someone local offered it again, i'd probably do it. but not pack and ship them at that price. but now i'd be lucky to see an offer of $10.00 each, with all the stuff out at ollies for 7.99.
friend of mine got divorced. he had 21 cars from rcca. from 1997 to 2002 was the last year i believe. wallace elvis, force elvis, harvicks, gordons, jrs. he gave them to me to sell. i advertised them for 3 months. it's free here in numerous places to advertise. papers, phone party lines. i'm 50 miles from dover. advertised over the dover race weekend.

all the cars were mint, never displayed in original boxes. ended up getting $225.00 for all 21 rcca cars. included a 1/18 scale stewart rookie also.

it's amazing you can now buy a 1/24 action car less than a racing champs car was in 2002.
and from the cars i checked at ollies, production numbers ranged from 20 to 40000. nothing any higher i could find. a gordon car that didn't sell out at 21000 produced? in the 90's that wouldn't happen. but it would be worthless no matter when.
you can debate it all you like. nascar is in the dumper. they trashed their fan base, and now the results are slowing rising to the top.
dump the chase, and the turtle car. let the guys race again. get rid of california and a few other places...... and get back down south to the good ole tracks, get the southern 500 on labor day again, dump the premadona race drivers they created, they might get the sport's base back.

I agree 100% Kwik!

kwik, i said i could sell some of the cars i have for a profit. not a lot of them. i have quite a bit of the old earnhardt wrangler stuff (pontiacs, t-birds, monte ss, aerocoupes). that stuff, although it doesn't bring in the cash they did a few years ago, i would still make get my money back. i was lucky if i paid $40 for any of them back in the day, and i know i'd atleast get that much or more for them. dale's original crash car, the 2000 under the lights car, gordons 2000 action fantasy car, as well as others i have, i could sell for profit. but since none of them are going anywhere, i really don't care. just trying to make a point.

just because you have a bunch of stuff nobody wants, doesn't mean everyone who has nascar diecast is in the same boat. and i'm not trying to be a smartass saying it like that, so hopefully you don't take it that way. i have a ton of stuff no one wants, too. just not all of it.

unfortunately earnhardt, sr. passed. however, i was smart enough to see that writing on the wall. i sold everything i had of his within 2 months of his death. and jr. also. that's when i "made" money. but i was a hardcore fan then. but no way i was passing on an offer of $150.00 above what i paid for an earnhardt car. unfortunately, they guy that bought several, can't sell them now for half what he paid me, as the value of most earnhardt cars has also plumetted..
yes, there are a few cars that get more than you paid. but very few. and even the earnhardt cars don't bring but around what you paid, except like you said, the crash car. i've seen peter max cars go off on ebay unbid on. that never happened 6 years ago.
yeah, i'm stuck with a collection of worthless stuff. no matter how many were made. my fault, i'll take the blame for buying it, but not for ruining the hobby. nascar has and is doing that, and the sport already is from years back in my mind, only an opinion others will disagree with.. i was into it, and never thought nascar would for me, ruin the sport. i have no use for any of it. and at my age, i really wouldn't now anyway. you reach a point where the stuff is in the way.
but i never thought i'd see the day where a $60.00 action car sells for 7.99 and a $1.00 super treasure hunt, with 1000's more produced. sells for anywhere for $20 to $60.00 for a $1.00 car.
nascar got what it deserves. i'll leave it there. and stick with other sports as i have for years now.
and i can say, i'm one who really now questions, is nascar really a sport? not to me any longer. it's professional wrestling, and has been since about 2002.

i never thought i'd see the day where a $60.00 action car sells for 7.99 and a $1.00 super treasure hunt, with 1000's more produced. sells for anywhere for $20 to $60.00 for a $1.00 car.


NO DOUBT! That floors me. The detail on the action cars is great, opening hoods, trunks, detailed interiors, rubber tires, detailed engines, quality paint. VS. a cheaply made $1.00 Hot Wheel, with a $ for a letter, little to no detail, tens of thousands produced vs maybe 5-10 thousand, no opening hoods, no interior detail, no opening trunk, yet they cost three times or more than what I could get for my NASCAR stuff after the scalpers and stockers get ahold of them? Even a regular will sell for 5 -10x the store price. Now that my interests have changed, I am only saving my favorite pieces, but I would have liked to be able to recoup some of what I spent on the others when I was addicted to nascar, and nascar die cast, and NO, I never bought them as an investment, or with the hopes to one day make money on them, I bought them because at that time I was really in to them, I am not anymore, nor am I in to nascar anymore thanks to all the changes over the past few years. However I never thought they would become worthless.

I have tried to sell cars here for half of what I paid or less, and still get guys wanting to chisel me down more, AND eat the shipping, then act like I am being unreasonable. Heck, I even offered to split the shipping with them, even that was not acceptable with them. NO WAY! My kids will get them to play with before I basically give them to a stranger!