Hi Folks!

The Chariot figures are in production... I should be taking orders in a few days and should ship figures in time for Christmas... maybe quite a bit sooner.

I'm starting work of a set of 1/32 figures for the Flying Sub to be ready when the model ships...

Assuming you want David Hedison and Richard Basehart in the 2 seats with Hedison on the controls... any thoughts welcome.

2 questions for you guys...

1 - Dress... in shirt sleeve uniforms or suit coat uniforms... other options?

2 - Do any of you have good reference on the joystick hand controls? I'm going to build them into Hedisons hands... and possibly make a set of replacements for Basehart's seat... maybe not needed... looking ahead...

I'm doing rapid prototyping on a Hedison figure in advance of getting hard data from Moebius just to experiment with the sculpting needed to finish him off... kind of a rough draft. The smaller size will likely be a challenge... but I want these guys to LOOK like their on-screen counterparts!

You're going to love the Chariot figures... Penny's hair turned out a little big... but other than that they really look like the on screen characters.

Hi Folks!

The Chariot figures are in production... I should be taking orders in a few days and should ship figures in time for Christmas... maybe quite a bit sooner.

I'm starting work of a set of 1/32 figures for the Flying Sub to be ready when the model ships...

Assuming you want David Hedison and Richard Basehart in the 2 seats with Hedison on the controls... any thoughts welcome.

2 questions for you guys...

1 - Dress... in shirt sleeve uniforms or suit coat uniforms... other options?

2 - Do any of you have good reference on the joystick hand controls? I'm going to build them into Hedisons hands... and possibly make a set of replacements for Basehart's seat... maybe not needed... looking ahead...

I'm doing rapid prototyping on a Hedison figure in advance of getting hard data from Moebius just to experiment with the sculpting needed to finish him off... kind of a rough draft. The smaller size will likely be a challenge... but I want these guys to LOOK like their on-screen counterparts!

You're going to love the Chariot figures... Penny's hair turned out a little big... but other than that they really look like the on screen characters.
http://hirevsims.com/01prod/fltcontrl/fcntrl/fstjet/fstjet.htm

Would this be of any use? Click on products/Controllers/Controllers/FastJets.

That's a GREAT link teslabe... but given the nature of some of our comrades... I don't want any "canons" fired my way... I'm looking for reference to THE on-screen joystick controls of the flying sub. I did bookmark that link, though... cool stuff!

Over the next week or two... any general comments about what you would like to see in a figure set for the flying sub will be heard loud and clear and I will try to make y'all happy... but I'm guessing about 2 weeks from now I will send out the figures for "printing" to begin the sculpting process on top of the nudes... so speak now. I was wondering if a standing figure in back would be cool... maybe this set is 3 or 4 figures that can be ordered as singles... they are small... but I wll make them nicely detailed! Throw out your desires to be heard!

Drew

They should be in their Leather Jackets with the joysticks in their hands.

I'm trying to avoid buying the whole series... are there any fans out there that can point me to particular episodes that have good detail shots of the interior... the pilot seats and controls in particular... episode number and season?

Leather jackets? I thought you were making a risque joke at first... joysticks in hand... but did they wear leather jackets when they went to fly the sub? I need to get ahold of the scenes to do frame grabs for reference... so any help would be appreciated.

I'm trying to avoid buying the whole series... are there any fans out there that can point me to particular episodes that have good detail shots of the interior... the pilot seats and controls in particular... episode number and season?

Leather jackets? I thought you were making a risque joke at first... joysticks in hand... but did they wear leather jackets when they went to fly the sub? I need to get ahold of the scenes to do frame grabs for reference... so any help would be appreciated.

That's how I remember them also (the leather bomber jackets).

Hello Drew

We need a standing Kowalski with his very distinctive strait out forelock hairstyle...:thumbsup:

Thanks, Gaétan

Although I love the subs... I'm not a true fan... is this kowalski?

Fret... bomber jackets sound fun to sculpt! I'm going to need to find what episode had the scenes in question so I can do some grabs... any help out there? Episode and season numbers?

Nope. Left to right you have there: Chip Morton, Admiral Nelson and Captain Crane.

Here is Kowalski:

http://www.vttbots.com/page1.html

and:

http://www.actordatabase.com/delmonroe/photos.htm

Kowalski typically wore a red jumpsuit / work coverall as his daily uniform. By the way, there's ample room in there for a Chip Morton while you are at it. Those four were certainly series regulars that any Voyage fan would recognize instantly.

Huzz

Thanks Dave! I did a google on the internets... and found Kowalski...

so getting back to my earlier comment... I don't know VTTBOTS very well... but if I can round up the right reference I can make ANYTHING you all desire... Crane and Nelson in the seats is a given, I suspect... but have at it... let me know what you would LOVE to see happen and I will try to make it so... I'll make these little single figures you can order as you wish to mix and match if I get some good ideas from y'all!

That be 'Ski!!!:thumbsup:

Huzz

I don't have the vids or dvds but I can always remember Crane and Nelson in the leather bomber jackets :thumbsup:and from said memories nelson was in the l/hand seat most of the time. But thats a nit pick point...:o

They usually wore black leather jackets that were suppose to incorporate a life vest, and escape hood. They were not bomber jackets, most likely they were made by the costume department. They may not have even actually been leather, I seem to remember them wearing the jackets in the water in a few episodes.

The control sticks were the same ones that were used for the Spindrift. They were auto-pilot imput controls from a B-17 bomber. This according to the Model Builders Reference Vault: http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehicles/Spindrift/SpindriftCockpit.htm

David.

Come to think of it, Kowalski would don a black leather bomber jacket over his red coveralls for FS duty I believe.

Huzz

The control sticks were NOT the same as the 'Spindrift' style, as they were mounted on the arms of the seats, as depicted in both the 'Aurora' and Moebius kits.

They should be in their Leather Jackets with the joysticks in their hands.:thumbsup:


...One other suggestion, How about Capt.Crane in his Yellow Skin Diving Outfit?

To be displayed comming out of the bottom Hatch Perhaps???

Probable base set...
http://www.uncleodiescollectibles.com/img_lib/Flying%20Sub%2021%204-5-5.jpg

possible add on seats?
http://www.uncleodiescollectibles.com/img_lib/Flying%20Sub%2035%2010-25-6.jpg
http://www.uncleodiescollectibles.com/img_lib/Flying%20Sub%2030%2010-25-6.jpg

I also notice a stowed position for the ladder... slightly agled up out of the way... interesting.

Dont forget the throat microphone,very important...

The control sticks were NOT the same as the 'Spindrift' style, as they were mounted on the arms of the seats, as depicted in both the 'Aurora' and Moebius kits.

Look at this photo: http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehicles/Spindrift/spindrift05.jpg

From Phil Broad's site: The yoke was designed and built by the studio but the stick is military surplus. These sticks, which were also used in the "Flying Sub" (Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea), are actually the input control for auto-pilots which were installed in late model WWII B-17s and other bombers of that era.

They are the same control sticks, it is just that on the Spindrift, they are mounted next to the control yokes, not on the pilot's chair arms. Just because the location is different, it does not mean that they are not the same control stick.

I haven't seen it in years, but it is also possible that these control sticks were also used for the pilot's station on the Proteus. All three were made at 20th Century Fox.

David.

They definitely have to be in their black leather bomber jackets.

OH! I see! The joystick yes... the funky steering rig no... so that's a great shot of the joysticks themselves... THANKS!

The same joysticks are used in the SpacePod.

Good Flying Sub episodes from the second season (1965) are:
TIME BOMB, ...AND FIVE OF US ARE LEFT, THE LEFT HANDED MAN,
LEVIATHAN, and THE SILENT SABOTEURS. Neslon and Crane should be
wearing khaki uniforms with the black leather flight jackets with rank
insignia on the shoulders. Great work!

I agree on the joysticks....the Spindrift steering rig, thats another matter entirely. I stand corrected. Sorry David for the misunderstanding.

If they ever decide to do a reboot of Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea, they could always cast Mike Dirnt of Green Day as Kowalski! :thumbsup:

I'd love to see a James Cameron designed Flying Sub type vehicle given his love of oceanography and science fiction.

If they ever decide to do a reboot of Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea, they could always cast Mike Dirnt of Green Day as Kowalski! :thumbsup:

In the reboot, Kawalski would be a woman!

Hopefuly to be played by Rachel Nichols! :woohoo:
Huzz

Thanks For The Episode Refs Argonaut!

and pointing out the throat mike, falcon! I probably would have missed that!

As a point of research, the FS jackets were not "bomber jackets" per se, but were single-breasted black leather U-boat Leater deck coats that had their hems shortened to jacket length, and stand-up collars flattened into regular collars with short lapels.
I highly recommend that you sit through all the 2nd season episodes listed earlier in this thread.
As for sculpting extra figures, Crewman Kowalski & Chief Sharkey are both excellent candidates for extra FS crewmen. It would be helpful to know if the Moebius FS-1 will come with only the pilot and co-pilot seats, or include the two extra passenger seats that were featured from time to time.

Drew, I've been scratching figures for my 1/16 FS scratch-build. Here are a couple of frame grabs...

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa304/CarsonDyle/pic1.png

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa304/CarsonDyle/pic3.png

I've got more if you need them.

So far it looks like it will come with two seats.

Personally, I can live without the third seat.

What would be fun is to have some sort of tentacle, mummy hand, or alien claw poking through the aft hatchway (seems like the guest-monster-of-the-week was always creeping up on the pilots from behind).

Super Reference, Sir Dyle!

Personally, I can live without the third seat.

What would be fun is to have some sort of tentacle, mummy hand, or alien claw poking through the aft hatchway (seems like the guest-monster-of-the-week was always creeping up on the pilots from behind).


....And smacking Patterson across the back of the head:p:p

Sir Dyle, et all... I will leave it to you all to scratch your own monsters creeping in.

Drew, I've been scratching figures for my 1/16 FS scratch-build. Here are a couple of frame grabs...

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa304/CarsonDyle/pic1.png

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa304/CarsonDyle/pic3.png

I've got more if you need them.


...In that second Photo, Sitting next to Nelson is the actor who played Seaview's First Skipper in the Pilot"11 days to Zero". Capt John Phillips:thumbsup:

..He took a bullit to the head after Nelson's car was Ambushed. He was used again here(not as Capt. Phillips), To go with footage from the Pilot Irwin Allen reused..
Just some more usless info:rolleyes:

I'm very interested in these figures. The season 2 dvd set has lots of shots of the flying sub and the uniforms in question. A leather jacket over the uniform in most shots. The pilot always had a throat mike on- like those used in WWII bombers. I will try and give you the episode #'s tonight after I get home.

Never mind- Seaview beat me to it! Good shoW!

Thanks, Though! I have already ordered season 2 DVDs... but the great screen grabs from CarsonDyle help A LOT!

Glad to be of service. Let me know if you need any additional shots.

Funny you should ask, Carson Dyle! I've ordered the second season... but do you have good shots showing

the pattern of the cushions on the seats
the base upon which the seat sits and turns

I'm doing a test print of a character and a seat to try out the sculpting... should post photos next week some time...

still waiting to hear from the caster on the chariot figures... but hope to post pricing and such in a day or two...

...wrong thread... moved to Chariot figures

Yes indeed, I've been watching it recently on TV Land, and every episode in the flying sub has them wearing the jackets. I cant tell you any eisode numbers though...

Getting Started... Since I'm going to offer the "extra" seats to those who might want them... I'm going to do a totally tricked out seat part. This is an EARLY sketch! The geometry for the armrest is actually quite complicated... so I am working out the shapes... but i thought I'd give you all a taste of it. The figure pose is not final at all... I need to see the kit part, and to study the details of the armrest and such to figure the actual pose details.

I'm thinking the seats and figures are close to the window... so they deserve to be done up right. I'll make sure the figures fit the kit part seats... but will also offer replacement seats that are filled with fine delicate detail. They will include alternate armrest without the controls to fit as the third middle seat, or the 2 back seats. I haven't seen the actual kit parts yet... so it is quite possible these seats are not even needed... but I'm so excited about this awesome kit that I am dreaming it all up in advance!

I'm doing some advance work here... hoping to get a part from Moebius to work from to have these ready WHEN the kit ships!

The pilot always had a throat mike on- like those used in WWII bombers. I will try and give you the episode #'s tonight after I get home.

They probably got them the same place that they acquired the B-17 auto-pilot control sticks. No telling how much WWII surplus ended up as props, or set dressing on IA's shows. :lol:

Like all movie studios Fox reused practically everything they had. If you want to know where the lite floor panels in the Flying Sub came from, then look at the Miniaturizer set from "Fantastic Voyage". I have read that the whale interior set was reused body parts, also from "Fantastic Voyage".

David.

Cool!

The geometry for the armrest is actually quite complicated...

Tell me about it...

I've been trying to scratch both the seat and figures for my 1/16 FS build, and it's been a real hair-puller. Your "rough sketches" look great though, and I've no doubt the end results will be far superior to what I manage to cluge together.

This is about all I can do in advance of getting real parts to work from... I am "printing" this seat part and the figure part to visualize scale and detail issues when I am working on the final parts... I'll post photos next week of the parts.

There are LOTS of wrong details in this one... I am still pulling it all together... but it helps to print at least one rough copy to study while I am developing the final art.

Golly this is going to be such a cool kit! Moebius ROCKS!

Drew

Ok! Drewid here's my take on it!

Crane(seated)flight jacket
Nelson(seated)flight jacket
Chip morton(standing) regular duty dress
kowalski(standing) red jumpsuit
Sharkey(standing) wetsuit

I look forward seeing what you come up with.
You may want to include some of those fake
monsters they had on the fourth season.

They were really GREAT!



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