View Full Version : 65'GALAXIE .. Get yer butt up!!


Steves164
11-22-2008, 09:55 AM
This is one sweet casting with all the detail I have come to expect with GL..
Yeah,, the windshield didn't lay back as correctly as they thought it would, but once I added some needed lift to the rear end , the overall appearance is improved ..
Can't wait for that hardtop..... :thumbsup:

dipstick
11-22-2008, 09:58 AM
Does look better - what did you do to it?? Shim?

Steves164
11-22-2008, 10:39 AM
Does look better - what did you do to it?? Shim?

Yup, I did shim. As a result, to keep the rear-end section from hanging below the body , I broke off the chassis behind the rearaxle and re-attached the two sections with epoxy. Love those turn-downs located where they're supposed to be..:thumbsup:

dipstick
11-22-2008, 11:05 AM
Looks Very nice - if the could fix the windsheild it would be stellar..........

Where are you in Central MN - I may have all ready asked you - I am in Minneapolis....

Lummox
11-22-2008, 01:26 PM
Yup, that's a good look right there!
These cars had very chromey 2 or 3 tone interiors.
It might be fun to do that expeshully on an open bodied car.

Steves164
11-22-2008, 02:57 PM
Looks Very nice - if the could fix the windsheild it would be stellar..........

Where are you in Central MN - I may have all ready asked you - I am in Minneapolis....


Thank much ,


I've been lounging in the same house for almost 30years, just north of Elk River ,, almost to Zimmerman ... livin the dream..:rolleyes:

Steves164
11-22-2008, 03:37 PM
Yup, that's a good look right there!
These cars had very chromey 2 or 3 tone interiors.
It might be fun to do that expeshully on an open bodied car.

Youzer! Dave , I was thinking the same thing .. I'm 3 beers into it right now .. I'll have to wait for a steadier head and hand before I give er a try

edseldave
11-22-2008, 07:48 PM
Car looks good ! Other than the noted windshield error , the taillights look too small . I believe 65's were taller ...
This car is crying for whitewall tires too ......

Steves164
11-22-2008, 10:01 PM
Car looks good ! Other than the noted windshield error , the taillights look too small . I believe 65's were taller ...
This car is crying for whitewall tires too ......

Hows this Dave ?

Lummox
11-22-2008, 10:06 PM
Tailights look right to me.
Looks good either way, white walls or black :thumbsup:

jimhowie2000
11-23-2008, 09:05 AM
:thumbsup:Hows this Dave ?
Looks good with the rear end raised and the whitewalls!

ranchero
11-23-2008, 01:19 PM
Sorry, but I think this GL model simply looks bad. The windscreen/A pillar is grotesque. It looks like it is only modeled in the correct scale if the car was built as a high top ambulance. From every angle the part seems to be 1/55 or 1/50 scale in height and spoils the whole car.

The tail lights look suspect also; I agree with the comment that they seem too small. For the 1965 Galaxie the lights are rectangular and higher than they are wide. The shape of the tail lights in the model seems OK, but the size is too small and possibly not tall enough. The deck may be too low; I'm not sure but it looks wrong.

The wheels look bad too. There was a very recognizable four section wheel cover used on '65 Galaxies/LTDs. I don't know what wheel/wheel cover is supposed to be represented in this model but it does not belong to a stock '65 Ford Galaxie.

Racing Champions released a '65 Galaxie two door hardtop in 1/64 scale. The casting is dated 1999. It is much superior to this new GL casting in all areas I have criticized.

- ranchero -

edseldave
11-23-2008, 01:36 PM
Steves164 - Much better , mine will get the same treatment soon . I agree with Rancheros comments . I believe the rear of the car is too much like a '66 Galaxie , which is also coming from this tool .. The '66's had square taillights .. I owned a '66 7 Litre many years ago ...

ranchero
11-23-2008, 01:53 PM
Edsel Dave: The casting will be used also for a '66 Galaxie?.

Impossible to do properly! The quarter panels are completely different. The '65 were horizontal on top; the '66 had a nice, subtle curve. And the tail lights can not be made to work from the same casting; '65s were taller than wide and '66s were wider than tall. Sounds like a cheap short cut which will produce inaccurate models of Galaxies for both years. Very disappointing.

- ranchero -

Steves164
11-23-2008, 01:55 PM
That's an excellent 7 Litre EdselDave...

Looks like the forecast that I have read from various sites is for GL to release the "Galaxie 500 " .. Hopefully , in the future they will also provide a 7 Litre or a 500XL .. I love the chrome detailing on the trunk , front fenders, and Front end , etc .. of those upscale models..

ALSO hope they consider the 67' , which IMO, is the last year Ford had a GREAT looking 2 dr. hardtop in a full size...

jimhowie2000
11-23-2008, 02:01 PM
That's an excellent 7 Litre EdselDave...

Looks like the forecast that I have read from various sites is for GL to release the "Galaxie 500 " .. Hopefully , in the future they will also provide a 7 Litre or a 500XL .. I love the chrome detailing on the trunk , front fenders, and Front end , etc .. of those upscale models..

ALSO hope they consider the 67' , which IMO, is the last year Ford had a GREAT looking 2 dr. hardtop in a full size...

I have seen a picture of the 66 casting on the UTH website and it actually looks pretty good, though in it's first release, it will be a drag version, not a stock one, unfortunate since 66's were really nice looking cars in stock form. I agree, the 67's were very nice looking cars as well but I also always liked the 69-70 sportsroof Galaxies, that sleek roofline with the tunnelback rear window just looked good on that particular body and looked even better as a Mercury Marauder.

edseldave
11-23-2008, 02:28 PM
When I talked to the Greenlight people at the Chicago Hobby Show last month , they had the prototypes for the Galaxies there . I was told because there was so much difference between the 2 years , they did make a new body tool for the 2 cars . They can share chassis & interior parts . I believe the only interchangeable body parts between real 65 & 66 are the bumpers , hood & doors -(2dr & front door on a 4dr ). Im posting a few pics of rear shots to show the real thing comared to the 1/64 car .

Lummox
11-23-2008, 03:09 PM
Rancheerios is right about the tale lights after all. Good eye.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3H1lXFdwh4

I like the '65s pretty good, but much prefer the swankier lines of the '66.
'67s I like just as well and I'm with Jim on those '68 to '70s....WAY cool.
A '69 or a '70 in diecast would be the stuff!!!

- Moe Pah -

greelt-prod
11-24-2008, 10:58 AM
Edsel Dave: The casting will be used also for a '66 Galaxie?.

Impossible to do properly! The quarter panels are completely different. The '65 were horizontal on top; the '66 had a nice, subtle curve. And the tail lights can not be made to work from the same casting; '65s were taller than wide and '66s were wider than tall. Sounds like a cheap short cut which will produce inaccurate models of Galaxies for both years. Very disappointing.

- ranchero -

Hi Ranchero,

Actually our '66 is a different body than the '65. It just shares some of the parts so it is part of the same overall mold. But don't worry, the fender lines, fastback roof curve, etc. that are specific to the '66 will all be there.

Thanks,

- Matt

ranchero
11-24-2008, 02:13 PM
Matt - Thank you for the courtesy of your reply. The '65 and '66 certainly should be separate castings.

I sincerely hope the production of the '66 Galaxie/LTD and any future releases of the '65 casting of the car correct the very poor modeling technique on the windscreen/A pillar, the part used for the wheels and that the '66 tail light area representation is more accurate that achieved on the '65.

Matt, I suggest looking at a sample of the 1:64 scale Racing Champion release of the '65 Galaxie from 1999 as well as the beautiful and highly accurate 1:25 scale plastic '65 & '66 promotional two door hardtops from AMT. The AMT models, though in a larger scale, are absolutely spot on and the RC is very good and much better than the new GL '65 convertible.

There seems to be to me a problem with production in China that sometimes is hard to overcome. If the master modeler is based in China and makes the shell and parts masters there, he may produce a pre-production piece that looks, to him and his compatriots at the Chinese factory, just fine when compared to photos, plans and drawings.

But to the eye of people like the collectors of accurate scale models like me and others on this board, the product may look completely wrong. We have the better eye to judge, for example, a 1965 Ford. We have seen them on the streets when they were new and continue to see them at car shows/car corrals many times each summer during the car culture season. Imprinted on my brain from 44 years of seeing '65 Fords is a good understanding of what an accurate model looks like and I have no doubt that there are many folks like me at your offices in Indiana. Use them because the skilled Chinese technicians can never have that intimate understanding of the right look for a '65 Ford that we American car nuts have in abundance.

Making a model car look right is takes more than constructing accurate scale parts. A model must look right in the hand of a collector. Such a view is similar to what one would see when looking out a second floor window down to a street where the 1:1 scale real car is parked. A Chinese master modeler has never and will never see this view of a '65 Ford and therefore is potentially not capable of, without the careful help of an American who knows cars, producing a satisfying model.

- ranchero -

Puppycat
11-29-2008, 02:49 PM
I am a bit disappointed to hear that the first release of the '66 will be a drag version and not stock. I have been looking forward to this casting for quite some time. ANyone have links to the pictures of the '66?


http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/66_xl_profile_reduced_1_1_1.JPG



Really looking forward to the GM version.:wave:

Lummox
11-29-2008, 04:30 PM
Brad, your Dad's car is just bad to the bone...I thought we might hear from you on this thread.
I'm sure the stock version will be worth the wait, but I'm looking foward to a FULL SIZE drag car from the tail end of an era when people would still run such a giant car on the track....this version should be a real treat for me.

Dave :wave:

96gsfan
12-01-2008, 05:38 PM
I had a 1966 7-Litre (428 version) like this car when I was 19. I can see the 7 Litre badges on the front fender and trunk lid. Also the lack of engine diplacement badges on the lower front fenders gives it away.
Mine was med. metallic green with black top. Fastest darn car I ever owned. Man I miss that car. Best $50. I ever spent.

http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/attachment.php?attachmentid=70020&d=1227464903

vinnie64
12-09-2008, 07:37 PM
steve i have the gm galaxy to swap for 65-67 gm corvettes i also have gm mopars and matching gl as a set to swap any gm corvettes???? thanks vinnie

Galaxieman
12-21-2008, 09:52 PM
Hey Brad quit posting my car without permission. You never change!!!!

I wish you guys would lighten up on the 65. I will take almost any 65-67 Galaxie they come out with. I have 7 of the Yatming 66s and they enjoy space with the 65 GL as well as RCs and even a 67 slot car. As much as I would like spot on accuracy when you are starving even a burger will suffice.

I do agree the 66 needs the special touches found on the XL, LTD and 7 Litre.

zed300
12-22-2008, 06:18 PM
I am looking forward to the 66 Galaxie when it comes out in stock form, though I probably will buy the drag version too. I hope someday Greenlight will do the 67 Galaxie.

Steves164
12-22-2008, 06:52 PM
66s, 67s ....... you bet . bring em on ....
Don't stop there... how about ALL years of Galaxies/ XL500/ LTDs ..
59 thru 72 would do it for me .. 60 and 61 Starliners are probably my favorites .

Galaxieman
12-30-2008, 01:59 PM
Sorry, but I think this GL model simply looks bad. The windscreen/A pillar is grotesque. It looks like it is only modeled in the correct scale if the car was built as a high top ambulance. From every angle the part seems to be 1/55 or 1/50 scale in height and spoils the whole car.

The tail lights look suspect also; I agree with the comment that they seem too small. For the 1965 Galaxie the lights are rectangular and higher than they are wide. The shape of the tail lights in the model seems OK, but the size is too small and possibly not tall enough. The deck may be too low; I'm not sure but it looks wrong.

The wheels look bad too. There was a very recognizable four section wheel cover used on '65 Galaxies/LTDs. I don't know what wheel/wheel cover is supposed to be represented in this model but it does not belong to a stock '65 Ford Galaxie.

Racing Champions released a '65 Galaxie two door hardtop in 1/64 scale. The casting is dated 1999. It is much superior to this new GL casting in all areas I have criticized.

- ranchero -

I have four of the RC 65's, including a chase car, and there are pluses and minuses for both versions. Overall the GL is the better in detail with the RC better in overall scale. I dare say you won't find those classy wrinkles in the top boot in any other models.

Galaxieman
12-30-2008, 02:18 PM
Judge for yourselves but to my eye the GL has it all over the RC.

I couldn't resist adding a current shot of my 66 to the mix.

Lummox
12-30-2008, 02:31 PM
Thanks G-man for the shots....didn't even know of the RC one.
And of course, as allways, your car....is the tits!!!!

ranchero
12-30-2008, 02:48 PM
Galaxieman - Thank you for those comparison photos.

I think RC did a very good job on their car but I can see some aspects of the GL that you might prefer.

The windscreen height on the GL seems, in your photos as well as others I have seen, simply grotesque. The wheels on the GL are generic something or other; on the RC they are correct pattern '65 Ford wheelcovers. The grille on the RC looks better to me but that is subjective of course. And I think the overall shape of the RC simply feels correct; the GL is cartoonish to me.

And of course neither one can compare to the superb AMT promotional models in 1/25 scale.

- ranchero -

Galaxieman
12-30-2008, 05:25 PM
Galaxieman - Thank you for those comparison photos.

I think RC did a very good job on their car but I can see some aspects of the GL that you might prefer.

The windscreen height on the GL seems, in your photos as well as others I have seen, simply grotesque. The wheels on the GL are generic something or other; on the RC they are correct pattern '65 Ford wheelcovers. The grille on the RC looks better to me but that is subjective of course. And I think the overall shape of the RC simply feels correct; the GL is cartoonish to me.

And of course neither one can compare to the superb AMT promotional models in 1/25 scale.

- ranchero -

The RC car looks much better as a shape but the details are lacking. The grille does not show the blackout between the chrome ribs, the letters on the hood are on the horizontal instead of the vertical, that chrome trim on the rear quarter is way out of proportion, the tailights are crude and out of proportion and it does not have the correct chrome spear on the trunk deck. Conversely the GL does not have the "XL" after the Galaxie on the front fender, the GL is an XL and should not have the full length chrome spear and yes if they make the hardtop with that windshield it will look even worse than the convertible. I do like the engine badge on the front fenders.

The AMT promos are easier because of their size. I have 60,61,62,66 AMT Galaxie promos and they are fantastic.

Steves164
12-31-2008, 01:09 AM
I also want to thank Galaxieman for the pics .. I've been hanging on to a couple of the RCs in the collection ,just because there was no other choices for a 1/64th sized 65 Galaxie... Now that I have aquired the GL ,and with the hardtop coming out in the future, I have tossed the RCs into the proverbial
PIECE-O-CRAP drawer with other turds that I was able to replace ...such as other RC versions of the 65 Mustang hardtop... the 71 Cuda .. 70 Olds 442 .. and various HW and earlier attempts from JL..

My favs are the ones that have been developed with the intension of detail .. JL had it for a few years .. GL has scored high with some .. and M2 is nailing it with some of theirs ..

I agree with some of the points made by Ranchero. The windshield angle turned out to be a screwup , but it seems that it wasn't designed with that intension .. They didn't correctly anticipate the effects that the other internal parts obstructing against the correct position of the windshield.. They hosed the look of the 69 Chevelle convert by making the same mistake..
But these things are correctable to get the "right look" ..
If the casting itself sucks so bad that it's beyond repair.. it gets the turd drawer..

Galaxieman
01-07-2009, 10:10 AM
This is one sweet casting with all the detail I have come to expect with GL..
Yeah,, the windshield didn't lay back as correctly as they thought it would, but once I added some needed lift to the rear end , the overall appearance is improved ..
Can't wait for that hardtop..... :thumbsup:

Speaking of low butts have a look at this original Ford promo model of the 1966 Galaxie. I have 5 of them and they all cover the entire top portion of the tire.

Steves164
01-07-2009, 03:14 PM
Speaking of low butts have a look at this original Ford promo model of the 1966 Galaxie. I have 5 of them and they all cover the entire top portion of the tire.



Oh...Oh.... looks like a very bad habit.. The 65s and now the 66s as well ...
The dimensions of the body look SOOOO good , but the overall appearance looks botched due to the stance.....

G- man , Could you show a pic of the back? From the side pic , it appears that the tail light housing is too wide ... or displaced out from the body... a goofy look ....
thanks ,
Steve

Galaxieman
01-07-2009, 05:35 PM
Oh...Oh.... looks like a very bad habit.. The 65s and now the 66s as well ...
The dimensions of the body look SOOOO good , but the overall appearance looks botched due to the stance.....

G- man , Could you show a pic of the back? From the side pic , it appears that the tail light housing is too wide ... or displaced out from the body... a goofy look ....
thanks ,
Steve

The tailight bezel is a little thick in comparison to the real thing but this model has a separate plastic part for the bezel. The 65 from GL does not have a bezel attached but uses just a paint strip on the back of the body. The bezel does not show from the side. I have included a picture of another model since the blue one's bezels are a little separated from the body. The picture of the "real thing" shows just how thin the real ones are. Models will never be 100% in scale. It is just too difficult to accomplish and keep the cost reasonable. The GMP models are much better but they are over $100 each.

Galaxieman

Steves164
01-07-2009, 06:52 PM
The tailight bezel is a little thick in comparison to the real thing but this model has a separate plastic part for the bezel. The 65 from GL does not have a bezel attached but uses just a paint strip on the back of the body. The bezel does not show from the side. I have included a picture of another model since the blue one's bezels are a little separated from the body. The picture of the "real thing" shows just how thin the real ones are. Models will never be 100% in scale. It is just too difficult to accomplish and keep the cost reasonable. The GMP models are much better but they are over $100 each.

Galaxieman

BINGO !!! Thanks for the pics... NOW I understand what you have .. Those 1/24ths are very nice.. I first thought the pic of the lite blue one was a 1/64th GL promo :freak: duhhhh, and that you were some sort of lucky stiff with inside connections ..
There's still hope that the GL hardtop version of the 66 will be somewhat "normal" in stature.... from the pic on GL's site of the one coming out in MCG series 9, it going to set on the low side..

No Biggy ,,,, it's correctable......