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Scott04C5
10-27-2008, 10:56 AM
There has been alot of post about the figure-8 racing at Indy Slots so I thought I would start a thread about it.
We started with six cars four weeks ago and now we are up to twenty known cars. Chime in.

Stateline R/C
10-27-2008, 05:46 PM
can ya run anything? sounds like a road trip is in the works figure 8 is the BOMB! I have an old pan car i used to race down there about 18 yrs ago. right moss?

j21moss
10-27-2008, 07:11 PM
Kevin... you got to run a Legends in this class and get a Black Tamiya Super Tune Motor!!!

67-4-fun
10-27-2008, 07:23 PM
Moss.....We need to get Ronny Wall's old figure 8 car out for that one!!!!!

j21moss
10-27-2008, 07:26 PM
hah!!! he was too slow!!! My car has wooped him twice at Hobbytown back in the days.. but hate to say.. it's only the Legends that run in this Figure 8.. but who knows.. get more people involve with pan cars and some money and maybe.. just maybe they will listen

nickcacc
10-27-2008, 07:30 PM
hah!!! he was too slow!!! My car has wooped him twice at Hobbytown back in the days.. but hate to say.. it's only the Legends that run in this Figure 8.. but who knows.. get more people involve with pan cars and some money and maybe.. just maybe they will listen

Jerri, did you ever race Sam's figure 8's up in Anderson back in the day? He paid pretty big money I recall.

jason crist
10-27-2008, 08:14 PM
not taking anything from this thread

i'm going to run a points series at new castle
starting 1st of dec. when they start there point series also.

legend fig 8
working on rules ....thats why i'm looking to see what you guys run and how much faster or slower the motors and batts are


outlaw fig 8
any 1/10th scale car foam tires
4 cell batts
13.5/19 turn or higher wind
working on rules here too


we will run some figure during november
warm ups paying out cash that night







i'm looking into coming over to run legends
if all i need is a black motor

and for sure if you run 1/10th scale figure too.....

j21moss
10-27-2008, 08:34 PM
Jason.. the motor is all you need.. I ran the old beast with everything I ran at NC and did just fine..even the spec packs were just fine

Nickster.. yes I did win one of those that Sam had..I sure do remember ole Danny Layton and his big ole Merc.. cool looking lead sled!!

merich401
10-27-2008, 10:00 PM
moss you racing tomorrow at the slots?

j21moss
10-27-2008, 11:22 PM
ahhhhh... nope!!!

Railroader
10-28-2008, 12:44 PM
Figure 8 Legends Rules:
Legends chassis no modifications
Legends bodies
Legends spec tires
Bearing are allowed to replace the oilite bushings
4-cell NiMh (4600MAh limit) any connectors
Tamiya (sealed) Black Can
Any servo
Any ESC
Any tx/rx
Any gearing

Let's keep it fun

We are running two 4 minute qualifying heats and 5 minute mains. Perhaps mixing it up periodically with 50 or 75 lap mains.

No more than 7 in a main. Only one bump in each main
If 8 show up, we'll run a 4 car b-main and a 5 car a-main.
If 9 show, 5 car b-main and a 5 car a-main.
If 10 show, 5 car b-main and a 6 car a-main.
If 11 show, 6 car b-main and a 6 car a-main.
If 12 show, 7 car b-main and a 6 car a-main.
If 13 show, 7 car b-main and a 7 car a-main.
If 14 show, 5 car c-main, 5 car b-main and a 5 car a-main.
If 15 show, 5 car c-main, 6 car b-main and a 6 car a-main.
If 16 show, 6 car c-main, 6 car b-main and a 6 car a-main.
If 17 show, 7 car c-main, 6 car b-main and a 6 car a-main.
If 18 show, 7 car c-main, 7 car b-main and a 6 car a-main.
If 19 show, 7 car c-main, 7 car b-main and a 7 car a-main.

j21moss
10-28-2008, 01:02 PM
well if there were 14 Legends last Sunday.. why was there 8 running in the A-Main..was there bump ups??

Stateline R/C
10-28-2008, 04:01 PM
i dont have a legends....i think i won or got 2nd at the hobbytown fig 8 series back in the day

Railroader
10-29-2008, 10:56 AM
well if there were 14 Legends last Sunday.. why was there 8 running in the A-Main..was there bump ups??

There was some miscommunication between me (Tom J) and the race director (Jessica).

We are working on the format of how many heats and how many mains. We can either have more heats, or more mains. Personally, I'd rather have more heats with less cars in the heats, and more cars in the mains. That way you're less likely to break in the heats and be ready for the mains.

On option that was mentioned yesterday: Run it like a real figure-8 race. Run the heats in an oval, and run the mains in figure-8s. I would think we'd reverse the direction for the heats so tire wear can be kept remotely even. Anyone have any opinions on that?

There are a number of other things we need to work on as well. Since we have so many new drivers that are completely new to RC racing, some may not know if and when they are to marshall. If we can get people to respond quickly and be ready to marshal immediately after their race, we can move things along very quickly and we can run less cars in both heats and mains.

Railroader
10-29-2008, 11:29 AM
Uhhh... I forgot to add....

I had a great time yesterday racing. I broke a from axel carrier in the 2nd heat, but 5 minutes and it was fixed. And somehow, during the repair, I fixed my right-turn push and for the main my car was hooked!

But....

I bent my rear axle and no one has them in stock. All of the online shops have "Early Nov." as an expected delivery date. I back ordered one off of Towerhobbies.com, but that means I can't race for a while. I'll tear into my car and see if I can straighten my bent one.

Does anyone have a spare one (rear axle) they can sell me so I can race on Sunday? Please?

jason crist
10-29-2008, 12:07 PM
it has to be a metal axle ?

j21moss
10-29-2008, 01:05 PM
Yes Jason.. it's got to be a steel axle!!!!

anway.. really doesn't matter to me how many cars run together.. more the merrier, but if you post what they are suppose to be.. better stick with it.. people like to cry and we don't want that.. now has for what to run as for heats.. running oval for heats is ok with me.. but the racers who has least amount of figure 8 experience will suffer the most and when the mains are run.. expect more damage.. If you wanted learn how to run in it and try to save you car.. then keep running the 8's.. just like running the ovals and then switching to roadcourse or switching to stadium layout for the mains.. makes no sense to me.. keep it the way it is.. i know the big Dogs at the drome run the ovals for prelimary's and then the eight.. but that's totally different.. their's lives are at stake and those big toys cost alot more money to keep together... just my opinion!!:woohoo:

Railroader
10-29-2008, 01:24 PM
Yes Jason.. it's got to be a steel axle!!!!

anway.. really doesn't matter to me how many cars run together.. more the merrier, but if you post what they are suppose to be.. better stick with it.. people like to cry and we don't want that..

I hear ya. We should stick to the current plan. Rules changes to an absolute minimum! As in ZERO changes. We are drawing a crowd now with what we have, no need to change it.

We might add another class. Some guys want to run the Legends Oval with very strict Legends rules as well as the Figure-8. I would certainly do the Oval and Figure-8 Legends. Kits are cheap and I have all the electronics laying around. But the spec batteries are hard to get aren't they? We'd have to choose a good cheap, easy to buy battery.

now has for what to run as for heats.. running oval for heats is ok with me.. but the racers who has least amount of figure 8 experience will suffer the most and when the mains are run.. expect more damage.. If you wanted learn how to run in it and try to save you car.. then keep running the 8's.. just like running the ovals and then switching to roadcourse or switching to stadium layout for the mains.. makes no sense to me.. keep it the way it is.. i know the big Dogs at the drome run the ovals for prelimary's and then the eight.. but that's totally different.. their's lives are at stake and those big toys cost alot more money to keep together... just my opinion!!:woohoo:

Good points.

flywheel93
10-29-2008, 01:57 PM
tom check out this link on the axle. http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=232282

Make you can get one for the weekend

Railroader
10-29-2008, 02:19 PM
tom check out this link on the axle. http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=232282

Make you can get one for the weekend

Excellent, thanks for the link! Somehow during my search I didn't see that link on here.

Railroader
10-29-2008, 04:22 PM
tom check out this link on the axle. http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=232282

Make you can get one for the weekend

I ordered a few... OK, I ordered 25 of them...

They probably won't make it to me for the weekend... But I'll have stock of a hard to get part sooo...

If anyone needs an axle, come see me. If you don't know who I am, I have the '76 Red, White, & Blue car.

Tom Johnson aka. "Railroader"

flywheel93
10-29-2008, 04:24 PM
Dang man, new parts supplier in town. so do you think there is going to be oval ran? Tower hobbies has the batteries and motors in stock.

Railroader
10-29-2008, 04:28 PM
Dang man, new parts supplier in town. so do you think there is going to be oval ran? Tower hobbies has the batteries and motors in stock.


Send me a link to the motors and batteries please.

flywheel93
10-29-2008, 04:33 PM
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXNL80&P=7

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXDRC6&P=M



omnimodels has them in stock also...

Railroader
10-29-2008, 04:35 PM
[Messed up, did not order.]

flywheel93
10-29-2008, 04:44 PM
what all did you get?

merich401
10-29-2008, 07:19 PM
Had fun lastnight plan to race legends more often, its a nice relaxing race day which i am not use to.....

j21moss
10-29-2008, 07:32 PM
Had fun lastnight plan to race legends more often, its a nice relaxing race day which i am not use to.....

well!!!!! how did you do Homie????

surfer kev
10-29-2008, 07:52 PM
already started building car for oval class thinks thats a killer idea but definately should keep strict legand rules for the oval class big entries if we could do that with the sprinters and drift class would be a long night though!!!!!!! but what else is there to do this time of year. Can you run deans connections, direct soldier or is the tamiya plug all you can run on the spec battery?????

what about turning armatures on they spec motor is that legal? sorry so many questions new with this class just what to make it clear for guys like me so it doesn't get out of control and then we have to police more than we can race and enjoy what we are doing.

QUESTION......looking at buying turbo 35 charger what do you all think good/bad both help looking to upgrade charger??????????

j21moss
10-29-2008, 09:46 PM
well if it was up to me..I would make the rules simple..Spec tires, Spec motor and spec batteries..if available, if not I'm sure there is something out there.. I think this would be ok.. limit the cell size to 3800 but if not.. just keep the big money of batteries prices down so everybody will be happy.. now as for the Spec motor.. I have them and I do cut the arms and run different brushes.. but after I just ran my black can Tamiya motor.. I rather run them.. No turning the arm.. no brushes to buy and it's $24.00.. break it in on 2 volts for about 1000 seconds and it's ready to roll.. just trying to break in the bushings is all and those brushes are rock hard. Now has for the car.. run it stock.. if the manuel that comes with the kit saids you can do it.. then it's legal.. if not your cheating!!!.. now has for radio and speed control.. keep it simple.. I still run a old Novak M5 speed control from 1995.. bought it new when I bought the Legend and I do have the Deans plug.. No problems.. but if you run the Figure 8. then a Reversible speed control would be better due to some much traffic going on..I feel sorry for the turn marshals so better to have a little help and making it a little better for the marshals.. but just remember.. if you run on the oval.. no REVERSE!!!! Now as for the Radio.. well this will become a issue.. I used to run a Futaba Maganum Jr. for years but the last 2 years I switch to the Futaba PD AM 10 channel.. It's light and you can use it for more than 1 car.. and crystals are pretty reasonable.. but there are other Radios just as good,, Specktrum and JR are good but try and keep the price down.. I do know some others that use the Futaba PCM or similiar radios that are out of this world in cost and are alot better than the radios that are pretty cheap.. but why in the world would you want to put a radio that cost alot more than the price of the car... Seems stupid to me but my opinion is to put those nice radios in R/C Kits that need them the most.. Pan Cars or Stadium Trucks that are 10th scale or bigger.. They are alot faster and that is when you need them the most or at bigger tracks like New Castle or Fort Wayne or the BIG track,, The Velodrome!!! or out back on the Dirt Track.. There is a place and a kit for just for them.. Now as for tires.. SPEC ONLY!!!!!!!! These tires are very resonable in price and it's very easy to tech when needed.. Trinity,TRC and BSR makes them and only them.. They are easy to see what you have with the Gray stripe on the Trinity and TRC's and the Yellow stripe on BSR's but I forgot the Bolink wheels and tires are also legal due to that is what comes with the kits.. now those tires are all black but what people don't know is those wheels are smaller in diameter and so are the tires so those are the only tires that will work on those wheels meaning that the wheels are gray or white and the tires are the same compound as the spec tires so they are legal to run.. Now you think what if I get some Tire Doughnuts from Bsr that are any compound and just put them on the gray wheels.. Go ahead and waste your money.. inside diameter of the replacement donuts is larger and the wheels won't work.. wheels will be too small!!! so don't even try it!!.. Once again..KEEP IT SIMPLE!! Now the turn buckles I agree on changing them instead of those cheap adjustable linkage that are junk and run the plastic hubs.. everybody complains about they strip out when tightning.. when use some common sense.. grind a flat spot on the steel axle and just snug the set screw on the hub and no problems.. I still am using the same hub from the kit back in 1995 and have no problems. I know Terre Haute track uses the Aluminum Hub on the left side but each to his own on what to use when you really don't have too.. Wheel Bearing is a good idea as I did change to them about 5 yrs ago and bushings to suck.. now has for the front springs.. leave them with the red springs that come with the kit.. every other track uses other springs and I don't see any advantage on these kits at all.. I tried it at Fort Wayne and New Castle and Terre Haute and see no difference.. all that does it getting people mad and say that you are cheating and then when it all said and done.. You are!!! with no advantage at all.. For years I loosen or tighten the screws on the sides of the chassis to tweak the chassis.. and that's legal!!.. So there!!!! Like I said before... Keep it simple and fair and inexpensive and most important Let's Have FUN!!!!!!!!!!

surfer kev
10-29-2008, 10:12 PM
way to go jerry couldn't have said it any more clear than that. that is what most forget in the great scheme of all this is that it is suppose to be fun, a hobby, and i always tell myself that you have to not care to a certain point so that it will stay exciting and fun. way to go and we need to remind others of this aswell.......

jason crist
10-29-2008, 10:25 PM
well if it was up to me..I would make the rules simple..Spec tires, Spec motor and spec batteries..if available, if not I'm sure there is something out there.. I think this would be ok.. limit the cell size to 3800 but if not.. just keep the big money of batteries prices down so everybody will be happy.. now as for the Spec motor.. I have them and I do cut the arms and run different brushes.. but after I just ran my black can Tamiya motor.. I rather run them.. No turning the arm.. no brushes to buy and it's $24.00.. break it in on 2 volts for about 1000 seconds and it's ready to roll.. just trying to break in the bushings is all and those brushes are rock hard. Now has for the car.. run it stock.. if the manuel that comes with the kit saids you can do it.. then it's legal.. if not your cheating!!!.. now has for radio and speed control.. keep it simple.. I still run a old Novak M5 speed control from 1995.. bought it new when I bought the Legend and I do have the Deans plug.. No problems.. but if you run the Figure 8. then a Reversible speed control would be better due to some much traffic going on..I feel sorry for the turn marshals so better to have a little help and making it a little better for the marshals.. but just remember.. if you run on the oval.. no REVERSE!!!! Now as for the Radio.. well this will become a issue.. I used to run a Futaba Maganum Jr. for years but the last 2 years I switch to the Futaba PD AM 10 channel.. It's light and you can use it for more than 1 car.. and crystals are pretty reasonable.. but there are other Radios just as good,, Specktrum and JR are good but try and keep the price down.. I do know some others that use the Futaba PCM or similiar radios that are out of this world in cost and are alot better than the radios that are pretty cheap.. but why in the world would you want to put a radio that cost alot more than the price of the car... Seems stupid to me but my opinion is to put those nice radios in R/C Kits that need them the most.. Pan Cars or Stadium Trucks that are 10th scale or bigger.. They are alot faster and that is when you need them the most or at bigger tracks like New Castle or Fort Wayne or the BIG track,, The Velodrome!!! or out back on the Dirt Track.. There is a place and a kit for just for them.. Now as for tires.. SPEC ONLY!!!!!!!! These tires are very resonable in price and it's very easy to tech when needed.. Trinity,TRC and BSR makes them and only them.. They are easy to see what you have with the Gray stripe on the Trinity and TRC's and the Yellow stripe on BSR's but I forgot the Bolink wheels and tires are also legal due to that is what comes with the kits.. now those tires are all black but what people don't know is those wheels are smaller in diameter and so are the tires so those are the only tires that will work on those wheels meaning that the wheels are gray or white and the tires are the same compound as the spec tires so they are legal to run.. Now you think what if I get some Tire Doughnuts from Bsr that are any compound and just put them on the gray wheels.. Go ahead and waste your money.. inside diameter of the replacement donuts is larger and the wheels won't work.. wheels will be too small!!! so don't even try it!!.. Once again..KEEP IT SIMPLE!! Now the turn buckles I agree on changing them instead of those cheap adjustable linkage that are junk and run the plastic hubs.. everybody complains about they strip out when tightning.. when use some common sense.. grind a flat spot on the steel axle and just snug the set screw on the hub and no problems.. I still am using the same hub from the kit back in 1995 and have no problems. I know Terre Haute track uses the Aluminum Hub on the left side but each to his own on what to use when you really don't have too.. Wheel Bearing is a good idea as I did change to them about 5 yrs ago and bushings to suck.. now has for the front springs.. leave them with the red springs that come with the kit.. every other track uses other springs and I don't see any advantage on these kits at all.. I tried it at Fort Wayne and New Castle and Terre Haute and see no difference.. all that does it getting people mad and say that you are cheating and then when it all said and done.. You are!!! with no advantage at all.. For years I loosen or tighten the screws on the sides of the chassis to tweak the chassis.. and that's legal!!.. So there!!!! Like I said before... Keep it simple and fair and inexpensive and most important Let's Have FUN!!!!!!!!!!



Dude
i;m impressed as old as you are you could keep focus that long.......

I agree 100%
i would only run this legend class because i come to have fun but mainly run fig 8

j21moss
10-29-2008, 10:31 PM
well ok then.............Let's Go Racing!!!!!!!!!!!

merich401
10-30-2008, 12:03 AM
Here is my story

1.Moss is a cheater dont believe a word he says I learned this 10 years ago!

2.J.christ isn't far behind moss but still has a chance of turning out ok.

3.I can say this because I only race 3 times a year now

4.Moss now where do you think I finished? Dust off the citgo legend for sunday because I look forward to sending you upstairs for parts when we meet in the "X"

Sincerely,
"Jerry's best friend
ME

j21moss
10-30-2008, 07:45 AM
bring it on Sleigh Boy!!!! and ...bring your little Dog too!!!

Railroader
10-30-2008, 11:10 AM
well if it was up to me..I would make the rules simple..Spec tires, Spec motor and spec batteries..if available, if not I'm sure there is something out there.. I think this would be ok.. limit the cell size to 3800 but if not.. just keep the big money of batteries prices down so everybody will be happy.. now as for the Spec motor.. I have them and I do cut the arms and run different brushes.. but after I just ran my black can Tamiya motor.. I rather run them.. No turning the arm.. no brushes to buy and it's $24.00.. break it in on 2 volts for about 1000 seconds and it's ready to roll.. just trying to break in the bushings is all and those brushes are rock hard. Now has for the car.. run it stock.. if the manuel that comes with the kit saids you can do it.. then it's legal.. if not your cheating!!!.. now has for radio and speed control.. keep it simple.. I still run a old Novak M5 speed control from 1995.. bought it new when I bought the Legend and I do have the Deans plug.. No problems.. but if you run the Figure 8. then a Reversible speed control would be better due to some much traffic going on..I feel sorry for the turn marshals so better to have a little help and making it a little better for the marshals.. but just remember.. if you run on the oval.. no REVERSE!!!! Now as for the Radio.. well this will become a issue.. I used to run a Futaba Maganum Jr. for years but the last 2 years I switch to the Futaba PD AM 10 channel.. It's light and you can use it for more than 1 car.. and crystals are pretty reasonable.. but there are other Radios just as good,, Specktrum and JR are good but try and keep the price down.. I do know some others that use the Futaba PCM or similiar radios that are out of this world in cost and are alot better than the radios that are pretty cheap.. but why in the world would you want to put a radio that cost alot more than the price of the car... Seems stupid to me but my opinion is to put those nice radios in R/C Kits that need them the most.. Pan Cars or Stadium Trucks that are 10th scale or bigger.. They are alot faster and that is when you need them the most or at bigger tracks like New Castle or Fort Wayne or the BIG track,, The Velodrome!!! or out back on the Dirt Track.. There is a place and a kit for just for them.. Now as for tires.. SPEC ONLY!!!!!!!! These tires are very resonable in price and it's very easy to tech when needed.. Trinity,TRC and BSR makes them and only them.. They are easy to see what you have with the Gray stripe on the Trinity and TRC's and the Yellow stripe on BSR's but I forgot the Bolink wheels and tires are also legal due to that is what comes with the kits.. now those tires are all black but what people don't know is those wheels are smaller in diameter and so are the tires so those are the only tires that will work on those wheels meaning that the wheels are gray or white and the tires are the same compound as the spec tires so they are legal to run.. Now you think what if I get some Tire Doughnuts from Bsr that are any compound and just put them on the gray wheels.. Go ahead and waste your money.. inside diameter of the replacement donuts is larger and the wheels won't work.. wheels will be too small!!! so don't even try it!!.. Once again..KEEP IT SIMPLE!! Now the turn buckles I agree on changing them instead of those cheap adjustable linkage that are junk and run the plastic hubs.. everybody complains about they strip out when tightning.. when use some common sense.. grind a flat spot on the steel axle and just snug the set screw on the hub and no problems.. I still am using the same hub from the kit back in 1995 and have no problems. I know Terre Haute track uses the Aluminum Hub on the left side but each to his own on what to use when you really don't have too.. Wheel Bearing is a good idea as I did change to them about 5 yrs ago and bushings to suck.. now has for the front springs.. leave them with the red springs that come with the kit.. every other track uses other springs and I don't see any advantage on these kits at all.. I tried it at Fort Wayne and New Castle and Terre Haute and see no difference.. all that does it getting people mad and say that you are cheating and then when it all said and done.. You are!!! with no advantage at all.. For years I loosen or tighten the screws on the sides of the chassis to tweak the chassis.. and that's legal!!.. So there!!!! Like I said before... Keep it simple and fair and inexpensive and most important Let's Have FUN!!!!!!!!!!

Woo HOO!!!

Alright, so, from what I gather up there, here is a good start on rules. Let me know if I screwed something up or missed anything.

Proposed rules!!! Not set in stone!!!
OVAL LEGENDS CLASS:
Legends Chassis
Motor - Tamiya Black Can
Battery - anything under 3800 mAh
Tires - Legends spec
Servo - any
ESC - [how does "any retailing new less than $60 sound"]
Radio - any*

Mods allowed:
Steering
"Flat spotting" axel for left hub set screws to seat better

Other rules:
Stock springs only (red)
No tire truing
Must run 21 or 22 tooth pinion gears
Stock Spur
NO reverse during a race. Using reverse will disqualify you from that race.



* I know you said keep it cheap, but is there really much of an advantage to radios? I own mine simply because it is DSM (no crystals/glitching) and it holds 30 models in memory (don't ask).

Railroader
10-30-2008, 11:19 AM
I knew I'd forget something....

Any electrical connectors.

flywheel93
10-30-2008, 01:03 PM
but now I just bought the legend spec motor and batteries for what?

Railroader
10-30-2008, 01:33 PM
but now I just bought the legend spec motor and batteries for what?

CRAP!

Sorry man. I knew I'd screw something up. My order didn't go through for some reason (Paypal glitch with towerhobbies).

Can you return it? If not, I'll buy it off you as I was the one who screwed up.

j21moss
10-30-2008, 01:48 PM
but now I just bought the legend spec motor and batteries for what?

hang on to the motors and batteries.. believe me you will use them.. These were just ideas.. Doesn't make me right on everything!!! By the way in order to enforce these ideas.. 1st you have to have the track owner and the racers to agree on these things and have a meeting.. but needs to be done asap!!!! don't drag it out.. and make sure once a greed on.. get it posted on here and the track!!!

Railroader
10-30-2008, 01:54 PM
hang on to the motors and batteries.. believe me you will use them.. These were just ideas.. Doesn't make me right on everything!!! By the way in order to enforce these ideas.. 1st you have to have the track owner and the racers to agree on these things and have a meeting.. but needs to be done asap!!!! don't drag it out.. and make sure once a greed on.. get it posted on here and the track!!!

Do they run those motors at batteries at New Castle?

Doug will pretty much run whatever we agree on. He will occasionally make the rules and step in when needed too.

Actually, if a single person wants to set rules for a class, and can get 3 or more to agree to them, then we have a class at Indy Slots. Just have to not damage the track/shop, drive out other racers, or become obnoxious. Of course Doug has the final say, but he's very easy going and wants racers/shoppers in the building.

Railroader
10-30-2008, 01:56 PM
On a side note: I might not (small chance) be there to race on Sunday. My parents are coming down from Michigan and if I can talk my dad into coming to the track I'll be in.

But I should definitely be there Tuesday.

surfer kev
10-30-2008, 09:00 PM
if you use same motor for both you keep the racer happy but loose possible money for track if you do that as well but more racing is always better need to keep owner happy in order to have a place to race....if we do this he better or someone better carry more parts to keep all of us happy when something breaks i know that will happen

hey tom bushing or bearings for the oval class need to clarify
you allowed in the figure-8 maybe should do the same for oval more people could run both classes. i think that is the idea to be able to run one car in both classes much happier racer if you do this

jason crist
10-30-2008, 09:25 PM
if you want more racers to come
run both spec motor and batts
together with your rules ( black motor and 3800 batts)


that small of a track would there be that big of an advantage ?

j21moss
10-30-2008, 09:43 PM
if you want more racers to come
run both spec motor and batts
together with your rules ( black motor and 3800 batts)


that small of a track would there be that big of an advantage ?

good question!!!

Railroader
10-30-2008, 10:09 PM
if you use same motor for both you keep the racer happy but loose possible money for track if you do that as well but more racing is always better need to keep owner happy in order to have a place to race....if we do this he better or someone better carry more parts to keep all of us happy when something breaks i know that will happen

hey tom bushing or bearings for the oval class need to clarify
you allowed in the figure-8 maybe should do the same for oval more people could run both classes. i think that is the idea to be able to run one car in both classes much happier racer if you do this

Let me know what parts are the most commonly broken and I will lean on Doug to order those the most. The ones I see most often are steering knuckles, wheels, bumpers, cross-member, king pins, ... What am I missing?

Bushings. Everyone should have the ones that came in the kits. And they are very cheap to buy if they tossed them. I have them in my figure-8 car now because I went through two sets of bearings in two weeks. The bearings just can't take the impacts.

I'll probably run the same car in both figure-8 and oval for a while.

I think we should stick with the Tamiya Black Can. We already have a good crowd. I foresee some of the guys already running figure-8 will also be running the oval and it would be nice to keep costs down.

Scott04C5
10-30-2008, 10:46 PM
I would also like to see the same rules for the oval and figure 8. I think alot more people will run both that way. And besides, I don't want to buy another car to run oval.

Railroader
10-31-2008, 02:41 PM
I would also like to see the same rules for the oval and figure 8. I think alot more people will run both that way. And besides, I don't want to buy another car to run oval.

I am leaning this way.

I think we should tighten up the rules a little bit though.

How about adding to the figure-8 and Oval rules "Spec tires - No tire truing".

And for the Legends Oval, I think we should stick to the 3800 mAh rating limit. If you are going to run both classes, you are going to need another battery anyway. Tower Hobbies has a Integy 8-cell stick pack rated at 3600 mAh that could be split into two 4-cell packs and would work great. Cost would be less than $25 per pack.

Please comment on these proposed rules please.

Proposed rules:
OVAL LEGENDS CLASS:
Legends Chassis
Motor - Tamiya Black Can
Battery - any NiMh under 3800 mAh
Tires - Legends spec - no truing
Servo - any
ESC - [how does "any retailing new less than $60 sound"]
Radio - any
Bearings or bushings

Mods allowed:
Steering
"Flat spotting" axel for left hub set screws to seat better

Other rules:
Stock springs only (red)
Must run 21 or 22 tooth pinion gears
Stock Spur
NO reverse during a race. Using reverse will disqualify you from that race.

Proposed rules:
Figure-8 LEGENDS CLASS:
Legends Chassis
Motor - Tamiya Black Can
Battery - NiMh 4-cell
Tires - Legends spec - no truing
Servo - any
ESC - [how does "any retailing new less than $60 sound"]
Radio - any
Bearings or bushings

Mods allowed:
Steering
"Flat spotting" axel for left hub set screws to seat better

Other rules:
Must run 21 or 22 tooth pinion gears
Stock Spur
Reversing allowed (and encouraged, think of the marshals)

j21moss
10-31-2008, 07:33 PM
ah.. what's the deal about No tire truing???????? that will never work!!! You put a new tire next to my car now and have of the others out there.. we all be disqualified..no advantage at all.. I rather run taller tires anyway.. keeps chassis off the ground

Railroader
11-01-2008, 01:55 AM
That is why they are proposed rules and not "The Rules".

I am trying to keep the costs down. Tire truing is messy. We don't want this to be a class of chasing down the 1/10th of a second to win a race class do we? We just want to have fun and go in ovals.

I probably won't be there Sunday, but I talked to at least 6 people who are running the class regularly and they all like the fact that we are keeping the rules the same as the figure-8 class (except for the batteries), and plan on running both classes, either with a second car or their current figure-8 car. How often can you bring one car to a track and race in two classes?!?! I think that is awesome!