View Full Version : Caster Blocks...stock AE vs. Aluminum aftermarket


Ginsu
10-23-2008, 09:46 AM
Getting ready to build a new car. Do I want to go with the stock AE caster blocks or something along the lines of the ones KSG makes? Is there an advantage to being able to move your hingepin up and down?

Thanks!:thumbsup:

Team T2C
10-23-2008, 10:20 AM
I beleive that would affect and change the roll center. But I am new to the RC oval thing.

rhodopsine
10-23-2008, 10:25 AM
Moving the hinge pin up or down allows you to adjust the upper arm angle and change the amount of camber gain when the front suspension compresses. the steeper the angle, the more camber gain you will have.

Martin Paradis

Ginsu
10-23-2008, 10:45 AM
Thanks. So Martin do you run the stock AE blocks or do you like being able to change camber gain?

Da One
10-23-2008, 10:52 AM
I always used to run the adjustable IRS castor blocks and liked them. Someone recently put me onto the normal CRC 0 degree blocks and I like them alot better. To me I know that unlike adjustable, These are a constant so I just focus my attention on other adjustments.

MIDWESTRC
10-23-2008, 11:19 AM
Hyperdrive 5 hole !

DOUGHBOY
10-23-2008, 11:53 AM
Rip Adjustables Are The Best Thing Out There

erock1331
10-23-2008, 12:21 PM
Only downside to aluminum over the stock plastic are sometimes you can chase something in your setup for weeks and realize it was a slightly bent alum castor block. So be aware of that.
Was fast with either. Its a matter of how technical you want to get with it all.
Remember a properly built front end without all the bells and whistles will still be faster than an improperly built front end that costs $150.

Team T2C
10-23-2008, 02:55 PM
See I was wrong and learned something

BRhodes
10-23-2008, 03:05 PM
See I was wrong and learned something


You were correct. It does also change the roll center by changing the angle of the top arms.

Kenwood
10-23-2008, 03:14 PM
Only downside to aluminum over the stock plastic are sometimes you can chase something in your setup for weeks and realize it was a slightly bent alum castor block. So be aware of that.
Was fast with either. Its a matter of how technical you want to get with it all.
Remember a properly built front end without all the bells and whistles will still be faster than an improperly built front end that costs $150.
+1 Eric is spot on as usual... I got much faster when I went back to Plastic 12th scale 0 degree castor blocks and worked on making the front end 100% free...

RPM
10-23-2008, 06:17 PM
Only downside to aluminum over the stock plastic are sometimes you can chase something in your setup for weeks and realize it was a slightly bent alum castor block. So be aware of that.
Was fast with either. Its a matter of how technical you want to get with it all.
Remember a properly built front end without all the bells and whistles will still be faster than an improperly built front end that costs $150.

Amen brother!
I agree!:thumbsup:

davepull
10-23-2008, 06:40 PM
Only downside to aluminum over the stock plastic are sometimes you can chase something in your setup for weeks and realize it was a slightly bent alum castor block. So be aware of that.
Was fast with either. Its a matter of how technical you want to get with it all.
Remember a properly built front end without all the bells and whistles will still be faster than an improperly built front end that costs $150.


so true. but something tells me if you wreck hard enough to bend a Hyperdrive or Custom Works castor block the bent block is the least of your worries. lol

KISS

rhodopsine
10-25-2008, 11:58 AM
Thanks. So Martin do you run the stock AE blocks or do you like being able to change camber gain?

Right now I run 10° reactive caster blocks. I have the Calandra ones because of looks (I like the blue aluminum!), but the plastic ones from Associated are just as good, and a tad lighter.

Adjusting camber gain can be very useful, especially on flat tracks. as the chassis rolls during cornering, adjusting the camber gain allows you to optimize the contact patch of the tire, especially the right front, and will help the car to steer once in the corner.

Martin Paradis

SDL98
10-25-2008, 01:26 PM
Right now I run 10° reactive caster blocks. I have the Calandra ones because of looks (I like the blue aluminum!), but the plastic ones from Associated are just as good, and a tad lighter

Martin Paradis

Martin which side do you run the 10degree blks on both rt or lft. Does it make the car more agressive in off or overall
thanks Steve L

davepull
10-25-2008, 04:28 PM
should make it makes it more aggressive into the corner an less off the corner

rhodopsine
10-27-2008, 01:16 PM
Martin which side do you run the 10degree blks on both rt or lft. Does it make the car more agressive in off or overall
thanks Steve L

I run 10 degree on both sides. I have not played with 5 degree blocks yet. It allows me to run a bit more caster than I used to without making the car undrivable from middle out.

Martin Paradis

SDL98
10-27-2008, 02:10 PM
Thanks Martin