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slotcarman12078
11-19-2008, 08:44 AM
We'll just say there there were advantages for him to get out of the Bronx. He decided to move his cattle mutilation operations up north before the NYC Health Dept. shut him down. I can't think of a better time to go vegan. By next week his wife Bertha will be in town. She's a looker!!Considering what I've seen so far of her diet, I think I'll pass on the brauts...

UtherJoe

Bill Hall
11-19-2008, 01:50 PM
We'll just say there there were advantages for him to get out of the Bronx. He decided to move his cattle mutilation operations up north before the NYC Health Dept. shut him down. I can't think of a better time to go vegan. By next week his wife Bertha will be in town. She's a looker!!Considering what I've seen so far of her diet, I think I'll pass on the brauts...

UtherJoe

Bertha ...
Bertha Butt...
One of the Butt sisters.

slotcarman12078
11-19-2008, 03:12 PM
That was her maiden name.. Bertha Tubbs is her married name.. Sorry I had to digitally manipulate her undercarraige, but there's children around... And Pete can't find skivvies that'll fit her...

http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/slotcarman12078/acd5d750.jpg
Like I said, she's a dream!!!

UtherJoe

slotcarman12078
11-20-2008, 02:25 PM
Happy to report another business moving into the area!! Pepe's septic service has been working on securing a doo doo pumper truck. This lil project started with a tanker train car from our very own Hilltop (Thanks Randy!!), and after some slicing and dicing, a lil JB and some careful surgery on a broken lindy van roof, the pieces started coming together. I did have some MAJOR problems with this job, as evidenced by the crackled paint. I could barely get any paint to stick to this plastic!!! As long as the contents don't leak out, it'll pass inspection. This truck is an experiment using fiber optics (Thanks to Bill Hall) for clearance lights (a pain to get them right without some sort of reference point) combined with LED tail lights and headlights. As per usual, the decals came out crappy, but with this truck, it fits.. In case you can't make it out, the little decal is Pepe le Pew.... I either need a better printer or better software for decals..

http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/slotcarman12078/8923384a.jpg

http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/slotcarman12078/96828a04.jpg

Updates to follow as the project progresses..

Bill Hall
11-20-2008, 03:04 PM
Nicely done Joeled... the tank fits very well!

Tip: Use you lighter to shape the end of the fiber into a nice round lens. Flick yer bic and ease end of the whip near the flame. Just sneak up on it and watch closely...the fiber end will curl back perfectly into a marker light.

You'll see a little heat will make a small convex end. More heat will roll it back into a good sized tail lamp. There are limits of course.

Regardless of what yer making it is best to heat the end. It really helps brighten things up. You'll see!

Hilltop Raceway
11-20-2008, 04:31 PM
The poop pedalar looks good Sltman. Tank seems to fit good. I'd strip the tank and spray again though, "shi... happens" you know. The DOT would definately pull you over if they saw paint flaking like that, must be "corrosive" with no placards. Try placing "Service" underneath "Pete's Septic" and to the right of Pepe. Should give a little more room, just a thought...RM
P.S. Try some primer first. Duplicolor also makes plastic adhesion promoter in a spray can. Spray on a couple off coats, then paint.

slotcarman12078
11-20-2008, 04:51 PM
Thanks Bill!! They were falling through the holes. The fiber you sent is half the size of my smallest drill bit. I have 4 projects going on at once and pieces parts are mixed up all over my desk. I have an AW suburban (won't accept my paint) and a VW bus that need the dip tank (..need something to fill it with), the tanker that needs help, and the Misery..oops..Mystery Machine needing new taillights. Picked up a low temp glue gun..gonna try it out with the tanker later.. The Vee Wee bus is gonna be cool if I can get the pieces together.. Bob...addicted to horrorclix...Zilla is gonna love it. I need some decals printed up if anyone has the capabilities to do them right. My inkjet/puter set up can't do them. They're just too small a print and it becomes a big blur on the printer..

UtherJoeLED

Bill Hall
11-20-2008, 09:10 PM
Yuppers those lil whiskers are hard on the eyeballs and frustrating to my crazy flipper fingers. If ya dont have the micro bit index here's the cromagnon method approved by the Boyscouts of America.

An easy way to do the pilot hole is heating a needle or pin up and plunging it through the body...close enough for horse shoes and handgrenades. A crack lighter and a small pair of vice grips is helpful if ya wanna do a bunch.

With the pilot hole completed you can then take a 1/16 bit and chamfer a proper seat for the optic lens. The lens should settle nicely into the relief and the whip is secured on the backside with clear silicone. I generally use the bit in hand for pin point control. Ideally you'll not want to take more than about a 1/4 or 1/2 a mm out. Just enough to settle the lens.

So basically smoke a tiny hole through it and buzz a light countersink on it.

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That's about 3/4, maybe creepin' up on 1mm deep. Obviously you dont have to french the lens in flush like this for markers on your trucks.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC05141.jpg

Using the lighter trick you should be able to get the end to look like this. This is about the max I've achieved. For smaller markers... just use less fire.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC05142.jpg

Looks like this when ya drop it in the hole. Rather than a flush french like the deuce, by limiting the counterbore you can still have the lens mounted proud of the surface, it will also sit more securely and have a nicely finished surrounding edge.

slotcarman12078
11-21-2008, 12:22 AM
Soldering in tight places is a bear!!! Especially when those tight places are plastic!! I tried to snap off a few shots as the work progressed, but they were mostly blurry. Probably due to the flux buzz I was experiencing.. Pepe's sewer service is in business..

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Little wires everywhere!! The biggest hassle was the replaced headlight. The LEDs for the 3 clearance lights and headlights share a resistor. In hindsight, I should of ran a forth wire to the headlight for the ground. To make matters worse, the tractor body section had been broken off months ago, and was permanently glued on, so routing wires had to be done the hard way.

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The decals looked cruddy enough, but with the leaky cap on top, the whole truck looks really crappy now. A wash of "shaken, not stirred" rust wash with the appropriate chunks and a wash of grimey black after that makes for a dirty messy pumper truck. Sadly, most of the decals went with the wash. Alchohol based products don't like decals I guess.. I also should have done two extra "whips for side marker lights in the back. Too late!!! Next time I will!! Looks like pepe's has been around for a while! Glad this ones in the books now. Time for something "cleaner"

UtherJoe

bobhch
11-21-2008, 07:13 PM
Uther Joe,

I like the CRUDDY look alot! This is a Poo Poo truck and should look this way.

Bob...OH cRuD...zilla

satellite1
11-23-2008, 04:08 PM
Here you find a "light thread" I found in 1 railroad forum.

http://www.all-model-railroading.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=5205

slotcarman12078
11-23-2008, 11:21 PM
:thumbsup: Thanks for the primer on primer, Randy!! I just wanted that stinky truck done, I've been doodling with it since your package came. I will try to find a can of that duplicolor special primer next time I'm in the "zone". I bought that newer "made for plastic" paint and was hopeful it would cover, but it dispersed like oil on water in certain spots. The tanker did the same thing. I ended up painting the tanker with 2 coats black rustolium and followed it up with the white. I will say it was a pain in the rear to cut that tanker cleanly. The fittings were buzzed off the extra parts of the red tanker and applied with a skim of JB weld. The same for the end cap. The fit is snug between top and base of the tank, so I can redo the fibers a little better, (I put too much nail polish on them) and the hot melt glue won't work holding the fiber in place to the LED ( I tried) there is too much light loss. I also want to add 2 more fibers to the corners on the back, as the tail lights are close together.

:thumbsup: Thank you Bill for showing me the countersink trick and the flame trick. I am currently watching a few drill indexes with the teeny tiny sizes, and will probably grab one this or next week. Between all these projects, I managed to install and power 22 more street lights, and light up 4 more buildings this week. I also redid the resistors on the Nova and got it up and running as correctly as I can with it's pick up issues. I shortened up the windows on the front of the pickups and it works, but I shortened them too much. There's hardly any travel and I'm afraid if I bend them back they'll break. There is a clearance issue with the 2.0mm LEDs in the nose of that particular car. It also doesn't help the two younger kids had half days for parent teacher conferences 3 days this week. And my neck has a knot in it the size of New Jersey (feels like it anyway). 4 weeks now!!

:thumbsup: Thanks Satellite for the link!! I'm always looking for new ideas!! I still have that lack of knowledge when it come to capacitors. Sooner or later, I will need to delve into them.

I have a wild idea, but it just might work.. at least on a small scale. I wouldn't try to pump out 500 pieces this way.. I love the control you get operating a bridgeport milling machine. The precision is phenominal, but I can't afford one, and the TM will never let me put it in the living room. :rolleyes: But on a smaller scale, what if I were to rig up a plate with body mounts and a cushioned strap over the car body. This will hold the car body level and mostly vibration free. Then take another plate and mount two parallel sets of RR tracks on it. Connect two flat cars with a third plate with a cradle to hold my dremel magic wand (flex extension) and go to town on a 66 GTO tail light panel... Milling out the tail light slots is the hard part. Once they are there I can either mold the body with the holes pre milled, and make the master taillight lens from the body or mill some more bodies to fit the tail light lens. I really want to light my GTO, 1. Because it'll look cool as hayl, and 2. It'll make it harder for me to swipe the chassis out from under it!! My poor goat is chassisless for the third time in 5 months!! :freak:

The 1.8 mm warm white LEDs should be in by the end of the month to my regular supplier. It looks like he's out of red 1.8 mm and I hope he's reordering them. Water clear just don't look right.I am still waiting to hear back from Evans design on the status of the new board they're working on, and if the individual parts are going to be available as I was first told. That's all the news for now!! Until later!!!:wave:

UtherJoe

tjd241
11-23-2008, 11:28 PM
Nice Fece-Wagon JoeLed... Looks better with the wash and worn graphics too!! nd

slotcarman12078
11-23-2008, 11:41 PM
Thanks, Nuther!! I have 1 more set of decals and I'm undecided if I want to leave them or redo them. I'm leaning on the leave them side, and you just swayed me even more that way. The "city" is getting rather grungy too, and the people are starting to hit the streets again :eek: (thanks to Bob... Horrorclix is his middle name..Zilla turning me on to them). I'm waiting for packages..some more than two weeks now and it's starting to drive me crazy. I want to get some more businesses open in town, and I can't without people. The dead center of town will be (literally) when the zombies start arriving!!! C'mon USPS!! Get the lead out!! :thumbsup:
UtherJoe

P.S., Thanks for the link too!!

NTxSlotCars
11-24-2008, 12:49 AM
Great looking truck mod! Looks gooey and smelly. I'm gonna have to wash my hands when I leave this thread.

slotcarman12078
11-25-2008, 03:49 PM
The mystery machine is in the bag. Hopefully it will hold up. Just in case, I didn't JB the tail lights in. To whoever gets this, I will replace the LEDs for as long as necessary, until I get it right. Here's how it looks....

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McWilsons has finally got a decent band in house and customers are starting to frequent the bar. Of course, having anything to do with my "outlaws" (inlaws), fights are going to regularly occur (like at my wedding reception). Shown are a few of my horror/heroclix, some in their modified states (arms relocated or props added) to accomodate the situation. I never had so much fun doing a table. This table being "temporary", I'm not going too crazy in the detail department, so please excuse the hot glue where visible.

http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/slotcarman12078/bac6ecc9.jpg

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The arsonist has been identified and is in the process of being apprehended, thanks to spider man for the help. The hitch hiker had her arms transplanted so she could be facing the right way while hitchin' a ride, and since it's "cold out" I painted a pair of pants on her. The mystery machine likes to stop at that corner and she's passed at every offer for a ride. My kid likes spidey so he had to find a perch. Four years ago, when my mother in law was in the hospital we used to pass a dairy farm going to visit her. We had my little dude believing that brown cows make chocolate milk, and pink cows make strawberry milk. He'd always miss seeing the pink one!! I had to do a pink cow for the farm just to razz him!! Mrs Farmer is heading out to slop the pigs. Oh, one more thing, Bertha showed up yesterday..If the front view wasn't priceless enough, I almost died when I saw the lollipop stuck to her hind quarter!! Til later...

UtherJoe

bobhch
11-27-2008, 09:48 AM
UtherJoe,

Looks like you are having a blast with those Clix dudes and dude-ets. Every time you post picks I just can't believe what I am seeing.

Those pics of the Mystery Van and all are Far Out.

Pink Cow...hahahahahahah :o

Bob...Revenge of the parents...muhahahahhah...zilla

slotcarman12078
11-27-2008, 11:00 AM
About 5 years ago, I was working for a company called Cannon Express in NW Arkansas. One day while layed over at the terminal, I was in the midst of a 3 hour solo jam session with my guitars when something weird happened. The tendons in my left arm suddenly were tight and then poof! My left hand got numb.:eek: A few minutes later all was feeling normal again, except my left thumb :thumbsup: felt funny. It took almost two weeks to realize I lost the movement at the joint mid thumb. I could move it "manually", but I couldn't bend it on it's own, and I had no strength in it. I feel it happening again. The tightness in the forearm, and as I recall the "pain in the neck" was there too. Stress was the major culprit then, and I'm sure it has alot to do with it now. Being cooped up in the house doesn't help any, but the TM can't deal with the extra two kids on her own so she needs me here. Up against the wall kinda stress. Throw the sister in law into the mix and it's pure hell.. I believe my customs are about to get sloppier :cry: as my dexterity is about to hit the crapper. To add to the stress, I found out Tuesday that the $270.00 a week unemployment is too much money for me to qualify for healthcare. I guess I'll be living with it for now.

UtherJoe

bobhch
11-29-2008, 10:32 PM
Uther Joe,

If it makes you feel any better I plan on casting up that Chevy-Van (Mini-Lindy) this Winter and a few of them have your name on them at no cost as long as you promise to have some fun with them.....take care man. :)

Bob...breath in...now out...in...out...zilla

slotcarman12078
12-02-2008, 07:17 PM
Not much going on on the LED front lines this week. I'm still waiting for my dexterity to get back in my hands.. But I did get another batch of people to move into the area. Man I love this city!! Dirty, grungy, nasty...you get my drift.

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It's about time the Movie theater reopened.. It's been shut down since the mid 50's...

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That's it for now.. Gotta get more chassis and supplies and start getting better control of my fingers. I got no grip right now. Til later!!:wave:

UtherJoe

resinmonger
12-02-2008, 10:03 PM
Must be a pretty cool town if Sponge Bob wants to live there...

slotcarman12078
12-02-2008, 11:04 PM
That's what I say to myself everytime the TM goes near the table!! She has been known to have jealous fits any time "other women" are around... And I got a bunch on the table!! I give them a month...two max.. and they'll be getting ripped up....:lol:

UtherJoe

resinmonger
12-03-2008, 12:04 AM
Maybe the TM would relent if you had Spongebob and Patrick...

slotcarman12078
12-03-2008, 12:09 AM
Spongy is just buying me time...tick, tick tick....

bobhch
12-03-2008, 12:09 AM
Dirty, grungy, nasty...RALMAO...that is great...hahahahahah

Love what you did and the Night of the Living Dead is a great Re-Opener for your Theater!

Patrick has no nose. That is odd...just saying. I'm a Goofy Goober....he's a Goofy Goober....You can be a Goofy Goober too.:hat::jest::hat:

Bob...you guys are crazier than me...zilla

slotcarman12078
12-03-2008, 12:19 AM
This picture starts to tell the rest of the story going on here.. The movie is the hint.. If you look below the theater sign, you'll see one creepin up on the cop.. here's another view...


http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/slotcarman12078/9f9fd347.jpg

Then the movie choice makes a bit more sense... Sadly, the LEDs and the signs in the bar obscure the view in there.. I got the start of a band, a waitress, and uuuuummmm, well I guess it's ladies night too....

UtherJoe

slotcarman12078
12-05-2008, 08:05 PM
This is a back burner project that has finally gotten pulled up to the front burner. One mini lindy tow truck, one and 1/4 AW chassis and a bit of hacking got me to this point. I plan on lighting it front, back and top eventually. It's a difficult color the photograph correctly, and none of the pictures are right. It's not that blue..It's kinda spruce green..it has a tinge of blue in it.. I may paint it..not sure yet.


http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/slotcarman12078/87f34f0b.jpg

Also shown are the two cigar box bodies I am still looking for parts for. I need glass for both and bumpers for the vette if anyone has extras. Bad chrome is OK as I plan on painting it. I can get away with lexan for the willys but the compound curves with the vette make it a bit too challenging for my simple mind..

http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/slotcarman12078/cccef3bc.jpg

The Monopoly car is my first victim for resin molding next year. I am going to be experimenting with ways to extend the wheelbase of the chassis to keep the casting simple and maintain the dimensional integrity of the body.


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I feel like I'm in a time warp here.. Just put up the Xmas tree today and it seems like I just took it down 2 months ago... Yet it's only been 1 1/2 weeks since I worked on a custom slot car, and it feels like a year... Very strange...

UtherJoe

XracerHO
12-06-2008, 12:35 PM
Uther Joe, you are Amazing with LED's and really like the Tow Truck and how you extended the chassis to match the wheel base! Always wanted to motorize this tow truck and now know how to do it, Thanks! The town scenery is great! ..RL

Hilltop Raceway
12-06-2008, 01:06 PM
Great work on the wrecker UJ :thumbsup::thumbsup: Those things have lots of detail. The blue looks good to me!!! The chromes make it come alive!!! RM

slotcarman12078
12-06-2008, 01:18 PM
Thanks guys!! The chassis extension is only in phase 1.. I still need to tie the two pieces together as the front part swivels on the screw. I'm thinking bridging them together at the pin cutouts. The front screw head is too big so she don't stay on the track very good, and I have no post in the rear yet either. I plan on tricking it out all the way eventually with a sling on the back too.. I just need to figure out how to make the idea in my head a reality, and make it durable enough to handle my driving!! So many projects and every puzzle is missing pieces!!! Sooner or later, they all come together though....

UtherJoe

joez870
12-06-2008, 01:19 PM
Nice fab work on the wrecker, Ujoe! :thumbsup: How does it run out?

slotcarman12078
12-06-2008, 01:41 PM
The body isn't very well balanced.. Kinda light in the back end as she sits now, but by the time I put the twin flashers on the roof, the rest of the lights and resistors and the sling on the tail..who knows?? Most of my customs are designed for slow motion travel, but a traction magnet might help with the handling. I put a 9 toother in to slow it down some, but even that is a bit too fast for me. I also want to look for wider pickups, especially for the extended chassis. They don't like curves set back like this.. My fire truck shares the same pickup woes...

UtherJoe

joez870
12-06-2008, 02:59 PM
Gotcha covered, Ujoe!

You need a couple pairs of the wide "Power steering" shoes.

Shoot me your addy in my PM box and I'll send you some!

slotcarman12078
12-07-2008, 01:22 AM
Sometimes it all comes together.... OK..enough dire straits.. Friday nite's chat was fun, and inspirational... and I'm not talking about towel racks... I got to do a little investigative snooping, and in the midst of a little side conversation I got hit upside the head by a wicked cool memory...and an idea scaled down a bit.

Last year I was scouring the web for building and painting custom guitars (another dream I never got to fulfill) and ran across a video of a guy doing a very strange yet cool paint job on a custom. He took a 5 gallon pail of water, and dripped oil based paint in it. Then he swirled it just a little to make funky patterns in it. He grabbed a stripped guitar body, and proceeded to dunk it slowly into the pail. while it was submersed, he brushed the paint aside with a rag, and slowly pulled the guitar back out. OMG it looked wicked.
This morning, the TM took my old 8 pack of testors paints off the china cabinet. Holy cow, I thought that was long gone!!!! So, paint in hand, I decided to give it a try.... I had a junk van body hanging around on my desk so I decided, why should Zilly and Hilly have all the painting fun?? Time to take a dunk, Mr. scrap van...

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Not bad for a first timer..Needed to swirl the paint a bit more...Hmmmm what else have I got sitting here collecting dust....

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One mini lindy missing parts..oh well!!!! I'll try again!!!

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Not too bad for 2 year old paint and a bucket of water!!! Now picture that effect with flourescent day glo...Far out man!! Peter Max painted slot cars!!! My project list is getting longer instead of shorter, but I'll get caught up someday! I swear!! Peace out!!

Uther...my thumbnail and fingernail match the cars.....Joe

Bill Hall
12-07-2008, 01:43 AM
How cool is that? Took a trip and never left the farm.

BTW: Regarding yer projects list?..... and getting caught up?...

Yer phunny! Dream on!

We are NEVER gonna let that happen....hahahahahahaha!

joez870
12-07-2008, 04:03 AM
How cool is that? Took a trip and never left the farm.

BTW: Regarding yer projects list?..... and getting caught up?...

Yer phunny! Dream on!

We are NEVER gonna let that happen....hahahahahahaha!

He means it, Ujoe. Even if I wasn't still finding the odd cool bits here and there...

I was down in the slotcave today, trying to decide what to work on. The bench is a disaster and I have stuff everywhere. SO MUCH STUFF! It looks like a slot car factory (a mini one) blew the heck up, yeah? Right!

I have decided that I will never get anything done until everything is in its place. I started on one end of the bench and moved aprox. 16" across in 2 hrs of sorting. (my bench is 6' long and 2' deep) I'll get there. I'll do a bit each day....or else!:rolleyes:


As far as your bodies:thumbsup: go, mate, I like the swirly paint!

tjd241
12-07-2008, 07:46 AM
Joeled.... Good idea, I like the Mako. The makers of hunting products have a similar water transfer method for applying camo "skin" to almost anything you can shake a stick at. I've actually seen it done on TV... pretty cool. nd

http://www.camo-solutions.com/camo_process.htm

slotcarman12078
12-07-2008, 01:24 PM
After sleeping on it, I got some more thought into the process of paint dispersion and swirling methods.. These first few were simple basic plop a few drips of testors paints onto the bucket, swirl and dunk. I am wondering and will try (as soon as figure out my next victims) a few things.. My paint department is woefully understocked so I'm limited in selection, but I want to try spray bomb paint to see how it behaves. I also plan on attempting a more controlled drip and pull method so I can make real patterns instead of the acid trip effect I got with my first few.

An example of this would be an orange and black combo..If pooled and dragged right, tiger stripes might be do-able.. A GTO tigger car would be coooool :thumbsup: Black and white, well zebra.. A couple jungle themed hummers?? Or a draguir tiger stripe paint job?? Horrorclix has a clown with a sack of noggins :hat: ...Hows about a white rag top clown car with multicolor dots?? I'm not going to dwell on this painting concept forever, but experimentation sure is fun!!! What's cool about the process is how the paint sticks to the body as it gets dunked. And cammo is do-able with the right color paints too!! Use your imagination and see what else we can come up with!!!

Some very important reminders!!! Make sure you push the paint away before pulling the body back out, or it'll double layer the paint. Too much and you lose detail!! Use an eyedropped to dispense the paint for better control (I gotta get a few), You only have so much time before the paint starts to dry on the water.. if it pulls as a sheet instead of swirling, it's probably too late to dunk. Have fun!!!

UtherJoe

bobhch
12-07-2008, 06:40 PM
UtherJoe,

All I can say is FAR OUT!!!!!!!!!!!! Now this is my CUP OF TEA and that last Swirly Vette you did is soooooooooooooooooooooooo Cool man! They are all great but, that Corvette is right outa the 70s man....yeah!

Have this thread on speed dial now. Sweet! :D:roll::eek::hat::)

Bob...I gotta try this...zilla

slotcarman12078
12-07-2008, 07:31 PM
There must have been a weak spot in the paint. After dipping in future I found it. The last vette is in the boo boo tank taking a bath. Some careful experimentation will resume when the kids are in school. I found my next victim to try this with and I'm attempting spray bomb paint this time. A little white, a little orange pearl.. Hope the fisheyes stay away this time....

In other news, I some how made it to elder statesman status... Does this mean I need to wear a tie now??? I hope not..it'll look kinda funny without a shirt!!

Uther elder Joe

win43
12-07-2008, 09:38 PM
WOW Man :dude: THE COLORS (waving hand in front of face) THE COLORS.

What a long strange trip this is gonna be. Super cool slotcarman. Reminds me of old county fairs with a spinning piece of shiny paper and squirting paint out of ketchup bottles.

Bill Hall
12-07-2008, 10:05 PM
WOW Man :dude: THE COLORS (waving hand in front of face) THE COLORS.

What a long strange trip this is gonna be. Super cool slotcarman. Reminds me of old county fairs with a spinning piece of shiny paper and squirting paint out of ketchup bottles.

Reminds me of my favorite painting shirt!

Hilltop Raceway
12-08-2008, 12:19 AM
Reminds me of a toy kaleidoscope, look in one end, hold the other end up to the light, and twist the tube. They had some cool colors!!! UJ, that's some multitasking paint work!!! RM

slotcarman12078
12-08-2008, 11:19 AM
Well, I gave the spraybomb paint a try with the dip method, and what a mess!!! :eek:They are way too thin to float right and became a gooey mess the instant the car body hit it. Needless to say, the jag hit the reject bucket almost instantly!! :freak: The testors is the way to go, unless you want to experiment some more. As i said earlier, my resources in the paint dept. are limited. Until tax return time, anyway!! I figured I better post this quick before someone tried this in this manner!! SPRAY BOMBS WON"T WORK!!! If you're going to try this use junk bodies first!!!!

UtherJoe

slotcarman12078
12-10-2008, 07:53 PM
Tried to do a red/white/blue swirly job today and it was another cottage cheese mess.. I'm doing something different from the first time, evidently, but what it is eludes me.. The only possible variable was water temp... The poor jag got deep sixed with this one.. the A pillars broke while attempting yet another cleaning. I'm all out of white so until I get more paint this project is at a standstill.. Back to ebay for more paint... Noone sells them around here.. :cry: stooopid walmart!!

UtherJoe

sethndaddy
12-10-2008, 10:24 PM
Elder statesman just means your old. Bill Halls use ta say "dead", but he made Hankster change it, lmao.

slotcarkid12
12-12-2008, 11:21 AM
Hi I'm slotcarman12078's son. My name is Ryan. Well, back 2 the subject, good job dad. Hey dad how do you do the paint job???? Looks cool :thumbsup:. Have any other cars with :cool:cool paint jobs??? I would like to know stuff about it here. If any 1 could tell me thanks.







Ryan

GoodwrenchIntim
12-12-2008, 11:49 AM
those are awesome paint jobs, I may have to try that. All florecent colors!!!!!

Hilltop Raceway
12-12-2008, 12:09 PM
Welcome Ryan!!! Glad to have you here!!! Painting, let's see. Get you a scrap piece of flat plastic and a can of spray paint. Practice making a few passes on the scrap. Lay down a few light coats. Then come back with some heavy coats, just enough so it doesn't run. When you feel comfortable, get one of your Dad's cars to pratice with, you don't want to mess up your stuff!!! I'm sure he'll appreciate your eagerness to learn on his cars. If you do mess up, you can always strip it and start over. I know, I mess up all the time!!! So good luck and have fun!!! RM

slotcarman12078
12-12-2008, 12:15 PM
Thanks, Ed.. I feel older already!! And welcome Ryan (kid) to hobbytalk.. Just remember, I'll be watching you!! :freak:

The method I used needs to be expanded a bit.. Use warm water. This seemed to make the paint kinda "skin" on the water surface. Have all your paints open and ready to drip in, to keep the curing as close as possible. A drop of paint goes a long way!! Use something thin, like a piece of wire, to swirl the paint. Once the dip is started, you can't stop. Make sure you sweep the paint away before pulling the body out, or it'll double paint the body and you'll have a mess!!! I used the brush type paints for this (the small squarish bottles) from testors. I do want to see how them flourescents come out!!! I have a important project waiting for that type of paint to get purchased!!! When you pull the body out of the water, gently shake off the water droplets, and blow off the rest of them. I used a post tapping tool to hold the body, and have a place ready to stick it after dipping to dry. Make sure the body is level while it is drying. The best dip I had was the 70's vette, and I ended up with a blob of paint at the nose, ruining that one, because it wasn't level. And again, experiment with scrap bodies first!!! Have fun!!

UtherJoe