I think Sewart got a good call today @ Dega.

BS!!smith was hit by sewart!

maybe but you still can't advance your position below the yellow noatter what the circumstances. On the other hand I do not believe that NASCAR should give Smith a lower finish than second.

Speedways are soo lame. So much luck involved in missing the wrecks. Then there's a freakin line on the track you can't cross over. It's just silly. Boooring...

lol, true, nothing like Bristol!

Smith should have turned Tony!!! Blocking and wrecking are ok in NASCAR eyes.

Agred Tim Mc!

Speedways are soo lame. So much luck involved in missing the wrecks. Then there's a freakin line on the track you can't cross over. It's just silly. Boooring...

Dido!!!

I knew this was going to be a thread once the race ended.
As much as I am a Stewart fan, I believe Smith should of had it. He was forced down there.
Of course, you will have them guys giving it their all at the end..like that.
That yellow line rule, pff....that is ridic.

Smith had a run and he went high which he should have kept going but tried the slingshot on tony and tony blocked, nascar said you are able to go below the yellow line if you are forced and tony forced him clearly. Smith could have wrecked him and the entire field but didn't, which is one in his bank for a later time. Even though he didn't win it that was the best thing he could have done IMO. Rules are Rules though its not like you can throw a time out flag while its happening. Def sucks for smith but smoke finally got his win.

We all saw it Regan Smith won today, Tony forced him below the line. Tony wouldn't have been happy if he didn't go below the line but instead held his positoin and wrecked the field. Tony gave it a shot but Smith was the winner. It would be nice to see Tony get a win before he leaves Gibbs.

Smith showed maturity and class... something Tony has never been able to produce. Like last year, the third place car wrecked the top two...Nascar was ok with that.

Too bad for Regan.

Speedways are soo lame. So much luck involved in missing the wrecks. Then there's a freakin line on the track you can't cross over. It's just silly. Boooring...

Yup, speedway races should be only 3 laps...'cause that's all they end up being anyway after the WWF cautions. Wait, I forgot, they need the other 492 miles to 'eliminate' 2/3 of the good cars.

As far as Stewart goes, they needed to give it to him so he wouldn't commit suicide or even homicide.

:rolleyes:-----------------------:rolleyes:

Yep three laps--Green/White/Crash!!!

If I was Smith I woulda drove through Tony when he blocked the high side ;)

I don't like the line rule at all. I think if you have the cajones to pass in the grass and make it stick then you should reap the rewards! On the other hand, you can go below the line if forced but you still can't advance your position. Dumb rule but still a rule.

... Smith could have wrecked him and the
entire field but didn't......

I hope some day, some hard headed guy, when faced with being 'forced'
below the line, chooses to NOT go below the line,
and wipes out a half dozen cars... including the guy blocking..
Then, in the interview says
"I didn't want to get penalized for going below the line"...

I'm a Tony fan... admitted.
But I think Smith had no choice.
Other than wrecking.
And obviously no time to give the spot back, which cancels the pass...

Another sad day for Nascar fans!!!

NASCAR just posted Smith as finishing 18th!!! If that isnt a load of $#@%&
I dont know what is.
You go for the Win and NASCAR penalizes you 16 or 17 positions???

While I'm happy Tony got the win, NASCAR is still a joke, and it always will be. I'm sure Big Bill is rolling in his grave.

And yes, they screwed Regan, but what else would you expect?

probaly the only chance regan will have to win..i would have spun tony!

now that's just wrong, Smith learned a valuable lesson today.NASCAR just posted Smith as finishing 18th!!! If that isnt a load of $#@%&
I dont know what is.
You go for the Win and NASCAR penalizes you 16 or 17 positions???

Not only was it a bad day for smith, how about all the Tire IMPLOSIONS!!!! huh? when the heck is nascar going to step in and say BYE BYE goodyear.....will it take another accident like #3 to wake up? Old Denny boy sure feeling it now... nothing like going 190+ and slamming in the wall.

Put them on Pirellis and watch how much better the racing gets. Competition breeds quality. Goodyear has become complacent.

The tires?...remote detonation to keep fans from inquiring about all the phantom cautions...hehehe

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Good one!!!

Not only was it a bad day for smith, how about all the Tire IMPLOSIONS!!!! huh? when the heck is nascar going to step in and say BYE BYE goodyear.....will it take another accident like #3 to wake up? Old Denny boy sure feeling it now... nothing like going 190+ and slamming in the wall.its hard to whip goodyear when the hoosier tires were popping like ballons in the arca race as well the tires were fine the track surface has changed and as for the finish think it was a bad call i am neutral on both drivers but tony forced him down there

So the moral of this story is if you are leading and heading toward the checker, leave the bottom open...when they break out of line and try to pass, drop 'em in the pickle barrel. Race won!

Brilliant call :rolleyes:

Tony won end of story.

The RULE is you cannot go below the yellow line unless forced, if forced you cannot advance your position. It does not matter if the rule is stupid, outdated or whatever. The fact of the matter is that when the race was run those were the rules in place. I will give NASCAR this, at least they stuck to the book and did not come up with some lame-o excuse to change the rule on the fly. WE have see way to much of that in the past.

Was he forced, OH YEAH he was forced, so therefore any pass he made was null and void. He should have been credited with second.

How on earth did the BIG RED TRAILOR OF IDIOTS say he finished 18th?

Tony won end of story.


You mean NASCAR won't review this thread and change their ruling? Damn.

O.K., well then then I'll just make fun of him for looking like Ron Jeremy.

You mean NASCAR won't review this thread and change their ruling? Damn.


LOL, I doubt it.

I still say he should have wrecked Tony. A win and many more fans for Regan would have been a sweet deal!

its hard to whip goodyear when the hoosier tires were popping like ballons in the arca race as well the tires were fine the track surface has changed and as for the finish think it was a bad call i am neutral on both drivers but tony forced him down there

yea i was thinking about that as well, but this year Goodyear has dropped the ball big time in providing the best tire per race per track conditions. The racing has just sucked. Lots of races have had competition yellows? WAY WAY TOO many.

Tony won end of story.

How on earth did the BIG RED TRAILOR OF IDIOTS say he finished 18th?

I think he should have been awarded second also but I think the penalty is a stop and go which would make him last on the lead lap but how do you do a stop and go when the race is over

I thought that was a joke too. If roles are reversed the most likely outcome is Tony dumps him, or if Tony had been the one passing below the line they'd have let it stand.

I can't stand the way Stewart races.

Also, I hate watching these races and listening to the announcers carry Nascar's water.

LOL... true! Their like the WWE announcers. Jimmy Spencer tonight was about as convincing as his toupee:freak:

Also, I hate watching these races and listening to the announcers carry Nascar's water.

Knowing STEWART was going to block, and/or KNOCK you below the line...KNOCK HIM first....

I wish Smith could have done that, but that's just not right...but NEITHER is putting him all the way back to 18th. It looked pretty obvious the Reagan lifted when he got clipped by Tony QP and went below the line. He wasn't able to give up the spot (and there's NO way he could have at that point w/o SLAMMING the brakes on and wiping out the REST of the field.

I hope NASCAR looks at this and puts him back up to the 2nd spot where he SHOULD have been...otherwise - WHY NOT smack him out of the way (who ever the leader is) NEXT TIME>

(I'm sure the rules put him to the back of the lead lap field or something)

To me, that whole race was a good reason not to have Dega in the chase. This is supposed to be a 10 race play off of the best 12 in Cup, not a crap shoot of who can miss the big one, or at best, who can position themselves to be able to make a move at the end. That’s not racing. That’s “T.V.”

They probably didn't realize Smith and Menard were on the lead lap...that doesn't happen very often after 500 miles.

The blocking is terrible, the bump drafting is terrible. I mean didn't they make it fairly clear a couple years ago that bump drafting in the corners is a no-no? Seems that didn't get mentioned at the Driver's meeting this time. They were constently bump drafting in the corners, Edwards was driving over his head to get to the front at the end.

I won't even mention GoodYear's(BadDecade's) pathetic attempt at tire construction.

LOL Since Tony has been known to frequent an RC race once in awhile, how about some of you transmitter heroes ask him what it's like to drive a stock car at that speed at that place? Then , ask him if your evaluation of his Talladega victory keeps him from sleeping at night. He made more decisions in 15 seconds than most of us did during the entire day.

Be upset at a ruling you disagree with if you want, but any one of those guys deserves utmost respect for what they do at a place like that.


dk

LOL Since Tony has been known to frequent an RC race once in awhile, how about some of you transmitter heroes ask him what it's like to drive a stock car at that speed at that place? Then , ask him if your evaluation of his Talladega victory keeps him from sleeping at night. He made more decisions in 15 seconds than most of us did during the entire day.

Be upset at a ruling you disagree with if you want, but any one of those guys deserves utmost respect for what they do at a place like that.


dk

Like when he purposely (admittedly) wrecked Kenseth at 200mph at Daytona a couple years ago? If I remember right it was because Kenseth side drafted him "too close" earlier in the race.

Lots of decisons, yes. Lots of bad ones also yes. When you watch him drive a stock car it's no surprise he's a RC racer. He uses about the same style I see a lot of people use with a RC car.

I don't think what he did at Talladega was all that bad, just a general statement about how the guy drives. I'd respect him if he admitted it instead of always looking for someone else to blame whenever there's an incident.

If it had been Tony behind Biffle wrecking him instead of Edwards we all know what Tony would have said. That Biffle lifted. Wait we already saw that same situation last year or the year before didn't we.

I have no problem with Stewart winning, even though I feel Smith should have been credited with 2nd. I understand why they have the "yellow" line rule at the Restrictor plate tracks. My biggest problem is why don't they have this rule at every track? See end of Kansas race they were all on they apron as they came to the line? Granted no passes took place there but if they had it would have stood because the apron is not out of bounds anywhere but Daytona and Dega.

I don't remember who it was a few years back talking about a "pass" on the apron at Loudon. "if you pave it they are going to race on it"

One thing I noticed, Smoke needs to get on the "Jared" plan. How's he going to race the Chili Bowl when He can't get in the car??? lol

Like when he purposely (admittedly) wrecked Kenseth at 200mph at Daytona year before last? If I remember right it was because Kenseth side drafted him "too close" earlier in the race.

Lots of decisons, yes. Lots of bad ones also yes. When you watch him drive a stock car it's no surprise he's a RC racer. He uses about the same style I see a lot of people use with a RC car.

I don't think what he did at Talladega was all that bad, just a general statement about how the guy drives. I'd respect him if he admitted it instead of always looking for someone else to blame whenever there's an incident.
uh-oh...I tangled with Pat on an early Monday morning.;) When you say Kenseth, you mean Wisconsin...and we both know what NOT to do to Wisconsin.
Understandable argument. However,(and Arnie can back me up on this) Tony is a person that is very hard to figure out. What you(and I) see and hear on most Sundays in regards to T.S. is so far different from what he is in a non-Nascar setting. I'm not even talking about at the pit bench @ an RC track. Respect is difficult to recover from those who have a strong dislike no matter how it's reconciled. I have dislikes towards a couple Sunday drivers myself, but I will never presuppose that they aren't oozing abilities that I don't have. That being said, I have a tough time saying they don't deserve MY respect because I feel that I'm not a peer to them...just an outside observer.
It's ok Pat...Kvapil is from Wisconsin and he deserves your love too. :wave:
j/k
Another double shot of joe to Mr. Simkins desk please.
dk

:)

No argument that Tony is a fantastic driver. I can't really think of an example of him screwing up on the track. It's just the stuff he does on purpose on the track is the problem. No doubt he's probably a cool guy away from the track.

Don't make me pull a T.S. on you at the next BRL race Dusty! LOL

Every driver in Nascar is an awesome driver. Well except for Michael waltrip, I have to draw the line somewhere!

Come on now, Pat. Mike Wallace blew a tire which then hit Michael Waltrip and neither of them wrecked themselves or any other cars...Pretty good if you ask me...lol

Even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut! :)

You'll never get the chance Pat...I still race NIMH.:wave:
Hope to see ya sometime.

dk