http://news.yahoo.com/s/newsarama/20080822/en_newsarama/warnerbroswillrebootsupermanfilmfranchise

Maybe a reboot ain't such a bad idea.

And.....

http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/news/2008-08-25-superman-creators_N.htm?se=yahoorefer

Sad to still see this is still going on.

There's a guy over on MySpace who created a profile for Superman The Man of Steel, hyping Bryan Singer's involvement, Brandon Routh returning, a Bollywood actress signing on as Superman's love interest, AND, to top it all off, John Williams doing the score.

Sheesh!

Haven't we seen the origin story enough already?!
Sheesh!

And then there's this obscure little unwatched show called SMALLVILLE.

And there was something called "Lois and Clark".

REBOOT. What is the purpose of a reboot? Why is this needed? My point is that the movies are far from the only Superman story out there, in print and television as well. Each one has its own take on Superman. Why the need to call it a "reboot", and not just make a movie about Superman.

And then there's this obscure little unwatched show called SMALLVILLE.

And there was something called "Lois and Clark".

REBOOT. What is the purpose of a reboot? Why is this needed? My point is that the movies are far from the only Superman story out there, in print and television as well. Each one has its own take on Superman. Why the need to call it a "reboot", and not just make a movie about Superman.

Because the term "reboot" serves to declare: "We realize the previous attempt pretty well sucked and we ain't gonna' do that again."

It didn't suck. Wait, are we talking Chris Reeve or Brandon Routh? Yeah, the Routh one was still pretty good. It didn't capture the charm of Reeve's original performance, but neither did Superman II, Superman III, or Superman IV.

I want to know when Tom Welling will get to wear "The Suit."

"No flights, no tights!"

Which is partly why Smallville fell into suckitude.

Eh... really? I just finished Season 2, and reading the season summaries on Wiki, it seems that the show never (please pardon the pun) gets off the ground.

Come on, we KNOW he's Superman, let him be Superman.

I don't think I'll pursue it any further, then.

Eh... really? I just finished Season 2, and reading the season summaries on Wiki, it seems that the show never (please pardon the pun) gets off the ground.

Come on, we KNOW he's Superman, let him be Superman.

I don't think I'll pursue it any further, then.

Without spoiling it too much, Clark has a psychotic episode in a later season, during which he flies. It's a phenominal scene! After he's better, he says he could only fly then, not anymore. :mad: LAME!!!!

It always looks stupid when they show him floating around like a butterfly. He was supposed to be super-strong and able to "leap", not fly around like "Caspar" the "Friendly Ghost". I guess he's got an "anti-gravity" glad now...

Oh, I think he's been able to hover in the comics for a long time.
Plus, if all he could do is leap, he couldn't change speed and direction in flight, push things, etc.
Even in the 1930s cartoons he was doing more than just leaping. In the death ray episode he pulled a falling building upright.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYMynm63A-k

There's long been a theory that his super strength and flight powers are levetation/telekenesis-based.

Interesting that in the Max Fleischman cartoon, he was "picked up by a passing motorist and taken to an orphanage." Also, Krypton was a planet populated by supermen. For all the talk of reboot, Superman's origin has been rewritten several times already.

Oh, I think he's been able to hover in the comics for a long time.
Plus, if all he could do is leap, he couldn't change speed and direction in flight, push things, etc.
Even in the 1930s cartoons he was doing more than just leaping. In the death ray episode he pulled a falling building upright.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYMynm63A-k

There's long been a theory that his super strength and flight powers are levetation/telekenesis-based.
It also goes a bit to explain the fact that, more often than not, his costume isn't damaged unless he's taken a real beating. The theory that I've seen bandied about by fans of Supes is that he's got a sort of force field that surrounds him which is based on telekinesis. Yes, he's still got that super-dense skin of his, but even that will only hold for so long against the likes of Doomsday.

Interesting that in the Max Fleischman cartoon, he was "picked up by a passing motorist and taken to an orphanage." Also, Krypton was a planet populated by supermen. For all the talk of reboot, Superman's origin has been rewritten several times already.It's Fleischer, not Fleischman. And Lois and Clark also made some revisions to the Superman mythology. For one thing, in the origin story as depicted in the comics, Clark's adoptive father dies just before Clark leaves Smallville, and his adoptive mother is never mentioned again. In Lois and Clark, not only are Mr. and Mrs. Kent both alive and well, but Clark regularly phones them and visits them occasionally. And it does seem logical that, if he can fly, he should be able to levitate as well. After all, his power of flight certainly can't be explained by known physics or aerodynamics!

... and in the 1952 origin episode of "The Adventures of Superman", Ma and Pa Kent are named Eben and Sarah. I don't know when the names Jonathan and Martha were first introduced but those are the names I remember from reading the Silver Age comics of my yute.

From Wikepedia:

Golden and Silver Age versions

Although a "passing motorist" is described as having found the infant Kal-L (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kal-L) in the character's first appearance in 1938's Action Comics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Comics) #1, 1939's Superman #1 introduces Superman's adoptive parents to the mythos, with "Mary Kent" being the only parent given a name. The Kents' first names vary in stories from the 1940s. A 1942 Superman novel, The Adventures of Superman by George Lowther, [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma_and_Pa_Kent#cite_note-0) gave the names "Eben and Sarah Kent", which were also used in the Adventures of Superman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventures_of_Superman_%28TV_series%29) television series, but the first extensive retelling of Superman's origin in 1948's Superman #53 names them "John and Mary Kent". Pa Kent is first named Jonathan in Adventure Comics #149 (1950). Ma Kent is first named Marthe in Superboy #12 (1951) and Martha in subsequent appearances.

It also goes a bit to explain the fact that, more often than not, his costume isn't damaged unless he's taken a real beating. The theory that I've seen bandied about by fans of Supes is that he's got a sort of force field that surrounds him which is based on telekinesis. Yes, he's still got that super-dense skin of his, but even that will only hold for so long against the likes of Doomsday.

The reason Supe's costume rarely gets damaged is because his mom sewed it out of the Kryptonian blankets he was wrapped in when found as an infant. 'Least that's how I remember it. Later he learned how to make the material himself in the FOS.

'Course, how and with what an elderly lady sewed this indestructable material together is just another one of lifes mysteries I guess.

how and with what an elderly lady sewed this indestructable material together is just another one of lifes mysteries I guess.She used a needle made from a sliver of metal taken from the spacecraft that brought him to Earth. The thread was made from the same blankets, portions of which were unraveled. I can't remember how the cloth was actually cut. His boots were sewn the same way as the rest of the suit, only they were made from the upholstery inside the ship. The lenses of his Clark Kent glasses were made from broken pieces of the ship's canopy -- the bulky frames hide the rough edges of the glass. This way, he can use his heat vision without having to take off the glasses. All of that was the story in Action Comics #500, anyway.

However, I think the comics did away with this idea quite awhile back, leaving him with suits that do suffer damage and have to be replaced or repaired. They're made of ordinary material, but protected by an aura that surrounds Superman and extends outward just enough to afford the suit some protection. At least that was the most recent story I read.

I think Jonathan and Martha were first said to still be alive into Superman's adulthood back when John Byrne (sp?) revamped the character after the Crisis on Infinite Earths maxi-series.

Qapla'

SSB

She used a needle made from a sliver of metal taken from the spacecraft that brought him to Earth. The thread was made from the same blankets, portions of which were unraveled. I can't remember how the cloth was actually cut.Actually, even a needle made of ordinary Earth steel would penetrate the spaces in the weave, assuming the cloth was woven in the conventional way. The same idea was used in the Alec Guinness comedy The Man In the White Suit.However, I think the comics did away with this idea quite awhile back, leaving him with suits that do suffer damage and have to be replaced or repaired.IIRC, in the very first Lois and Clark episode, Clark/Supes is on the phone with his mom, asking how to get a stain out of his costume. When she asks what kind of stain it is, he replies, "Well, it's a . . . BOMB stain!" :p

I can't remember how the cloth was actually cut. His boots were sewn the same way as the rest of the suit, only they were made from the upholstery inside the ship.
SSB

According to some of the comics, his mother "tricked" him, as a child, into using his heat vision to cut the cloth so she could make the costume. He made the boots himself, cutting strips of upholstery and wrapping them around his feet, squeezing them with super strength which force-welded them into shape.

Hey, remember, he could push around PLANETS back then! And we complain about Irwin Allen logic! ;)

She used a needle made from a sliver of metal taken from the spacecraft that brought him to Earth. The thread was made from the same blankets, portions of which were unraveled. I can't remember how the cloth was actually cut. His boots were sewn the same way as the rest of the suit, only they were made from the upholstery inside the ship. The lenses of his Clark Kent glasses were made from broken pieces of the ship's canopy -- the bulky frames hide the rough edges of the glass. This way, he can use his heat vision without having to take off the glasses. All of that was the story in Action Comics #500, anyway.

However, I think the comics did away with this idea quite awhile back, leaving him with suits that do suffer damage and have to be replaced or repaired. They're made of ordinary material, but protected by an aura that surrounds Superman and extends outward just enough to afford the suit some protection. At least that was the most recent story I read.



Ok, one mystery solved.

By any chance do you know why women always want to talk when there's something good on TV?

By any chance do you know why women always want to talk when there's something good on TV?Because they are constantly testing to see if, in your eyes, they play second fiddle to anything else in the world. Or in some cases, they figure that if they don't care about whatever you're watching, you shouldn't either.

Next?

;)

Qapla'

SSB

By any chance do you know why women always want to talk when there's something good on TV?

I recall an amazing test of my self-control early in our marriage. I had just bought a Walther PPK, and coincidentally Goldfinger was on TV that night. I was sitting, peacefully watching Goldfinger and playing with my new PPK, when my lovely wife decided to revive an argument we were having earlier that I'd thought was settled (arguments are never settled for women).

And yet, she still lives.