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JeffG
08-19-2008, 03:42 PM
I couldn't help but notice that no one as of yet has made any mention of the animated film 'Star Wars: The Clone Wars' and was curious as to whether or not any of you guys have seen it. I've read some pretty disturbing reviews about it which lead me to believe that Mr. Lucas has learned absolutely nothing about what goes into a good story.

After redeeming himself somewhat from episode 1 to a noticeable improvement in episode 3, it seems he's hell bent on destroying his series again with lame jokes, annoying characters and bad dialog-or so I've heard. I'm usually pretty open to new films and new ideas within established series' but I have no desire to see him ruin the saga any further.

Roland
08-19-2008, 05:28 PM
I am not motivated to see this animated film. I don't think I can stomach it.

spindrift
08-19-2008, 06:16 PM
I had ZERO interest in this movie right from the start. Saw the trailer and UNDERWHELMED comes to my mind. What a poor poor decision (other than to get more money from die-hards) to release it to theatres. The more that comes out on SW the more I appreciate how awesome the first movie is(New Hope). I think it is the case of overkill with sub-par product. Really, how can any fan get excited over this dribble?
I only hope the live action series gets it all back on track but at this point will anyone care??
Gary

Zombie_61
08-19-2008, 07:11 PM
I saw it last Saturday. Not horrible, but not great either.

Definitely aimed at kids; "important" plot points are spelled out in the dialogue so little ones don't have to try to figure out what's going on. The battle scenes are a little long and tedious, like watching someone else play a video game. Younger children in the showing we attended (I'd guess eight years old and younger) were audibly bored after the first 15-20 minutes; after about an hour the two youngsters sitting in front of us were begging their father to leave.

For me, the character designs worked, and I found it interesting that you could see detailed textures at times on the Clonetroopers' armor and "brush strokes" in Count Dooku's beard (which may not be as apparent on "the small screen"), but various character's movements were a bit "herky jerky" at times--this definitely isn't Pixar quality. Vocally, Christopher Lee as Count Dooku and James Arnold Taylor as Obi-Wan Kenobi were particularly good, the rest of the voice talent was suitable except for Samuel L. Jackson as Mace Windu (don't blink or you'll miss him) who was rather unremarkable. John Williams' musical score was noticeably absent, though the score they chose worked well enough. There were other things I wasn't impressed with, but some might consider them spoilers, so I won't go into it.

Basic recommendations--if you're interested and you think you'll like it, you probably will. If you're not interested and/or don't think you'll like it, you probably won't.

John P
08-20-2008, 07:52 AM
I think Roger Ebert said something like, it's clearly a saturday morning cartoon that doesn't belong on a theater screen, and the characters are too scarey-looking for kids.

Carson Dyle
08-20-2008, 04:30 PM
Definitely aimed at kids

Yeah, my kids are the only excuse I have for going to see this. I can generally find something to like about any Star Wars movie, but this promises to give me a run for my money.

BrianM
08-24-2008, 01:21 PM
...I can't add much here, just echo previous comments. It's like watching a video game. The animation is good, parts of the film enjoyable. It's clearly aimed at kids , but a bit too long. I enjoyed it much more than Phantom Menace, and Return of the Muppets (...Jedi).

aurora fan
08-24-2008, 09:35 PM
I took my grandson, age 9, and he loved it. He couldn't sit still, he was so excited, and kept looking up at me with enthusiasm. THAT WAS COOL GRANPA! Afterwards we went to Wallmart and bought the latest 45 dollar lego system.

The movie was okay. I remember being thrilled with the original when I was 17. I guess its the same thing. I didn't have legos to run out and buy back then but in the mid 80s my son owned all the little action figures.

Father, son, and grandson. All affected in a positive way by Star Wars. We all build models or enjoy collecting in some way. I think its a good thing.

Mobius1
08-25-2008, 02:00 PM
based on what ive read on wikipedia, it sounds pretty lame. it doesnt cover anything important in the Star Wars universe, just a random point in a period that has already been covered. And most of the cast from the movies do not do the voice over for their characters.

sounds pretty cheesy to me.

hal9001
08-26-2008, 01:14 AM
I couldn't help but notice that no one as of yet has made any mention of the animated film 'Star Wars: The Clone Wars' and was curious as to whether or not any of you guys have seen it. I've read some pretty disturbing reviews about it which lead me to believe that Mr. Lucas has learned absolutely nothing about what goes into a good story.

After redeeming himself somewhat from episode 1 to a noticeable improvement in episode 3, it seems he's hell bent on destroying his series again with lame jokes, annoying characters and bad dialog-or so I've heard. I'm usually pretty open to new films and new ideas within established series' but I have no desire to see him ruin the saga any further.



I'm too old to watch cartoons.:freak:

"Let's be bad guys" - Jayne Cobb

BluntFronts
08-26-2008, 03:16 PM
When I saw the first preview at the theater, I really and truly thought it was an ad for a video game. I was surprised that something so primitive-looking was being released as a main feature.

So it's just a possible future rental for me - maybe it will look better on the small screen!

Dave Hussey
08-28-2008, 01:42 PM
Ebert is inconsistent in his movie reviews. For example, he said this about this summer's Mummy movie:

"There is hardly a thing I can say in its favor, except that I was cheered by nearly every minute of it. I cannot argue for the script, the direction, the acting or even the mummy, but I can say that I was not bored and sometimes I was unreasonably pleased. There is a little immaturity stuck away in the crannies of even the most judicious of us, and we should treasure it."

Yet the same Ebert guy dissed Clone Wars?

Much of the above quote could be applied to The Clone Wars. Yes its squarely aimed at kids to promote the upcoming TV series. In that regard, I judge its success by the fact that my six year old declared it to be awesome and the theatre full of kids applauded at the end of the movie. And as a guy who never really grew up, I sat back, munched on some popcorn, and thoroughly enjoyed the show.

And for those who say the Original Trilogy movies did not pander to kids, i say only this:

Ewok.

I rest my case.

Huzz

Zorro
08-28-2008, 03:32 PM
And for those who say the Original Trilogy movies did not pander to kids, i say only this:

Ewok.

I rest my case.

Huzz

Yes. And we all know how much everyone loves the Ewoks.

Mitchellmania
08-29-2008, 04:02 PM
I watched it with my son, and I liked it.

Styrofoam_Guy
08-29-2008, 04:54 PM
i was underwhelmed. I didn't like the cartoon style or much of the story. I am sure it is aimed for kids

bigjimslade
08-31-2008, 02:25 PM
After redeeming himself somewhat from episode 1 to a noticeable improvement in episode 3, it seems he's hell bent on destroying his series again with lame jokes, annoying characters and bad dialog-or so I've heard. I'm usually pretty open to new films and new ideas within established series' but I have no desire to see him ruin the saga any further.

Lucas has pretty much destroyed Star Wars as means for films. I did not see any improvement in 1 to 3 other than less of Jar-Jar.

#4 Was a great movie.
#5 Was an improvement on the first's flaws.
#6 Was where they ran out of ideas and switched to toy marketing (another Death Star -- after the first one blew up--you'd think the Empire would come up with something else -- and Ewoks -- we can sell furry toys)

#1-3 Were simply dreadful films in all respects other than music. Even the special effects were not standouts. I have been watching them on spike and they only look worse over time. Hayden Christianson makes Mark Hamel look like Olivier. I could go on...but won't.

That said, for the new movies, the animation looked like low grade stuff on Saturday morning cartoons these days. None of the original cast did voices. In short, this looked like a low budget attempt to sucker us from our money. I fell for it with #1-3 but won't for this schlock.

Zorro
08-31-2008, 08:52 PM
Hayden Christianson makes Mark Hamel look like Olivier.

This is so true.

JohnGuard
08-31-2008, 10:18 PM
how can you guys hate the same guy who made you love Star Wars?

terryr
09-01-2008, 01:21 AM
We've been deceived! He's not a god, but only a man! KILL HIM!!!

John P
09-01-2008, 09:10 AM
Ebert is inconsistent in his movie reviews. For example, he said this about this summer's Mummy movie:

"There is hardly a thing I can say in its favor, except that I was cheered by nearly every minute of it. I cannot argue for the script, the direction, the acting or even the mummy, but I can say that I was not bored and sometimes I was unreasonably pleased. There is a little immaturity stuck away in the crannies of even the most judicious of us, and we should treasure it."

Yet the same Ebert guy dissed Clone Wars?

Much of the above quote could be applied to The Clone Wars. Yes its squarely aimed at kids to promote the upcoming TV series. In that regard, I judge its success by the fact that my six year old declared it to be awesome and the theatre full of kids applauded at the end of the movie. And as a guy who never really grew up, I sat back, munched on some popcorn, and thoroughly enjoyed the show.

And for those who say the Original Trilogy movies did not pander to kids, i say only this:

Ewok.

I rest my case.

Huzz

You mean he gave two different reviews to two completely different movies? How DARE he!?

;)

bigjimslade
09-01-2008, 10:20 AM
how can you guys hate the same guy who made you love Star Wars?

He was seduced by the Dark Side.

Dave Hussey
09-03-2008, 09:48 AM
You mean he gave two different reviews to two completely different movies? How DARE he!?

;)

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Careful! I'll throw a dirty sock at ya!:lol:

Huzz

Dave Hussey
09-03-2008, 09:59 AM
[quote=bigjimslade;2498362]

#1-3 Were simply dreadful films in all respects other than music. Even the special effects were not standouts. I have been watching them on spike and they only look worse over time. Hayden Christianson makes Mark Hamel look like Olivier. I could go on...but won't.
quote]

I did not find them dreadful. In fact, I quite liked Episode II and III, despite Hayden Christensen.

However, if I had to do those movies, Episode I would be dropped altogether and the series would begin at Episode II with a series of brief flashbacks as seen from the eyes of an adult Anakin. And I would have cast someone like Clive Owen or Colin Farrell as the adult Anakin. Someone much more believable as a skilled SOB warrior who fell to the dark side.

Huzz

bigjimslade
09-04-2008, 10:30 AM
[quote=bigjimslade;2498362]
And I would have cast someone like Clive Owen or Colin Farrell as the adult Anakin. Someone much more believable as a skilled SOB warrior who fell to the dark side.


Makes me think that Will Farrell would have made a better Anakin.

Dave Hussey
09-04-2008, 10:33 AM
Don't ya just love the positive attitude on this board?

Huzz

PhilipMarlowe
09-04-2008, 10:41 AM
Don't ya just love the positive attitude on this board?

Huzz

I'm positive Hayden Christianson is gonna suck baaaad as Case in the movie adaption of William Gibson's classic Neuromancer.

Actually,either Clive Owen or Colin Farrell would have made a decent Case.