Frank-

Were you guys looking down the road at producing a larger-scale flying sub? I thought I remember reading some time ago that it was a possibility. Just curious.

Saturn Ltd

yes.a

Yes we have a 1/32 scale Flying Sub planned for a first half 2009 release.
Dave

Dave and Frank, you're spoiling these guys!!:p

Chris.:)

That will be another "must have" for me. Chris, we is spoiled rotten, rotten I tells ya..

"It's not rotten, it's a GOOD brain!" - Frau Blucher

That will be another "must have" for me. Chris, we is spoiled rotten, rotten I tells ya..

Let's face it, we deserve to be!!:p

Chris.:)

"It's not rotten, it's a GOOD brain!" - Frau Blucher

Something's spooked the horses!!

Chris.:)

Hi Dave,

At 1/32, how big across (wide) wil the FS-1 be? I'm guessing about twice the width of the Aurora model, which i think was a 1/60 scale kit.

Thanks,
Huzz

Dave I know nuttin, but your calulations sound about right to me. This will be a great kit for "super' detailing.

You know this will probably have an effect on the prices of the Aurora version and the monogram repops. I know the old kits will still have the nostalga factor. But I bet this new one will be so much better than the old it will blow it away.. I wonder if the PL and Aurora Seaview lost some popularity now that Moebius came out with a bigger much better version....hmm. food for thought..

I think I can safely say the Moebius FS will blow away every previous iteration of this craft, licensed or unlicensed...

I tend to doubt that the old Aurora/PL Voyage kits are any the less popular, considering their nostalgic value and convenient built-up shelf sizes. :thumbsup:
Face it, these are GREAT days to be a modeller! Thanks again, Frank! :woohoo:

I'm running out of room for the big kits. I have 2 large WWII subs I can't fit anywhere now.

That's why god made closets... and bigger houses! LOL!

I'll be hanging the Moebius flying sub from the ceiling anyway.

I'm running out of room for the big kits. I have 2 large WWII subs I can't fit anywhere now.

Let me guess, 1:72 Gato and U Boat? I have them and have no idea where to put them.

I think I can safely say the Moebius FS will blow away every previous iteration of this craft, licensed or unlicensed...

Me thinks you might have a hand in this!alexander

Well from me... I CAN'T WAIT...!!! :woohoo:

First the Seaview, then the Pod, then the Chariot and now a really good.. top notch... you beaut... little ripper FS1. :thumbsup: I can hear the grown from me wife now "and where is that one going to fit..." :p Don't know and I don't care :rolleyes:

Ok enough babble.

Thanks again Moebius :wave:

I hear (not definite info) that Moebius might be thinking of a lighting package for the FS.

Let me guess, 1:72 Gato and U Boat? I have them and have no idea where to put them.

Correct. Too big.

The only thing that's killing me with all the Irwin Allen stuff is that, as a WWII aircraft modeler, I'm terrible at getting clean, smooth, unweathered painted surfaces. Weathering and camo was always a helpful way for me to hide it. No chance of that with the FS! :lol:

The only thing that's killing me with all the Irwin Allen stuff is that, as a WWII aircraft modeler, I'm terrible at getting clean, smooth, unweathered painted surfaces. Weathering and camo was always a helpful way for me to hide it. No chance of that with the FS! :lol:

Well, maybe the FS-1 kit will be just TOO big to fit on that shelf of yours, and if that's the case, it won't really be an issue, will it?

Should fit. :) The shelves are 12" deep, which means they can handle something slightly wider, maybe 16 or 18 inches, if I place the stand toward the edge.

The only thing that's killing me with all the Irwin Allen stuff is that, as a WWII aircraft modeler, I'm terrible at getting clean, smooth, unweathered painted surfaces. Weathering and camo was always a helpful way for me to hide it. No chance of that with the FS! :lol:You could always do the Flying Sub as an experimental WWII German aircraft. They had a lot of weird ones, you know!

Should fit. :) The shelves are 12" deep, which means they can handle something slightly wider, maybe 16 or 18 inches, if I place the stand toward the edge.


Either go buy bigger shelves or don't buy the Model.:freak:

Or possibly cut the model in half to fit your shelves:thumbsup:

You know this will probably have an effect on the prices of the Aurora version and the monogram repops. I know the old kits will still have the nostalga factor. But I bet this new one will be so much better than the old it will blow it away.. I wonder if the PL and Aurora Seaview lost some popularity now that Moebius came out with a bigger much better version....hmm. food for thought..


i love it when those asking way over inflated priced items on Evil bay get stuck with there stuff, can you say Smoothie?

John,Spray cans are the way to go for this.Boil water in a pot larger tha a can of Testors Chrome Yellow.Turn the flame off and place the can in the water,about three quarters submerged.It take just a minute or two to bring up the pressure in the can.Remove the can with tongs or other devise,wrap a towel or use heavy gloves to handle the hot can.Spray a LIGHT coat of paint over the model,about 12-15 inches away,wait about 5 min.This coat "bites" the plastic.Next coat is a little closer.The third coat should be a fast wet coat.Let dry in a cool dark place,I usually hang my models in a closet.Leave it for a week,to degass and harden.Work on the rest of the model.Try it.alexander

The new Flying sub is between 13 and 14 inch wing span (I'm too lazy to go dig up the exact dimension right now) _ Not too big.....but big enough to include some nice details.

Dave

How do you mitigate the 33 billion specks of dust that has accumulated on our nice, new finish? Seriously, I have issues with "clean" finishes also.


John,Spray cans are the way to go for this.Boil water in a pot larger tha a can of Testors Chrome Yellow.Turn the flame off and place the can in the water,about three quarters submerged.It take just a minute or two to bring up the pressure in the can.Remove the can with tongs or other devise,wrap a towel or use heavy gloves to handle the hot can.Spray a LIGHT coat of paint over the model,about 12-15 inches away,wait about 5 min.This coat "bites" the plastic.Next coat is a little closer.The third coat should be a fast wet coat.Let dry in a cool dark place,I usually hang my models in a closet.Leave it for a week,to degass and harden.Work on the rest of the model.Try it.alexander

After spraying hang it in the closet where there is no moving air with dust to get on your painted surface.If by chance there are some dust or specks,let the paint dry,as I said about a week,then sand the spot with very fine sandpaper,I use 12000,and spray a clear gloss to even things out.alexander

The new Flying sub is between 13 and 14 inch wing span (I'm too lazy to go dig up the exact dimension right now) _ Not too big.....but big enough to include some nice details.

Dave

Wow at 13 to 14 inch this kit will rock, and the detail will be incredible, I hope landing gear will be included too!

I just scanned in my Flying Sub blueprints in and printed it out at in scale and this is an incredible size and yes it will fit on a book shelf. I cant wait for this kit.

Thanks Moebius for bringing our dreams alive!

Great..... I can now sale that lame FS and interior kit from Lunar, that I never built.....

The new Flying sub is between 13 and 14 inch wing span (I'm too lazy to go dig up the exact dimension right now) _ Not too big.....but big enough to include some nice details.

Dave

YES!! VIVA MOEBIUS!!!!! Don't forget the (optional) landing gear
so I can buy two!!!!:woohoo:

I am interested in one. I always liked the FS.

Complete my life with the Jupiter 2 first Moebius !

Somehow, I get the feeling that the ultimate Jupiter 2 will be the finale'/Pièce de résistance of the "Moebius Irwin Allen line", so be patient a couple of years, wait and see (I say with fingers firmly crossed).

I would take one of each, the FS, and the J2!! (as long as the price isn't too crazy!):thumbsup:
:woohoo:
Ron:devil:

Either go buy bigger shelves or don't buy the Model.:freak:

Or possibly cut the model in half to fit your shelves:thumbsup:


Annnd I'm under attack here why?

You're too shelvish?

Cheers mobeius! A new bigger flying sub kit is awsome news:thumbsup:Thanks again guys!!!

This FS would be perfect for RC. I'll bet Meriman is already at work on the guts.

You're too shelvish?

I'm a lobster?

This FS would be perfect for RC. I'll bet Meriman is already at work on the guts.I assume you mean as an RC submarine. The only way that thing's ever going to fly is on a Lydecker rig!

I don't know ... I've heard of (and seen photos of) flying RC lawn mowers.

You could always do the Flying Sub as an experimental WWII German aircraft. They had a lot of weird ones, you know!

I bet John will make a Federation shuttle out of it!

PS - John P - not an attack - just me being silly again! :thumbsup::):wave:)

Huzz

I assume you mean as an RC submarine. The only way that thing's ever going to fly is on a Lydecker rig!

Right. As obsessively "authentic" as some of you dudes are, how else would you replicate that pronounced "wobble" as the FS exits the water?:p

If you liked the Seaview model, the Flying Sub kit will blow your socks off! I've seen the FS-1 prototype from China, and I've got to say, this kit will be amazing. With a wingspan of 13.5", the Moebius model will dwarf the old Aurora kit. The shape of the hull is dead-on, since it was CNC'ed from a 3D laser scan of an 18" studio model's hull. The interior is as accurate as possible, with clear floor panels and reactor panel. The interior is also remarkably detailed. For example, each seat has - I forget how many parts. Dave, can you help me out here?

Just wait - 2009 is going to be a very, very good year for 'Voyage' fans.

but well it have wheels?

but well it have wheels?

Not initially, but perhaps as part of a deluxe kit later. The landing gear & manipulator claws have already been designed, so if people really want the wheels & claws, they should let Moebius know.

Another tidbit: the Moebius kit will differ from the Aurora kit by not having an engine room. There are technical reasons why an engine room would not be practical, but the main reason is a lack of space. The headroom in the area aft of the crew compartment quickly diminishes to less than 5 feet toward the rear bulkhead, and the width is equally restrictive.

Instead of an engine room, I've designed a watertight tunnel that connects the doors leading from the crew compartment to the rear bulkhead. BTW, the tunnel has been given the official David Merriman Seal of Approval.

"The landing gear & manipulator claws have already been designed, so if people really want the wheels & claws, they should let Moebius know."

I want a deluxe kit, and I'd like it released at the same time as the standard kit, so I can just buy the deluxe one, not buy the standard kit, and then feel ripped off 6 months later when a deluxe kit surfaces.

Also any panels that could be lit I'd like to see cast in clear, unlike the seaview, chariot and space pod releases.

I'd also like to see you guys do the instruction manual as a pdf file (which can then be printed), also you could post if before printing for feedback as to it it appears clear enough, or if more detailed illustrations or text needs to be added.

Why not take advantage of the wealth of information here, free for the taking?

And.. um... I want a fancy jacket patch included with the kit..... hmmm... maybe two.. one for each shoulder! ;)