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agholub
08-10-2008, 10:06 PM
There has been tons of talk about on road carpet racing starting up lately.
Vintage Trans Am racing is on the tip of everyone’s tongues. What is the Vintage Trans Am class? Any 1/10th electric 4wd touring car (new or old… matters not), with a vintage body (used in the real trans am racing series in the late 60s’), and rubber tires. Only one brand tire is legal – the HPI Vintage Tires with tread. Tires must be mounted on HPI Vintage rims. These tires are a great equalizing force for competition and have great durability. Take your time and glue them up nice… they will be around for a while. The car can be powered by either a 2S lipo/21.5 Brushless or 4 cell nihm/17.5 brushless (or 27turn brushed) motor. The intent is to keep speeds and costs down and racing very competitive. In a way, I think this class is the closest thing to Slash Offroad racing you are going to find in OnRoad Racing. This format of racing will also be running at many of the other area tracks and the format is universal.

Here is a link to the official Vintage TA website where you can see pics and see all the official rules: http://www.apexspeed.com/usvintagetransam/gallery/index.html

The vintage trans am class will start at Classic Hobbies in September. More details will be posted soon.

Best Regards,

Andy

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1994 E Waterloo RD.
Akron, Ohio 44312
330-733-6400
Fax: 330-733-6400
mstrbrickstr@sbcglobal.net
Contact: Steve Smith

Hangtime
08-11-2008, 08:36 AM
Thats pretty cool, but 4wd??? I don't remember any of those cars being 4wd.

DAVON
08-11-2008, 12:27 PM
Thats pretty cool, but 4wd??? I don't remember any of those cars being 4wd.
THEY WEREN'T ELECTRIC POWERED EITHER...:freak:
OH AND I THINK THEY WERE BIGGER TOO...:confused:
AND THEY DIDN'T RUN INDOORS ON CARPET...:drunk:
OK THAT SETTLES IT....I'M NOT GOING TO RUN THAT CLASS....YEAH RIGHT.
TRAN-AM RACING BABY...CAN'T WAIT.:thumbsup::woohoo::thumbsup:

Lohrr1
08-11-2008, 04:12 PM
THEY WEREN'T ELECTRIC POWERED EITHER...:freak:
OH AND I THINK THEY WERE BIGGER TOO...:confused:
AND THEY DIDN'T RUN INDOORS ON CARPET...:drunk:
OK THAT SETTLES IT....I'M NOT GOING TO RUN THAT CLASS....YEAH RIGHT.
TRAN-AM RACING BABY...CAN'T WAIT.:thumbsup::woohoo::thumbsup:

We've been running this at Beaver PA, It's the most fun I've had in years. Looking forward to running it at Classic.
Rick

frank p.
08-11-2008, 07:34 PM
looking forward to getting a 1/10th pan car class 13.5 like there gonna run at the indoor champs

ICEMAN96
08-12-2008, 12:53 PM
There Will Also Be Other Classes Such As 18t,b,and R's.3 Make A Class It's Looking To Be A Fun Season

General
08-13-2008, 12:44 PM
There Will Also Be Other Classes Such As 18t,b,and R's.3 Make A Class It's Looking To Be A Fun Season

Me or Andy will post all the classes as soon as I get them all down on paper.

Steve:thumbsup:

agholub
08-14-2008, 12:34 AM
Here is the Classic Hobbies Indoor Onroad Carpet Schedule:

September 5 Friday OnRoad
September 12 Friday OnRoad
September 19 Friday OnRoad
September 26 Friday OnRoad
October 3 Friday OnRoad
October 10 Friday OnRoad
October 17 Friday OnRoad
October 24 Friday OnRoad
November 2 Sunday OnRoad
November 9 Sunday OnRoad
November 16 Sunday OnRoad - Classic Champs Warmup Race
November 19 Wednesday OnRoad Open Practrice
November 20 Thursday OnRoad Open Practrice
November 21 Friday OnRoad Open Practrice
November 22 Saturday OnRoad Open Practrice
November 23 Sunday OnRoad Open Practrice
November 24 Monday OnRoad Open Practrice
November 25 Tuesday OnRoad

We are anticipating a Vintage Trans Am Class, 1/10th pan class, 1/10 TC Class, 1/12 pan Class, and 1/18 pan class. Other car types are of course welcome. 3 of a kind make a class. Bring what you have and we will find a place for you regardless - everyone races. All cars must be electric, clean, and have carpet friendly tires (slicks, foams, or road tread). Wintogreen based traction compounds are not permitted. Classes will be based on current classes running @ the Beaver and the Gate. Lipos have grown tremendously in popularity and we are open to adjusting class requirements to accomodate friendly fun competition using these power sources. Please let Steve or I know if you have any thoughts, concerns, or questions.

CLASS SPECIFICATIONS

Stock 1/12

Motor + Battery: 17.5 Brushless + 4 Cell Nihm OR 2S Lipo 21.5
Tires: Foam
Minimum Ride Height: 3mm

1/10th TC Foam Sedan

Motor: 17.5 Brushless
Battery: 6-Cell NiMH/NiCd or 7.4V LiPo
Tires: Foam
Minimum Ride Height: 4mm

1/10 TC Sedan Rubber

Motor: 13.5 Brushless
Battery: 6-Cell NiMH/NiCd or 7.4V LiPo
Tires: Premounts Only. Jaco Green, Speedmind/Sorex 28R, or MuchMore Sweep 28
Body: Sedan
Minimum Weight: 1525 grams
Maximum Width: 190mm
Minimum Ride Height: 5mm

1/10 Pan GT

Motor + Battery: 13.5 Brushless + 4 Cell Nihm OR 17.5 Brushless + 2S Lipo
Tires: Foam
Body: 200mm 2-door Sports Car.
Maximum Width: 200mm
Minimum Ride Height: 4mm

Vintage Trans Am

Rules as posted on http://www.usvintagetransam.com


Best Regards,

Andy



1994 E Waterloo RD.
Akron, Ohio 44312
330-733-6400
Fax: 330-733-6400
mstrbrickstr@sbcglobal.net
Contact: Steve Smith

ML23
08-15-2008, 04:55 PM
i would think 17.5 or 13.5 would be better for foam tc because th17.5 is the stock equevalent and 13.5 is what a lot of people were using last year.
just a suggestion

agholub
08-15-2008, 07:25 PM
i would think 17.5 or 13.5 would be better for foam tc because th17.5 is the stock equevalent and 13.5 is what a lot of people were using last year.
just a suggestion

Hi Mike,

I just reposted the class rules from the gate to keep the playing field level. I am all for running 13.5's or 17.5's.

--Andy

ML23
08-15-2008, 07:27 PM
i think most will probably run some kind of stock motor. 17.5 or brushed if they can handle faster thats great but i would think you would wanna make it the same for every one.

agholub
08-15-2008, 07:34 PM
I think most TC at Classic that do not do Vintage Trans Am will do Rubber just from a cost savings standpoint rather than buying foam... but I do not know. Time will tell. I like them all!

agholub
08-18-2008, 04:29 PM
The OnRoad schedule has been updated. The first 4 races will be on Friday nights with racing starting at 7pm. After that we move to Sundays with racing starting at 2pm.

September 5 Friday OnRoad
September 12 Friday OnRoad
September 19 Friday OnRoad
September 26 Friday OnRoad
October 5 Sunday OnRoad
October 12 Sunday OnRoad
October 19 Sunday OnRoad
October 26 Sunday OnRoad
November 2 Sunday OnRoad
November 9 Sunday OnRoad
November 16 Sunday OnRoad Classic Champs Warmup Race
November 19 Wednesday OnRoad Open Practice
November 20 Thursday OnRoad Open Practice
November 21 Friday OnRoad Open Practice
November 22 Saturday OnRoad Open Practice
November 23 Sunday OnRoad Open Practice
November 24 Monday OnRoad Open Practice
November 25 Tuesday OnRoad Open Practice
November 25 Tuesday OnRoad Open Practice

Best Regards,

Andy

ICEMAN96
08-20-2008, 12:21 PM
Can't Wait To Get Back On The Carpet

ICEMAN96
08-25-2008, 01:20 PM
Who's running 18t,b,and r

agholub
08-25-2008, 02:58 PM
My Vintage Trans Am car is ready for some action. How is everyone elses car coming? I'll have my tweak board and setup station (sets caster, camber, and toe) at the race to help get you setup if you want. Finally... racing without need for an EZUp.

agholub
08-25-2008, 03:25 PM
Idea for first track.

agholub
08-25-2008, 03:49 PM
Classic Hobbies will be hosting a Warmup for the US Indoor Champs on Sunday, November 16. Doors open @ 8am. Drivers Meeting 12pm. Racing starts at 1pm.

We will be running all the classes using all the rules at this years US Indoor Champs. Mr. Bill will be onhand to keep the party going.

PRO 10 GT(13.5)
1/12 Masters(17.5)
1/12 Stock(17.5)
1/12 Super Stock(13.5)
1/12 Mod TC Mod

TC Rubber(13.5)
TC Stock(17.5)
TC Super Stock(13.5)
TC Mod

First Class $30. Each additional Class $20.

1994 E Waterloo RD.
Akron, Ohio 44312
330-733-6400
Fax: 330-733-6400
mstrbrickstr@sbcglobal.net
Contact: Steve Smith

ML23
08-25-2008, 08:09 PM
My Vintage Trans Am car is ready for some action. How is everyone elses car coming? I'll have my tweak board and setup station (sets caster, camber, and toe) at the race to help get you setup if you want. Finally... racing without need for an EZUp.

Ran tc and 1/12 at beaver yesterday had a great time, cant wait to start at classic.

sg1
08-26-2008, 07:12 AM
Idea for first track.

Hey Andy,
I think we ran that track... The BRP guys came out and it was set up like that. That doesn't mean not do it, just means I know how to drive it :)
-Wayne

PS Drunk mike knows the track well also!!

NatalieMorgan
08-27-2008, 08:18 PM
Trans Am is just about done, 17.5 brushless for me! just need to get my batteries in order!

agholub
08-27-2008, 08:20 PM
From the offroad forum:

Originally Posted by DAVON
FOR HELP WITH GEARING GO HERE...
http://www.gearchart.com/index.cfm?f...n=home.default
JUST PUT IN THE INFORMATION AND IT DOES THE WORK.

Awesome!

For the purpose of calculating TransAm FDRs, the tire diameter is 64mm for the TransAm tires. The final FDR must be no less than 4.2 if running a 21.5 motor + Lipo.

Lohrr1
08-27-2008, 09:12 PM
From the offroad forum:

Originally Posted by DAVON
FOR HELP WITH GEARING GO HERE...
http://www.gearchart.com/index.cfm?f...n=home.default
JUST PUT IN THE INFORMATION AND IT DOES THE WORK.

Awesome!

For the purpose of calculating TransAm FDRs, the tire diameter is 64mm for the TransAm tires. The final rollout must be no greater than 4.2 if running a 21.5 motor + Lipo.

FDR is final drive ratio, not rollout and can't be "less than 4.2" meaning it can't be 3.5 or 4.0. Since all of the tire diam is the same, their web site uses final drive ratio.
Rick

Lohrr1
08-27-2008, 09:16 PM
Looking forward to running Trans Am on the 5th! Who else is running?
Rick

agholub
08-27-2008, 09:25 PM
Looking forward to running Trans Am on the 5th! Who else is running?
Rick

I'll be there with mine to test the barrier stength!

--Andy

lawnguy
08-27-2008, 09:31 PM
is the run out the same for stock, 17.5 or are the all different, if different what will they be approx. thanks

NatalieMorgan
08-27-2008, 10:05 PM
Looking forward to running Trans Am on the 5th! Who else is running?
Rick

If I can get ahold of a few decent 4 cell packs count me in!!!

Lohrr1
08-27-2008, 10:13 PM
is the run out the same for stock, 17.5 or are the all different, if different what will they be approx. thanks

The FDR will be different for each motor/battery combo, the 17.5/4 cell will have the largest pinion/smallest spur(lower number on the FDR)
Rick

mhimes
08-28-2008, 08:20 AM
Hey Nat/Jeff/Andy, mark weenie here...........im almost sold on trans am, Im thinking 17.5 brushless too, what motor/esc/batt combo? Novak 17.5ss looks nice,

I have no idea what charger/batts to use...

help me out and ill make it up to you.......If you ever need a 8oo horsepower motor for your real camaro we'll call it even!

mhimes
08-28-2008, 08:25 AM
Nat/Jeff/Andy..........would this setup be ok?? (see pic attached)

lawnguy
08-28-2008, 08:49 AM
Dan an I are also running Trans Am Daniel is running a cuda me a camaro highly reinforced for on track action lol. This class should be a lot of fun just watch Nat she dosen't drive that well lol. see all of you in a few weeks Ron an Daniel

agholub
08-28-2008, 01:11 PM
Nat/Jeff/Andy..........would this setup be ok?? (see pic attached)

That setup would be fine. For TransAm racing you would use 4 cell NIHM packs with the 17.5 motor.

I also use the Novak GTB speed control - it works great. I am using a lipo with 21.5 motor.

--Andy

mhimes
08-28-2008, 03:30 PM
THANX Andy........ In the future would I be able to run a LIPO with this setup
just foolin around at home (it should be crazy fast) with just a battery change?

agholub
08-28-2008, 03:44 PM
THANX Andy........ In the future would I be able to run a LIPO with this setup
just foolin around at home (it should be crazy fast) with just a battery change?

Yes. In the future you can run a Lipo with that setup. You would of course need the 21.5 motor to be legal in VTA when running the Lipo.

On a side note, you can run a Lipo + 17.5 for the Stock Foam Touring Car class which you could run with the same car instead of VTA if you wanted. Use the same chassis with Foam Touring Car wheels and a Protoform R9-F body (arguably best available). This is a very popular class at the Gate. I know at least a few people have talked about running at Classic.

--Andy :)

agholub
08-28-2008, 05:19 PM
Track Update: Steve has taken up the carpet and is sanding the floor seeking a smooth surface. The carpet will be put down and stretched likely tomorrow.Thanks for the hard work Steve!

Grease
08-28-2008, 08:27 PM
This sounds great. I can't wait:)

NatalieMorgan
08-28-2008, 10:18 PM
Most of us are using a Duratrax ICE, it will charge lipo and nimh. Its a great charger for the money! Easy to set up too.

Nat

lawnguy
08-29-2008, 07:33 AM
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXRST8&P=7

Andy, would this be legal for the trans am series?

DAVON
08-29-2008, 08:12 AM
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXRST8&P=7

Andy, would this be legal for the trans am series?

NO ONLY MOTORS ARE...27T BRUSHED...17.5/21.5 BRUSHLESS

Crptracer
08-29-2008, 08:52 AM
Do you guys have a website? or pics of the track?

K.J.Price
08-29-2008, 01:09 PM
Do you guys have a website? or pics of the track?

Hey go to page 3 of this OnRoad thing about 3/4 of the way down on the page you will see new onRoad track at classic hobbies on there,Theres some pics of the track bein built its not done yet in the pics though.

Keith

agholub
08-29-2008, 01:35 PM
Schedule Update: The first 8 (instead of 4) races will be on Friday nights to allow the offroad season to continue racing on Sundays another month. After that, all onroad races will be on Sundays.

Best Regards,

Andy

agholub
08-29-2008, 04:05 PM
Effective Sept 1, the normal race entry fee for the first class will go up $3 to $18. Additional classes are still $10 each. There is a $3 senior discount and a $3 family plan discount ($3 off each additional family member's first class). Currently Classic Hobbies is generating the majority of its revenue from the tracks and things are tight. To help keep prices down and Classic Hobbies around, you can help by making some of your purchases through the Hobby Shop. Steve can get just about anything you want in less than a week and is willing to match most online store prices. Give him a call or send him an email with your part numbers and it'll be there waiting for you at the track.

Best Regards,

Andy

Grease
08-29-2008, 06:36 PM
Can he get Schumacher parts?

agholub
08-30-2008, 08:17 PM
Can he get Schumacher parts?

Steve thinks he can, but will not know for sure until Tuesday.

Robertw321
08-30-2008, 10:29 PM
Effective Sept 1, the normal race entry fee for the first class will go up $3 to $18. Additional classes are still $10 each. There is a $3 senior discount and a $3 family plan discount ($3 off each additional family member's first class).

Clarification to the above price change. The senior discount is for age 55 and above. The family discount is for minors with the paid race fee of a related adult.

DAVON
08-31-2008, 10:07 PM
Who'll Be There This Friday???

Kyosho Racer
08-31-2008, 11:01 PM
Who'll Be There This Friday???

You, Me, Drunk Mike, Andy, Announcer Mike, and I think the 3 Collier's.
Jeff

Announcer Mike
08-31-2008, 11:03 PM
It's true - I WILL be there with my Trans Am car!!!!

Announcer Mike
08-31-2008, 11:36 PM
Clarification to the above price change. The senior discount is for age 55 and above. The family discount is for minors with the paid race fee of a related adult.


Gee, Bob - I think you are the ONLY one who will get that Senior discount. :jest::jest: