View Full Version : My Chariot...In Progress
beatlepaul 08-09-2008, 03:28 PM Hi Guys.
Just wanted to show you the current state of my Moebius Chariot.
First let me say, Moebius did it again!:thumbsup::thumbsup:This kit is a beaut!!
Again my model is not complete yet, just wanted to share these pics.
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3142/chariot0001ee6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/8901/chariot0002qk3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5666/chariot0003pi6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
More to come.........
BP
Paulbo 08-09-2008, 03:38 PM That looks great BP!
I love that table - it looks like the chariot's floating across the water in the pilot. Oops, I already made that sort of comment for your photos of the Seaview ;-)
falcon49xxxx 08-09-2008, 04:08 PM Uh,what color orange did u use? I cant seem to find that color where I live.LOL.Great Job!!Hey were'nt those movies I sent you great!alexander
gareee 08-09-2008, 05:12 PM Dumb question.. is there luggage included for the top luggage rack? I recall seeing some in an episode...
The Chariot does look very empty without some crew in it...
Yes, there is luggage. Looks good BP, did you use Bare Metal foil?
beatlepaul 08-09-2008, 05:24 PM Yes, there is luggage. Looks good BP, did you use Bare Metal foil?
Thank you gentlemen..
Yes there is Luggage included with the kit, However I may come up with my own, Just personal..
Yes indded I did use Bare Metal Foil. In my opinion, The BEST way of trimming The Chariot correctly. I also painted the inside Beams Orange..
BP
AJ-1701 08-11-2008, 09:40 AM Nice job so far :thumbsup:
How did you do the foil thing? Cause it looks great. It's the only thing I'm dreading when mine turns up as to how I'll be doing all the canopy work...:freak:
PM Moderator 08-11-2008, 09:55 AM BMF is not too difficult to use...Just use a Very SHARP knife (either a fresh #11 blade or fresh scalpel blade) and cut narrow strips of foil (at least 3 times the width of the raised detail you're covering. Carefully peel the strips from the backer - apply to the model with excess material on both sides of the raised ribs and rub the foil down to the surface of the model - I use a Q-tip, a piece of Balsa wood and toothpicks to get it rubbed down tight.
Once you've burnished the foil over the raised detail use your SHARP knife to trim the excess foil off both sides of the raised detail.
It's a tedious process on something like Chariot but it looks great when you're done.
Dave
beatlepaul 08-11-2008, 10:28 AM Yes Gentlemen, the Bare Metal Foill Method IS THE WAY TO GO on the Trim of the Chariot.
Like Dave said, the key is to take your time, Have a brand new X-Acto Blade and start. I cut the strips slightly larger (both width and height wise) than the actual trim. Then carefully Cut it in with my Blade.
It may seem like it takes forever, but before you know it, it's done and looks great:thumbsup:.
I used the Ultra Bright Chrome on mine.
BP
Admiral Nelson 08-11-2008, 10:31 AM You talking about regular hosehold foil?
PM Moderator 08-11-2008, 11:26 AM Not household aluminum foil SEE : Bare Metal Foil - at - http://www.bare-metal.com
Dave
j2man 08-11-2008, 12:06 PM Very nice detail indeed. I hope looks a fraction as good as yours. So are you going to add a motor and remote control? Is it even possible.?
beatlepaul 08-11-2008, 12:27 PM Very nice detail indeed. I hope looks a fraction as good as yours. So are you going to add a motor and remote control? Is it even possible.?
SURE it's Possible!!!!!!!!
However Not at this time. What's cool is the tred section unscrews so, I can Access it any time:thumbsup:
....More Pics to come
beatlepaul 08-11-2008, 01:39 PM OK ..
Here you go Gentlemen.
My "still in progress" Moebius Chariot.
Enjoy......
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/1104/chariot20001xh9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1211/chariot20002vf1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6403/chariot20003cm3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Admiral Nelson 08-11-2008, 01:48 PM Not household aluminum foil SEE : Bare Metal Foil - at - http://www.bare-metal.com
Dave
Thanks. I've never heard of it before.
Admiral Nelson 08-11-2008, 01:53 PM Very nice detail indeed. I hope looks a fraction as good as yours. So are you going to add a motor and remote control? Is it even possible.?
http://www.lostintoys.com/museum/scrchar.html
j2man 08-11-2008, 02:54 PM I have that Kyosho Blizzard DX. I don't think that this chariot will be in the right scale for that. It's pretty good size. I may get ideas on how to scale it down though.
AJ-1701 08-11-2008, 11:13 PM Not household aluminum foil SEE : Bare Metal Foil - at - http://www.bare-metal.com
Dave
I just googled it and it's even available here in Australia too... :thumbsup:
thanks for the heads up on it.
Tim Nolan 08-11-2008, 11:17 PM Man you did a great job on this thing! I wish mine would show up soon from TVCultman! I wonder what's takin' so long?!!!!
Opus Penguin 08-12-2008, 10:24 AM Waiting for mine from TVCultman as well. However, his web site states the Chariot finally arrived and he will be shipping this week.
AJ-1701 08-12-2008, 10:31 AM Waiting for mine from TVCultman as well. However, his web site states the Chariot finally arrived and he will be shipping this week.
And I must be patient for atleast 3 more weeks :drunk:before mine arrives... Then...:hat:
John P 08-12-2008, 12:40 PM Thanks. I've never heard of it before.
Just an example or two of what you can do with BMF:
http://www.inpayne.com/models/icky1.html
http://www.inpayne.com/models/squaw1.html
http://www.inpayne.com/models/f104333.html
Those are my first, and so far only, attempts with it.
Opus Penguin 08-12-2008, 01:57 PM Seems like a nightmare to use, but I would guess on the Chariot it wouldn't be too difficult.
beatlepaul 08-12-2008, 02:28 PM Seems like a nightmare to use, but I would guess on the Chariot it wouldn't be too difficult.
Patience.....Just a little Patience(and possibly a shot of Scotch:drunk:)
beatlepaul 08-13-2008, 05:31 PM More Progress Shots.........
I have Scratch -Built Luggage For the Top Rack. Also the Silver Strapes to secure them.
I like the Kit provided Part, But wanted to make it look more like the Real Chariot/Miniature.....Again this Kit is still in Progress,as I need to clean up some things here and there...
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/3600/chariot30001gy5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/2124/chariot30002mj5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/9715/chariot30003dn2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
...Up Next..
Working Bubble Roof Hatch
Lights!!!
Admiral Nelson 08-13-2008, 05:53 PM Just an example or two of what you can do with BMF:
http://www.inpayne.com/models/icky1.html
http://www.inpayne.com/models/squaw1.html
http://www.inpayne.com/models/f104333.html
Those are my first, and so far only, attempts with it.
Impressive. You have any real space models? Does that stuff come in gold?
PM Moderator 08-13-2008, 08:35 PM Bare Metal coomes in
Bright Chrome
Brushed aluminum
Copper
Gold
and black
Lou Dalmaso 08-13-2008, 09:17 PM BP,
Superior work on the luggage! If I could cast anything new for this kit (after a crew) it would be just the type of luggage you made there.
I think the next area to work on would be replacement curtains. Something in foil (like your chrome /mylar blanket) that isn't nearly as "thick" as the stock parts
Excellent work, I can't wait to see what you do next!
Thor1956 08-13-2008, 09:32 PM SURE it's Possible!!!!!!!!
However Not at this time. What's cool is the tred section unscrews so, I can Access it any time:thumbsup:
....More Pics to come
BP,
Just out of curiosity, any idea where to get the gear-train, motors, etc. for motorizing the Chariot.
I was thinking of using a 1/24 tank setup, but I don't think there's enough room in the lower hull. I've been looking for a smaller gear-train, but haven't found one yet.
djnick66 08-13-2008, 09:52 PM There really isnt much/any room for gears, etc. I have a 1/24 Panther and the axle is about 6 inches wide and the gear box about 4" x 4" x 2" high
The chariot has no empty room like the hollow hull of a tank. The main hull part is one piece... the bottom is the bottom of the chariot and the flip side (mold pin marks and all) is the interior. The box where the axles fit on the bottom is about 1" x 1" x 5" Thats it...
I have some gear boxes from cheap Zhengdefu and Mini Hobby 1/48 scale tanks, and they are still much larger or wider than the area in the chariot.
djnick66 08-13-2008, 09:55 PM Bare Metal coomes in
Bright Chrome
Brushed aluminum
Copper
Gold
and black
I have used the Aluminum and Chrome. The Chrome is really nice stuff... the Aluminum is quite different in texture and finish. I don't care for the Aluminum too much. I would prefer to paint the Chrome sheet.
BMF is great behind clear lights to represent the reflector behind a bulb or lens.
Thor1956 08-13-2008, 10:31 PM There really isnt much/any room for gears, etc. I have a 1/24 Panther and the axle is about 6 inches wide and the gear box about 4" x 4" x 2" high
Well ... fiddle-crud ...
I wonder if a 1/48 Tamiya or Hasagawa tank train would work? I remember I built one years ago (in High School) and as well as I remember the gear-train wasn't much bigger than the area in the lower hull of the Chariot. The drawback that I remamber was that the tank wasn't R/C. It was a drive-by-wire.
If anyone comes up with a way to add a motor the Chariot, I'd really be interested.
beatlepaul 08-14-2008, 08:52 AM BP,
Superior work on the luggage! If I could cast anything new for this kit (after a crew) it would be just the type of luggage you made there.
I think the next area to work on would be replacement curtains. Something in foil (like your chrome /mylar blanket) that isn't nearly as "thick" as the stock parts
Excellent work, I can't wait to see what you do next!
Why thank you kind Sir:thumbsup:
Yes, Making replacement curtains is on my list as well.
I am also looking forward to the Upcomming Figure Kits!!
BP
starseeker2 08-14-2008, 11:55 AM For the curtains use a thin chrome mylar, like a bit of space blanket.
djnick66 08-14-2008, 12:26 PM Making this thing motorized seems to be moot... the kit tracks are aparently tight enought that they aren't going to budge. Motorized kits need very loose tracks becuase the motors dont have a lot of torque.
My Chariot rolls with very little resistance , ie: the tracks aren't very tight.
djnick66 08-14-2008, 03:30 PM Thats good to hear. One of the build ups showed the tracks as being so tight they deformed in the middle.
On the other hand, there is just no room for a motor, gear box and two C cell batteries.
j2man 08-14-2008, 03:39 PM I have an old Tamiya tank kit with a small gearbox. The battery box calls for 2 AA batteries. I also believe you can purchase the robot kit. It looks very similiar to the old tank track kit I have.........My kit should arrive today or tomorrow! I let everyone know if it works. I'm pretty sure I still have the box to the tank kit. I know when I got mine it had a wood base that you mount everything on. The new ones have a plastic base...
Thor1956 08-14-2008, 09:43 PM Making this thing motorized seems to be moot... the kit tracks are aparently tight enought that they aren't going to budge. Motorized kits need very loose tracks becuase the motors dont have a lot of torque.
I've had the same problem on some tank kits ... just filed the hole along the horizontal axis until the the tracks moved smoothly ...
Thor1956 08-14-2008, 09:45 PM I have an old Tamiya tank kit with a small gearbox. The battery box calls for 2 AA batteries. I also believe you can purchase the robot kit. It looks very similiar to the old tank track kit I have.........My kit should arrive today or tomorrow! I let everyone know if it works. I'm pretty sure I still have the box to the tank kit. I know when I got mine it had a wood base that you mount everything on. The new ones have a plastic base...
J2 ... do you remember which Tamiya kit that was?
djnick66 08-15-2008, 09:43 AM The smallest gear boxes came in their 1960s 1/48 tanks. But overall Tamiya hasn't sold motorized tanks since the 80s.
I would recommend the cheap Zhengdefu or Mini Hobby 1/48 kits. They have a bit more compact gear boxes and battery boxes, etc.
enterprise_fan 08-16-2008, 08:04 PM Man you did a great job on this thing! I wish mine would show up soon from TVCultman! I wonder what's takin' so long?!!!!
I feel your pain. I'm here in Florida waiting for word that my Chariot is on its way to me. Once I get the word I should have it in two days.
Thor1956 08-17-2008, 06:28 AM The smallest gear boxes came in their 1960s 1/48 tanks. But overall Tamiya hasn't sold motorized tanks since the 80s.
I would recommend the cheap Zhengdefu or Mini Hobby 1/48 kits. They have a bit more compact gear boxes and battery boxes, etc.
DJ and Everyone,
For motorizing the Chariot ... does anyone remember about 5 or 6 years ago, about Christmas, Radio Shack (Tandy) sold some miniture R/C Tanks?
I bought one for my son ... and it's still floating around here somewhere ...
As well as I remember these tanks were 1/72 scale! They came with a recharging base that was a diorama ...
I remember that the motors really had alot of torque to them, but the run time was less than 30 minutes.
Does anyone remember who made them?
Dan
gareee 08-17-2008, 08:20 AM I picked up the tanks at walmart a few years ago.. the treads roted off them in about 6 months, and I could never locate the company online, so I think it was one of those "generic" manufacturers, that sticks a store brand label on their products.
djnick66 08-17-2008, 10:54 AM Dragon sold some 1/72 RC tanks. They were RC versions of their M1 and Tiger I tanks.
john_trek 08-17-2008, 12:41 PM beatlepaul;
What did you use for the luggage straps? They look good.
AJ-1701 08-18-2008, 08:37 AM Just checked out your build again... :thumbsup: I really like the whole luggage area. A Most Excelent Job mate. :wave:
Thor1956 08-19-2008, 08:58 PM Dragon sold some 1/72 RC tanks. They were RC versions of their M1 and Tiger I tanks.
Ok Guys ... EUREKA!!!
Here's the address for the Micro X Tech R/C Tanks ...
http://www.dragonmodelsusa.com/dmlusa/prodmidh.asp?tlcode=DRC
Many Thank to DJnick66 for reminding me of the Brand Name.
Dan
beatlepaul 08-22-2008, 02:59 PM beatlepaul;
What did you use for the luggage straps? They look good.
Thank you Sir.
The best way to replicate the scale correctly is to use Masking Tape Cut into strips:thumbsup:
I then Painted them Silver. I attached the straps using White Glue(Sobo).
BruceDownunder 08-27-2008, 04:16 AM I just googled it and it's even available here in Australia too... :thumbsup:
thanks for the heads up on it.
I was in the hobby shop today planning to pick up some of the BMF amongs other things for my Chariot, but the guy in the shop showed me something called Micro Metal Foil adhesive.
It's made by MicroScale Industries and I suspect it's nothing but enhanced white (PVA) glue.
Anyway, you brush it on to dull side of regular tin foil, wait a few minutes for it to lose it's milky colour and then lay it down and burnish as you would BMF.
I tried it on a scrap piece of plastic and it worked beautifully - at least as well as BMF and at a third of the price.
Hope this helps and oh, yeah - Hi!
Long time lurker and I've been around on and off since 1997.
Cheers,
Bruce :wave:
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