Here are a few links to help in your electric 1/8th scale quest;
www.rcproductdesigns.com
www.rc-monster.com
www.teknorc.com

http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthread.php?t=158327

Here are some pics of my cars,
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Very nice man i wish i had the cash to convert mine, oh well

It cost the same to build an electric 1/8th as it does to build a quality nitro 1/8th.

This is an incredible emerging class in RC.
At the same weight as a Nitro 1/8th scale and about the same investment you get a vehicle that is faster with more low end torque than comparable Nitro vehicles. Depending on the electronics you use, you can up to 15 min or more in race conditions. The jumping is incredible. The speed... beyond compare.
In the March issue of RC Car magazine, they tested a sponsored Mugen drivers Nitro vehicle against an Electrice coversion with a Neu 1512 1.5D/F motor. The Nitro 0-40 Mph was 5.38 seconds. The Electric 0-40 mph... 2.06 seconds.
Check out the many videos on You tube.
Feel free to ask any questions.
Dan

This is an incredible emerging class in RC.
At the same weight as a Nitro 1/8th scale....

Feel free to ask any questions.
Dan
OK, Here's my question: How do you get them to be the same weight as a nitro?

Doug (badassrevo) said his 8ight buggy was 7 pounds 10 ounces RTR. I weighed mine (and took it to the Post Office just to get a "second opinion" on the weight) and it was 8 pounds 5.6 ounces. That was with a MaxAmps 6000 4S pack. I know that battery is regarded as a little heavy, but it weighs 20 ounces. How does Doug's car get to be 11.6 ounces less? (I asked but he kind of ignored followup questions.) Is he running an 8.4 ounce battery?

Note: I'm using a battery tray I made myself to replace the 1st generation RCPD tray. My tray and the 1st gen RCPD tray (which I still have) both come in at about 5 ounces. So I haven't added 11.6 ounces in the battery tray.

Seriously, both cars have Neu 1512 motors, Mamba Maxes, and the same basic chassis and RCPD motor mount. Yes, I have a RC-Monster rear endbell cover and am using 5.5MM bullets on the motor instead of direct solder, but I can't see how that accounts for 11 ounces. Can you give me any advice on tracking down the extra weight?

OK, Here's my question: How do you get them to be the same weight as a nitro?

Doug (badassrevo) said his 8ight buggy was 7 pounds 10 ounces RTR. I weighed mine (and took it to the Post Office just to get a "second opinion" on the weight) and it was 8 pounds 5.6 ounces. That was with a MaxAmps 6000 4S pack. I know that battery is regarded as a little heavy, but it weighs 20 ounces. How does Doug's car get to be 11.6 ounces less? (I asked but he kind of ignored followup questions.) Is he running an 8.4 ounce battery?

Note: I'm using a battery tray I made myself to replace the 1st generation RCPD tray. My tray and the 1st gen RCPD tray (which I still have) both come in at about 5 ounces. So I haven't added 11.6 ounces in the battery tray.

Seriously, both cars have Neu 1512 motors, Mamba Maxes, and the same basic chassis and RCPD motor mount. Yes, I have a RC-Monster rear endbell cover and am using 5.5MM bullets on the motor instead of direct solder, but I can't see how that accounts for 11 ounces. Can you give me any advice on tracking down the extra weight?

The new RCPD battery trays are lightened underneath. Usually 1-2 ounces.
Not sure how Doug is measuring his buggy.
8.5 is not bad.

Looks like Doug has no additional aluminum chassis upgrades. Does your truck have any?

I just weighed my 8t electric conversion with 5S pack race ready + some dirt and it was 9.5 lbs. I only have the aluminum chassis braces. Ooopsss... you guys are talking Buggies. Sorry.

The weight on my car was taken at CRCRC with Panther slicks on it. I have never weighed it other than CRCRC electric champs race.

The new RCPD battery trays are lightened underneath. Usually 1-2 ounces.
Not sure how Doug is measuring his buggy.
8.5 is not bad.

They have been lightened by 1-2 ounces or weigh 1-2 ounces? (Wow!) I can probably take another ounce off mine with some more machining.
Good to know that 8.5 is in the ballpark.

Looks like Doug has no additional aluminum chassis upgrades. Does your truck have any?

I just weighed my 8t electric conversion with 5S pack race ready + some dirt and it was 9.5 lbs. I only have the aluminum chassis braces. Ooopsss... you guys are talking Buggies. Sorry.
Mine's a buggy. The only aluminum is the chassis, the RCPD motor mount and the top plate/ESC mount, and a .080 front motor cover the same diameter as the motor.

Guys who have the nitro 8ights say my buggy feels like the weight of a truggy (a subjective measure to be sure).

The weight on my car was taken at CRCRC with Panther slicks on it. I have never weighed it other than CRCRC electric champs race.
Can you tell me how much a set of mounted slicks weighs (or even just one) so I can weigh my tires for comparison?

BA....REVO i weighed a couple of my local buddies 1/8 cars that also weighed them at the crcrc race. both were losi 8ights and they also weighed about 7lbs 10 oz on their scales.
i couldnt believe how light they supposidly were so i weighed them with my digital fish scale that is accurate within 10 gms. they both weighed in at between 8.05 and 8.1 lbs track ready. this scale has been tested against my other dietary scale and my local post office scales and has been found to be very accurate.
i would be very interested to know what your track ready buggy would weigh at your local post office. they will weigh it for you no problem. please post back your results if you do so.

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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:33 am Post subject: Losi 8IGHT Brushless Kit and Motors

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Losi's own Brushless conversion to convert your 8IGHT buggy into a Electric Buggy.



LOSA0912 8IGHT Electronic Conversion Kit Hardware Package $79.99

Xcelorin Brushless Systems from Losi represent the latest development in brushless power and performance. The 1/8-scale 1300Kv/1700Kv/2100Kv Xcelorin Sensorless Motor and Electronic Speed Control Combo will convert any 8IGHT-based race or RTR vehicle into an electric vehicle. Enjoy the brute torque and speed achieved through brushless technology with Losi’s 1/8-scale Xcelorin Sensorless Brushless Systems.
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LOSB9516 1/8 Xcelorin Sensorless ESC $189.99
LOSB9420 1/8 Xcelorin Brushless Motor, 1300Kv $179.99
LOSB9421 1/8 Xcelorin Brushless Motor, 1700Kv $179.99
LOSB9422 1/8 Xcelorin Brushless Motor, 2100Kv $179.99
LOSB9556 1/8 Xcelorin Brushless Combo, 1300Kv $334.99
LOSB9557 1/8 Xcelorin Brushless Combo, 1700Kv $334.99
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Look here for a diagram:
http://www.losi.com/ProdInfo/Files/8IGHTEexplode2.pdf

Here's all the info I've been able to gather so far.

8IGHT Electronic Conversion Kit Hardware Package
Electric-oriented modelers eager to drive Losi's renowned 8IGHT or 8IGHT-T are going to love this new 8IGHT Electric Conversion Hardware Kit . The kit converts the nitro-powered 8IGHT family of products into an electric-powered ride. The hardware kit includes a molded battery tray and straps for up to a 5 cell LiPo pack, radio tray, aluminum motor mount, 2 pinion gears (1 for buggy, 1 for truggy), spur gear and all screws and washers needed to mount the components to the chassis.

Features:
-Molded battery tray with three hook and loop straps capable of holding a 3-5 cell LiPo battery pack
-Radio tray designed specifically for the 8IGHT-E
-Comes with all hardware, including screws and washers needed to mount components to chassis
-Two pinion gears (15T and 16T) and one 45T spur gear

1/8 Xcelorin Brushless Motor 1300kV, 1700Kv, and 2100Kv
Xcelorin Brushless Systems from Losi represent the latest development in brushless power and performance. The 1/8-scale 2100Kv Xcelorin Sensorless Motor will convert any 8IGHT-based race or RTR vehicle into an electric vehicle. Enjoy the brute torque and speed achieved through brushless technology with Losi’s 1/8-scale Xcelorin Sensorless Brushless Systems.

The powerful 720-sized Xcelorin Sensorless brushless motor offers performance designed features like a sintered neodymium rotor, precision motor ball bearings, and is virtually maintenance free.

Features:
-Powerful, 720-sized brushless motor
-No motor maintenance required
-Precision motor ball bearings for smoother operation
-Sintered Neodymium rotor
-Longer run times

1/8 Xcelorin Sensorless ESC
The 1/8-scale Xcelorin Sensorless Electronic Speed Control will convert any 8IGHT-based race or RTR vehicle into an electric vehicle. The fully programmable, high-output ESC can handle up to a 5-cell LiPo battery pack, and offers precise throttle and braking control. Additionally, the ESC offers tons of programming options, including adjustable throttle limits, selectable user profiles, and much more using the Quick Programming Card.

Features
-150A continuous current with 720A peak
-Prewired Losi EC5 power connector
-Accommodates up to a 5-cell LiPo battery pack
-High-speed cooling fan for lower running temperatures and protection
-Optimized for Spektrum or legacy radio systems
-Adjustable low-voltage cutoff to protect your battery investment
-Forward/Brake with Reverse or Forward/Brake settings
-Forward and reverse throttle limiting available
-Four LEDs to indicate functions
-Two preset drive profiles with unlimited potential with a PC
-Quick Programming Card allows adjustments to the ESC without the need for a computer
-Includes three pre-programmed profiles for convenience
-PC setup software CD included for complete configuration of profiles
-Software interface allows for unlimited profile settings and tuning
-Adjust brake and throttle curve settings with the simple-to-use graphical interface software

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I applaud the sensible range of motors Losi is releasing - 1300, 1700, 2100. These are actually usable on a track and provide awesome runtimes with minimal heat.

Interesting design. I am anxious to see it in a chassis.

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LOSA3570 1.0 Module Pitch Pinion, 10T: 8E $9.99
LOSA3571 1.0 Module Pitch Pinion, 11T: 8E $9.99
LOSA3572 1.0 Module Pitch Pinion, 12T: 8E $9.99
LOSA3573 1.0 Module Pitch Pinion, 13T: 8E $9.99
LOSA3574 1.0 Module Pitch Pinion, 14T: 8E $9.99
LOSA3575 1.0 Module Pitch Pinion, 15T: 8E $9.99
LOSA3576 1.0 Module Pitch Pinion, 16T: 8E $9.99
LOSA3577 1.0 Module Pitch Pinion, 17T: 8E $9.99
LOSA3578 1.0 Module Pitch Pinion, 18T: 8E $9.99

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The RC Product Designs conversion kits are now available online thru A Main Hobbies in addition to my web site.
I am also now carrying Robinson Racing hardened Mod 1 pitch pinions.

Thanks Doug for those detailed pictures of the Competition!!! LOL!

electric 8th scale is awsome, i ran at MX131 2 weekends ago, and passed the best nitro guy (kia goff) down the straight like he was standing still. i finished 3rd behind Dooda, only because someone (Dave Washburn) told me it was a 30 min main, but was only 20. so i dumped at the 13 min mark, had to be scooped up, swapped a batt, and ran really hard for the last 5 minutes. if ide known it was a 20 min main, i might have either won or gotten second.

electric 1/8, its the wave of the future, MARK MY WORDS!!!!!!

electric 8th scale is awsome, i ran at MX131 2 weekends ago, and passed the best nitro guy (kia goff) down the straight like he was standing still. i finished 3rd behind Dooda, only because someone (Dave Washburn) told me it was a 30 min main, but was only 20. so i dumped at the 13 min mark, had to be scooped up, swapped a batt, and ran really hard for the last 5 minutes. if ide known it was a 20 min main, i might have either won or gotten second.

electric 1/8, its the wave of the future, MARK MY WORDS!!!!!!

You wouldn't have gotten second, my friend.:thumbsup:

And Sry again apple i thought it was a 30 main till it started

http://losi.com/Products/Features.as...d=LOSTRUGECONV
http://losi.com/Products/Features.as...Id=LOSBUGECONV

Looks good, you get all the nitro stuff and the electric stuff. You can run nitro in the summer and electric in the winter.

More and More choices on the market. It will be very interesting to see how it all works out.
Nice that there is options for those wanting to start new. AND for those who already have their favorite buggy and just want a change or circumstance at the track have changed so that they can't run Nitro any more.

Check out the schedule at Washtenaw RC Raceway in the Off Road forum.
We have a fantastic 1/8th scale electric buggy and truggy class at Washtenaw all winter long.

Can someone advise a specific battery to use and what run time can be expected? I am looking to get a Mamba 2200kv brushless.

Can someone advise a specific battery to use and what run time can be expected? I am looking to get a Mamba 2200kv brushless.

Check out the FAQ section on my web site www.rcproductdesigns.com

Many choices... price and performance. Please do some research before jumping in.
What vehicle, What motor? The Mamba motor will not hold up. mamba max ESC will be fine.

dan i think he is talking about the soon to be released mamba motor and monster max esc package. the motor is based on the nue design.

Yes, the new Mamba in a 1/8 converted Losi buggy.

That motor will be fine. I run the same (Neu) in my truggy.

Any input on the MEDusa 36-60-2000 or the 36-50-2200 either on 4s.

Seems like the 2200 is a higher KV with less amp draw (90 for the 2200 vs 105 for the 2000)

I was reading on RC tech and I found a little info on the Med motors someone said the 50mm was plenty of motor (torque wise). I know most of the time you get what you pay for but a $129 for the MEDusa motor it is alomost too good to pass up....if the duribliity is there.

Oh, anyone know the release data on the v3 MMM?

Thanks,

Chris

hey doug and chris ,
The kids want to run converted mbx5t's this year for indoor and for next outdoor, and i want to play too!
I am not sure where to start. can you help!???
lmn
thanks, steve

hey doug and chris ,
The kids want to run converted mbx5t's this year for indoor and for next outdoor, and i want to play too!
I am not sure where to start. can you help!???
lmn
thanks, steve

Start readin' (http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric-off-road/158327-electric-1-8th-scale-conversion-kits.html)!!!! :):):)

Seriously though, Doug would be your best bet for info. I was talking ho him up in Ashtabula last week and he said he was running a NEU 1515 ? in his truck Mambe Monster Max ESC maybe wait until v3 is released (although Doug has not had any issues with his MMM).

For batteries he told me about a good inexpenssive pack to run indoors (and practice/quals out) but I cannot remeber the name (maybe the zippy packs?)

I am looking into the MEDusa (http://www.medusaproducts.com/Motors/036-V2.htm) motors as they seem to be getting good reviews (the couple that I found) and they are a lot cheaper! But if Doug tells me to stay away I will!!!

Good luck!!!!

Chris

The Medusa motors run good. Just a little more heat than the Neu. Well worth the money. They will not fit the new Losi motor mount. The Zippy R packs are very good too.

Steve,
you have two choices, clutch and brakes or just a motor like a normal electric car?

check out www.rcproductdesigns.com or www.teknorc.com and www.rc-monster.com

I would recomend the Neu 1515/1y in a truggy with the Castle Monster Mamba

[quote=badassrevo;2544305]The Medusa motors run good. Just a little more heat than the Neu. Well worth the money. They will not fit the new Losi motor mount. The Zippy R packs are very good too.

Do they not have the normal 25mm bolt pattern? Or is it more of a size thing?

Chris

The front bearing is to large. The mounting face of the Medusa is not flat, the bearing protrudes out and is too big to fit in the mount.

This is my plan! any suggestions would be great. I have the losi conversion kit 80.00. Looks nice. Going to go without the plastic spacer that raises the diff,and just open up the chassis so i can transfer heat. madusa 2200 114.00 drill out hole in lois mount to size. used mm update 1.7,2 fans 100.00. zippy 5s 4000 35c 98.00. prices may vary.
new to this,trying to learn from the threads. advice? Thanks.

Where are you getting the medusa 2200 for $86????? Do tell!!!! :thumbsup:

Never mind...I found it.

Afterburner = $86
Aftrburner v2 =$106

www.medusaresearch.com

Chris

You nee the 60mm medusa, the 50 is too small for a buggy. If you go with the 2000kv you can run 4s and 5s. I think the 2200kv would be too fast for 5s.

Thanks Doug.

You have run your car on 5s before right? Did you get any better run time?

Chris

You nee the 60mm medusa, the 50 is too small for a buggy. If you go with the 2000kv you can run 4s and 5s. I think the 2200kv would be too fast for 5s.

Found it, thanks. Still thinking 2200 though.

Yes, 5s with out changing the gearing nets better run time and lower motor temps.

Thanks Doug....that's what I thought but I wanted to double check.

Chris

http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail.php?prod=RCMFPbatterytray

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=7239&Product_Name=ZIPPY-R_4800mAh_25C_4S1P

http://www.medusaproducts.com/motors/036-V2.htm#MR036060XXXX-5

http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail.php?prod=mambamonsteresc&cat=21

Where are you racin' this weekend Doug?

I am thinking the Zippy-R but in 5s and a 2000 or maybe a 2200 K/V motor. I alos plan to make my own battery tray out of Delrin like the pro tray for the 8ight.

Delrin is pretty cheap and I can machine it so what the heck! I am also toying with the idea of smaller saddle packs but that would require another charger so I thinking I will go with the single battery. The 808 has the motor shoved way over to the side like the Losi so I should ahve good balance.

Chris

Where are you racin' this weekend Doug?

I have been thinking Medina. send me your phone number. dlightcap@flightoptions.com

The 4s is ideal for people that own an ICE charger. If you already own a charger that will do a 5s then you are set.