View Full Version : Snap in axle on a Tjet...?


noddaz
06-07-2008, 09:10 PM
I have been following the other thread that is asking for a chassis that has the option of a snap in rear axle.
What about the crown gear? The mag cars in question have gears with different numbers of teeth. In the different Tjet racing I have been involved in you are allowed a 15 tooth crown gear only.
Does that mean keeping different set up gear plates with 9, 12 and 14 tooth gears with different crown gears on axles?
Sounds almost easier to slide axles in and out... lol

Just stirring the pot...

Scott

martybauer31
06-07-2008, 09:23 PM
I have been following the other thread that is asking for a chassis that has the option of a snap in rear axle.
What about the crown gear? The mag cars in question have gears with different numbers of teeth. In the different Tjet racing I have been involved in you are allowed a 15 tooth crown gear only.
Does that mean keeping different set up gear plates with 9, 12 and 14 tooth gears with different crown gears on axles?
Sounds almost easier to slide axles in and out... lol

Just stirring the pot...

Scott

Same here, I have only ever done fray style racing so the gearing doesn't change.

Nope, it's about ease of installation first and foremost... as opposed to having to try and press the the axle through the crown and balance the stupid spacers, whoops, missed a spacer, whoops, not enough spacing, whoops, too tight... If I need to change the spacing, I could just pop off a tire, add or subtract a spacer or move the crown gear a bit and pop it back in versus having to remove the entire stupid assembly every single time, unless people like doing that. Sooner or later those tires and that crown gear are going to get loose from pushing them on and off.

Secondly, you could have multiple setups with different tire sizes, it would be nice to go run some laps and just pop in a new axle if it feels too low or too high....

Obviously you can argue it any way you like, it's just a nice feature to have to let you spend more time on the track and less time with your tools. Works really well with other car types.

twolff
06-07-2008, 09:32 PM
Problem with snap-in axles is that they also snap-out--usually at a bad time. I'm not intrested in pinning t-jet rear axles.

martybauer31
06-07-2008, 10:21 PM
Problem with snap-in axles is that they also snap-out--usually at a bad time. I'm not intrested in pinning t-jet rear axles.

We run G-Jets without pinning them, I have never ever had one come out on me and they run a great deal faster than any fray car ever would.

Montoya1
06-08-2008, 05:25 AM
A snap in axle seems a no brainer to me.

If a new version of the TJ has holes for axle pinning that would be even better, why would anyone have an issue with that? I wish all chassis had pinning holes.

lenny
06-08-2008, 08:14 AM
A snap in axle seems a no brainer to me.
It's not original, it won't have instant acceptance into racing groups. Have you been reading the other thread at all???

If a new version of the TJ has holes for axle pinning that would be even better, why would anyone have an issue with that? I wish all chassis had pinning holes.
oh great.... Now if ANY version of this chassis shows up with a pinned rear axle, Deane will take credit for it...

The 'ultimate' pinned rear axle is to leave it exactly that way it is and not open it up in the first place.

Montoya1
06-08-2008, 08:49 AM
Seems agressive Dan is back in play :(

Axle pinning has been around for years, you know it, I know it and everyone knows it so I'm not going to claim any different. Any claims I have made up to now have been 100% factual and I have no idea why a select few have a problem with that.

As far as the axle goes, what you do depends on your target audience. If you intend to make an exact clone then there was no need to come on forums asking people's opinions, just make the clone.

lenny
06-08-2008, 12:22 PM
Seems agressive Dan is back in play :(


it seems pompous Deane has never left...

lenny
06-08-2008, 12:28 PM
Any claims I have made up to now have been 100% factual and I have no idea why a select few have a problem with that.
:jest:

More blow hard hot air...

lenny
06-08-2008, 12:48 PM
If you intend to make an exact clone then there was no need to come on forums asking people's opinions, just make the clone.you really DON'T read all the posts, do you?? I was actually on board with a snap in rear axle. I was also in favor of offering different resistance armatures, which is the post that started this whole ball rolling. I personally favor Delrin gears and I have a gear plate sitting here that allows the use of multiple gear ratios. I was looking to make multiple changes to the chassis, so don't go blowing hot air at me about asking for peoples opinions, and blowing them off. The people who are responding are mostly doing so in a thoughtful way, presenting valid arguments for their positions. Your posts ALWAYS take on the defensive tone of 'I don't know why people have a problem with yada,yada, yada.... Pinned axles in a T-Jet?? Whatever.....

All of these enhancements and more (except for pinned axles and adjustable traction magnets) will probably make it into 'some' pancake chassis, but the overwhelming feedback I'm getting it to offer a dead stock, high quality replacement for the original Aurora.

I dread you posting on my topics because 90% of the time you offer no really useful information.

Montoya1
06-08-2008, 12:52 PM
I dread you posting on my topics because 90% of the time you offer no really useful information.

Easily solved. But please stop passing judgement on me in return. Lets just avoid each other, life is too short.

lenny
06-08-2008, 12:56 PM
Easily solved.good boy:thumbsup:

lenny
06-08-2008, 01:02 PM
Easily solved. But please stop passing judgement on me in return. Lets just avoid each other, life is too short.My 'judgement' of you is already pretty well established. Perhaps you should think a bit more before you post. It's obvious that you don't.

martybauer31
06-08-2008, 01:15 PM
Snap-in axles would be awesome at some point, if not in the initial release, so be it.... Pinned axles on a t-jet? C'mon.... give me a break.

I think it's great that someone who is wanting to undertake this is asking for peoples opinions and seems to be willing to listen. If the majority of folks want a stock t-jet that is straight I am all for it, maybe there is a custom down the road somewhere.

Either way, if it's good, put me in for a case of them Dan!

1976Cordoba
06-08-2008, 01:50 PM
At some point how about an inline car that is TJet chassis size with a snap-in axle? We could still use the Tjet bods without fussing with all the gears and have the ease of use of a pop-in axle.

AfxToo
06-08-2008, 02:15 PM
Ease of manufacturing a quality product should be paramount. Sorry to diverge, but the one thing JL/AW struggled with and never did get quite right was the brush springs on the TJet. Had they used the Magnatraction/XT style brush setup (or brush cups) they would have greatly relieved the number of out-of-box issues with the TJets. I can't imagine why anyone would not entertain putting one of the most error prone parts of the manufacturing process behind us.

lenny
06-08-2008, 03:03 PM
At some point how about an inline car that is TJet chassis size with a snap-in axle? We could still use the Tjet bods without fussing with all the gears and have the ease of use of a pop-in axle.
Like turbo-screw...

1976Cordoba
06-08-2008, 03:42 PM
Like turbo-screw...

Ahh -- misread something somewhere then. Thought that was going to be Tyco / Turbo style sized.