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AJ-1701 05-23-2008, 08:42 PM Ok I got mine a week ago last Thursday :woohoo:and spent some hours test fitting and going through the various ways of doing the sub assembly in my over excited little mind. Then there is the process of how I'd go putting lighting in it:freak:
Ok as for the lighting I armed myself up with a set of led outdoor Xmas lights with a flashing control, a soldering iron and a cheap fibre optic lamp I bought. So now I’m set. :p With some rewiring and some forward planning added to a some web research I began, by the way no one over here does f/o kits or similar. :cry:
To date I have FS1’s bay glued in place.
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Picture333-1.jpg
with the control room on top and about 95% finished. I used the flasher and f/optics to give the control room a bit of life. I found and predominantly used this link on the web to research my colours and lay out. I have also installed lights in the tail fin sub assemblies.
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Picture334-1.jpg
After reading what has been written about its glories and or faults and possible conversions to correct the model into an exacting replica of the filming miniature/s I pretty much decided to go with the out of the box solution. I know the limits of my abilities and recasting windows, extending and or reshaping hulls is not in those limits. But I do however bow in respect to those that can and do such achievements. However after a test fit in the hull and the window in place I may yet still go with the clear pieces cut from a blister pack because the fish eye look is somewhat more extreme than I imagined.
AJ-1701 05-23-2008, 08:53 PM Some shots of the control room so far
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Picture331-1.jpg
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I know a lot of detail will be out of site but things like the chart table just looked plain so I used .5mm f/o for pencils and a bit of plasticard for the ruler. The forward observation room has a shot of apple one with the giant blue whale coming up on it and the opposite wall just screamed for a map. As for the computer it just looked odd with out the data tape running through them. I'm hoping though when I light the ceiling you can see most of it. But as for me well I know I did it. :thumbsup:
And the flashing lights look really cool so I was doubly amazed at how they look and that I pulled it off. :p
solex227 05-23-2008, 09:05 PM Keep going... your control room looks great!
:thumbsup:
bert model maker 05-23-2008, 09:07 PM WOW, that looks OUTSTANDING, great job ! what did you use to paint the floor ? spray paint or brush on paint ? your panel detail is excellent. I can't wait to see the rest of your seaview.
Bert
beatlepaul 05-23-2008, 09:14 PM Great Job.....:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Keep it comming...Build, Brother Build.
High Regards,
BP
WOW!!!
REEEEEAAALLY GOOD. I might as well just spray some clear flat across the windows of my Seaview and forget about an interior.
FoxTrot 05-24-2008, 12:34 AM Looking so coool....! Fox, also from Down under!
AJ-1701 05-24-2008, 12:36 AM WOW, that looks OUTSTANDING, great job ! what did you use to paint the floor ? spray paint or brush on paint ? your panel detail is excellent. I can't wait to see the rest of your seaview.
Bert
The floor is GW hawk torquise applied with a flat brush.
All my paints are acrylic, I've never been a big fan of enamels. Also I can be an impatient sod at times too. :p Its very hard to get model masters acrylic in brisbane. All my paints are either games workshop or tamiya. I find that with a good quality flat brush and the right consistancy of paint I can quite often get the look I'm after. Because I'm still, after all these years, not that good with an air brush :freak: so most of everything is hand done. That said I will be using my airbrush on the hull :thumbsup:
I Thank you all for all the compliments :o
AJ-1701 05-24-2008, 12:42 AM Great Job.....:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Keep it comming...Build, Brother Build.
High Regards,
BP
I'll give it a shot at matching the quality of your build mate.:thumbsup:
Tonite my tools must rest as it is 'hinted' that time must be spent with the wife... Before I given lodgings in the spare room :p;) But we are off to see Indiana Jones though :wave:
John P 05-24-2008, 08:57 AM Excellent! My control room is just about ready for the fiber-optics to be installed. Still trying to figger out how to install my christmas light string, though.
djnick66 05-24-2008, 09:21 AM Very nice work... paint, lights, detail, everything
Lou Dalmaso 05-24-2008, 09:36 AM Really top notch!!
have you thought of removing the handrail from the spiral staircase?
how did you detal the clear chart at the back? amazing!
Do go with the blister pack windows, tho. It would be a crime not to be able to see that sweet interior!
Kudos Maximus!
gareee 05-24-2008, 10:50 AM I had looked that those smaller battery powered flashing crhistmas light sets on clearance for a buck this last season, and just couldn't think of any use at all for them.
Now I'm kicking myself for not picking a few up!
I LOVE your interior paint scheme.. it brins it to "life" quite well.
Maybe you could make an animated gif with your flashing lights working?
AJ-1701 05-25-2008, 09:16 AM Really top notch!!
have you thought of removing the handrail from the spiral staircase?
how did you detal the clear chart at the back? amazing!
Do go with the blister pack windows, tho. It would be a crime not to be able to see that sweet interior!
Kudos Maximus!
Thanks mate
Hadn't thought about the hand rail??? The vertical plotter I just dry brushed with black till I got the look I was happy with.
I have been saving some blister backs though for the window :thumbsup:
AJ-1701 05-25-2008, 09:29 AM I had looked that those smaller battery powered flashing crhistmas light sets on clearance for a buck this last season, and just couldn't think of any use at all for them.
Now I'm kicking myself for not picking a few up!
I LOVE your interior paint scheme.. it brins it to "life" quite well.
Maybe you could make an animated gif with your flashing lights working?
Thaks mate...
The interior colours I could only work with stuff on the net and how the colours were displayed on my monitor.
As for the xmas lights I got the only thing that caught me out was the fact that I cut off all the lights I didn't need. But I didn't figure they'd be set up as a series to counter the power adaptors voltage :freak: Arfter a couple slowly burned out I ran the volt meter over the wires and OOOPPS with only running two I didn't allow for extra resistance. So it was another trip down to Dick Smiths for some more bits. but it's all good now. Tonite I finished putting in al the seated crew, bar one because he is destined for the flying sub. And I have preped all the remaing lites for the rest of the model and started on the main hull. The only thing that went bad was testing the lights with the f/o's for the tail lights. I forgot to add resistors and phfft :o NO LIGHTS:cry: It was an experiance fixing that little fopar let me tell you... Ahh well whats life with out learning :p
gareee 05-25-2008, 10:32 AM Now ya got me kicking myself for not only getting those flashing lights on clearance at christmas time, but also about not thinking about blinking lights adding "life" to the control room.
I was kinda settled on just overhead lighting, and some drilled out holes for lighting, or fiber, but now I'm mulling over getting a flashing small led string, and tying it into the bigger christmas light string as well. Course this'll mean another delay in building.. sigh.
AJ-1701 05-27-2008, 09:58 AM As it goes so far...
I have attached the conning tower with lights in side. I am all but done on the limber holes. Hopefully I'll have them drilled and cleaned out tomorrow night. The control room is all but done though I still haven't decided about the handrail on the stairs yet. Here is a video of the control room through the nose. So far it all is going together nicely. :woohoo: I may still have to warm down the interior light some more cause it still seems a bit bright. It comes out a bit on the blue side which it's not...:rolleyes:
Just click on the image and it should take you to the link...
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/th_Picture353.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/?action=view¤t=Picture353.flv)
Zorro 05-27-2008, 10:01 AM ^ Wow!!!
gareee 05-27-2008, 10:02 AM That was very cool, and helpful.. it lets me know what to expect as far as how much can be seen or not seen.
Thanks MUCH!
beatlepaul 05-27-2008, 10:29 AM Looking Good my friend!!:thumbsup::thumbsup:
If you want to tone down that Bluish tint Like I did, You could either..1)Dip the tips of your Leds in clear orange Paint or...2) Filter the lights through a piece of cut Clear Orange Styrene.
It gives it the look of Incandescent Bulbs....
Great Job!!!!
BP
AJ-1701 05-27-2008, 06:57 PM Looking Good my friend!!:thumbsup::thumbsup:
If you want to tone down that Bluish tint Like I did, You could either..1)Dip the tips of your Leds in clear orange Paint or...2) Filter the lights through a piece of cut Clear Orange Styrene.
It gives it the look of Incandescent Bulbs....
Great Job!!!!
BP
Thanks mate. I did think of using orange but I thought it might have been too strong. I've been using my yellow and rust games workshop inks mixed with a bit of their foundation stone. After seeing the test I was amazed at how strong the leds white is. :drunk: but the orange wash sounds like the go now.:thumbsup:
I finaly got the hull colour I'm after late last night... :freak: at least I'm not short on the origional dark blue -grey I mixed now :p I just put in my origional mix and white about 60/40 and mixed in some dark brown just to tone/dirty it down. For the bottom I think I'll be going primarily with 75/25 mix of white and tamiyas jn grey and work the tones down from there.
bert model maker 05-27-2008, 08:42 PM As it goes so far...
I have attached the conning tower with lights in side. I am all but done on the limber holes. Hopefully I'll have them drilled and cleaned out tomorrow night. The control room is all but done though I still haven't decided about the handrail on the stairs yet. Here is a video of the control room through the nose. So far it all is going together nicely. :woohoo: I may still have to warm down the interior light some more cause it still seems a bit bright. It comes out a bit on the blue side but it is...:rolleyes:
Just click on the image and it should take you to the link...
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/th_Picture353.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/?action=view¤t=Picture353.flv)
wow, outstanding AJ-1701, nice work on your seaview ! & thanks for the movie clip, It really shows your interior. Is that view taken with the kits front window OR, did you replace your front window to get rid of the distorted fish bowl look that I hear is caused by the window that comes with the kit ?
Bert
AJ-1701 05-27-2008, 09:08 PM Thanks Bert. :thumbsup:
It was done with now windows... I'm still trying to get the clear thin plastic cut right to replace the ones supplied with the model :rolleyes: and yes they really do mess up the viewing perspctive. It's like looking through a set of binoculars the wrong way round. :drunk::freak:
Auroranut 05-28-2008, 02:10 AM Hey AJ-1701, are you entering it in QMHE this year? :)
Chris.:)
bert model maker 05-28-2008, 03:19 AM I wonder why they would make such a detailed interior & then make a window that completly ruins what you can see ?
gareee 05-28-2008, 09:45 AM Odds are, they didn't even think about refraction when the made the window molds.
I'll be if we see a second run of the kit, it comes with newly molded windows, and clear cast interior parts.
AJ-1701 05-28-2008, 09:53 AM Hey AJ-1701, are you entering it in QMHE this year? :)
Chris.:)
I have to be honest here and say I,m not sure what QMHE is...:o
If it a competion or expo sort of thing then maybe. I've entered some gameing ones in the past and managed to pull of some decent placings. though it does depend on time frame. With doing the other models from Seaview and lighting them as well, yes even the diving bell might get a wee little light in it.:freak: Then there is the diaroma I want to use as the display base...
A quick update on my build though...
All the limber holes are finished with a painted curved card behind them.
Both assembled sections of the hull are ready to prime up.
Still working on the clear film for the window replacments.
Fixed the interior lights exessive brightness, Thanks to Beatlepauls suggestion :thumbsup:
I even managed to reglue the little hand holds on the hull back in place :)
AJ-1701 05-28-2008, 10:00 AM That was very cool, and helpful.. it lets me know what to expect as far as how much can be seen or not seen.
Thanks MUCH!
There isn't much you can't see when all the lights are on especialy with the right temperature of light. Except for the radio room that is. You just have to scope out the angles when you look through the bow windows. :thumbsup:Just like they did in land of the giants when one stumbled across the spindrift :p
Auroranut 05-28-2008, 07:01 PM AJ, QMHE is the Queensland Model and Hobbies Expo held in August at the table tennis centre in Windsor. It's basically the state championships. It's a pretty big comp and attracts heaps of entries from all over Australia. I'm working on my entries (along with other projects) at the moment. Your Seaview would, IMHO, be a major contender for its class at least! If you'd like more info, please PM me. I don't have anything to do with the show apart from entering it and helping man our club stand, but it'd be cool to see your sub on the tables!!:thumbsup:
Chris.:)
AJ-1701 05-30-2008, 03:06 AM I am hoping to start putting on the to hull colour tonite, depending on the weather that is. It's been raining a bit and it has gotten a little humid so I'm not keen on airbrushing with the extra moisture in the air.
I do have a question though....
Are the planes on the conning tower light on the off white colour underneath or are they the same as the hull colour all over????
bert model maker 05-30-2008, 05:40 AM I have seen them painted both ways, Most of pictures I have seen of other models of the seaview have the undersides painted the same color as the belly,. Here is another members seaview and his are the same color as the belly and I think it looks good. Here is another picture of 2 seaviews together but is is hard to see what color the planes underside is.
Bert
beatlepaul 05-30-2008, 06:15 AM I am hoping to start putting on the to hull colour tonite, depending on the weather that is. It's been raining a bit and it has gotten a little humid so I'm not keen on airbrushing with the extra moisture in the air.
I do have a question though....
Are the planes on the conning tower light on the off white colour underneath or are they the same as the hull colour all over????
The diving Planes are the same color as the upper hull.
No lighter color on the bottom.
BP
gareee 05-30-2008, 10:29 AM I'm pretty sure they are the same darker hull color
Admiral Nelson 05-31-2008, 10:11 PM The dive planes underside are the same color as the belly. This has been discussed before.
AJ-1701 06-01-2008, 08:12 AM Thanks for the tips guys.
Well over the w/e there were a few problems at drydock... Some damage caused by the windy weather gusting thru a window had me rebuilding some more of the little hand holds on the missile deck. After assembly and the second coat the red n green lights in the conning tower stopped working!!! In trying to fix them I came close to destoying the model. End result... the damage was repaired but without the lights. :(
As the pics show... the change in colour I used on the inside light and forward spot light worked a treat. Thanks again beatlepaul :thumbsup: I put a 3mm red led in the back of the FS1bay put it turned out to be a 30deg and only a low mcd rating :o I might try to make a lens out of krystal klear to distribute the light. You can just make out the touch of the red glow above the mini sub in the first pic.
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Picture363.jpg
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I included a picture of the main hull colour using a flash and one in normal room light just to see how differant they'd look.
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beatlepaul 06-01-2008, 09:04 AM LOOKIN GOOOOOD My Friend!!!!!!:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
gareee 06-01-2008, 10:12 AM Not much color change with or without flash.. but I do like the variance in light color.. probably will have to do that here as well. Usually I just mix up my preferred color tint, and mix it with future floor wax, until I get the desired transparency in the paint.
While I had been fixing up a christmas light led string for the lighting, I did come up with another option.. when walgreens was clearing out their christmas display, they let me have the display boxes for their led lights.. the ones with a button you put to test them.
Downside of these would be I have one set of clear, and one set of colored, 6 lights on each string. I just don't think 6 lights will be enough to cut it for the seaview lighting, and the colored lights are ptetty much out of the picture.. unless I could rig them together, and the combines color lighting on the control room looked interesting.
I DID see some interesting sound possibilites at walmart on clearance yesterday.. in the toy section, they have a small (cell phone sized or smaller) toy that records your voice, and allows you to play it back at different speeds. I'm not sure how long a recording it actually takes, but I did a "test 123" repeated 3 times, and it recorded all that perfectly.
It's only $5 on clearance, so I might pick one up for tinkering.
I recall that there was a card manufacturer that had the ability to record your voice (or other sounds) on something that went into a greeting card.. that would be small enough, and probably cheap enough to use as a sound source in the seaview.. might google some, and see what I can uncover.
If the seaview cd sounds aren't preferred by someone, I found another great underwater sound source on the 1st disc menu for the seaquest tv series.. it's a looping underwater sound effect.
Course now I want a 39" seaquest....
Knight1966 06-01-2008, 08:10 PM I DID see some interesting sound possibilites at walmart on clearance yesterday.. in the toy section, they have a small (cell phone sized or smaller) toy that records your voice, and allows you to play it back at different speeds. I'm not sure how long a recording it actually takes, but I did a "test 123" repeated 3 times, and it recorded all that perfectly.
It's only $5 on clearance, so I might pick one up for tinkering.
I recall that there was a card manufacturer that had the ability to record your voice (or other sounds) on something that went into a greeting card.. that would be small enough, and probably cheap enough to use as a sound source in the seaview.. might google some, and see what I can uncover.
If the seaview cd sounds aren't preferred by someone, I found another great underwater sound source on the 1st disc menu for the seaquest tv series.. it's a looping underwater sound effect.
Course now I want a 39" seaquest....
You could try here
http://www.gmkmg.com/module_record.htm
AJ-1701 06-01-2008, 08:21 PM http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/2044/sounds/voyagesounds.htm
Gareee try this is a link I found for sounds and themes. I was ablle to down load them on my pc all I need to do is work out how to down load them as looped :freak: and then get a cheap little mp3 player with add on speakers.
I forgot to say that the clear blister packaging I used turned out A1 for replacement windows :thumbsup:
bert model maker 06-01-2008, 10:21 PM http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/2044/sounds/voyagesounds.htm
Gareee try this is a link I found for sounds and themes. I was ablle to down load them on my pc all I need to do is work out how to down load them as looped :freak: and then get a cheap little mp3 player with add on speakers.
I forgot to say that the clear blister packaging I used turned out A1 for replacement windows :thumbsup:
what blister packaging did you use and what modifications if any did you do to it ?
gareee 06-01-2008, 10:34 PM You could try here
http://www.gmkmg.com/module_record.htm
Cheaper to just pick up those walmart clearance goodies.. ;)
AJ-1701 06-01-2008, 11:10 PM what blister packaging did you use and what modifications if any did you do to it ?
I think it was from the back of the adapter package I bought. I used the origional clear piece to get the shape. then I just trimmed and used my wifes hair dryer to get it into a better fit. then I just polised and polised and polished it with the special cleaning cloth that came with her perscription glasses ( she was out shopping when I used it :p ).
bert model maker 06-01-2008, 11:13 PM what adaptor package ?
AJ-1701 06-02-2008, 01:03 AM Sorry... The adaptor I bought to run the lights with. It was in really good nick with virtually no skuffs and scratches.
newbie dooby 06-02-2008, 01:32 AM Can this model be made into the 2 deck window version?
bert model maker 06-02-2008, 06:05 AM thanks, I still wish the kits own glass was clearer.
gareee 06-02-2008, 09:59 AM It should be pretty easy to take any flat clear packaging and cut new windows though. I don't think this is something that Moebius could have forseen.
starseeker 06-02-2008, 02:59 PM The nose above the fins was the same on both versions. The window position was changed of course, the sonar blisters added, and the centre ridge between the windows was added. The main spotlight was larger on the 4 window version.
What seems to change the top profile so much is the different length and shape of the deck.
The bottom of the nose is very different. Altho is sounds like if you want an accurate 4 window version, some surgery and reshaping will be necessary there anyway. Basically you want to get rid of the FS bulge and just continue the round hull and keel as far forward as you can and then putty it in toward the searchlight. You'd have to make a few layers of styrene (or wood) underneath to support the putty. It's a small model, so that much re-contouring wouldn't be much work. More complicated is the bottom of the fins. The fins are somewhat thinner than the 4 window version. But they too are mostly flat surfaces running fore and aft. It shouldn't be difficult to cut out the bottoms and run a lip of styrene around the cutout, fillet in a base of styrene and either layer more styrene over top or use a good putty like Bondo.
The Moebius kit already has the right shape sail for the 8 window version (tho many comment that it's not quite the right size).
At least some of the miniatures had bottom color on the sail plane bottoms.
beatlepaul 06-02-2008, 03:26 PM Personally, I am waiting for Rick Teskey's 8 window conversion kit to come along.
Pretty much anything can be done in Scale Modeling if you have the Ideas, Reference material supplies etc...But I wouldnt simplify doing a conversion on the Present Bow...
I pick and choose my Modeling battles:thumbsup:
However if you choose to do it, God Bless!!
Regards,
BP
Seaview 06-02-2008, 05:18 PM ...The Moebius kit already has the right shape sail for the 8 window version (tho many comment that it's not quite the right size).
I'm squarely in the camp that says it isn't the right size. The sail of the 8-window version had a wider fore section, which included 4 front-facing windows. The sail for the 4-window version is too narrow in the front to add those.
I'm also waiting for the Richard Teskey conversion kit to come out, although it probably won't be for a while yet. :o
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