hey all: Just want to know why only novak and lrp esp are allowed at most oval events and not tekin which a number of top oval drivers have as a sponsor? Thanks :thumbsup:

If you read back through the archives you will find it all - I think most is in the BRL threads

down here in FL we are taking a step towards ending all that BS. Right now in the 10.5 class the speedo's are open.

hey all: Just want to know why only novak and lrp esp are allowed at most oval events and not tekin which a number of top oval drivers have as a sponsor? Thanks :thumbsup:

It's only been out for like a week. Give it some time.

Didn't Jflack use the new Tekin RS at the ROAR Carpet Nats?

I think ROAR has an open policy about ESC's. It is the motors that have to be approved.

Too many variables with ESC's on burshless. You can really change the performance with a different speedo on these BL motors. Novak and LRP are already established and approved. Novak was the innovator bringing the sensored BL to market for racers.

IMO Tekin screwed too many people in the past. I lost $600 of repaired speedos and never got them back when they closed. Tekin can just make stuff for the backyard bashers and just stay out of racing.

Too many variables with ESC's on burshless. You can really change the performance with a different speedo on these BL motors.

Wouldn't that be the point?

Just like Brushed ESCs developing ICE drive, power regen, Punch control, motor mapping, adjustible drive and break freq, one-touch setups, ect ect ect that is what made racing what it is today!

Don't close the box and say what we have today is good enough for tommorow. Racing is about pushing the limits, and the ESC is how racers push the limits of the motors.

Motors on the otherhand are bound by physical limitations declared in the rules. Majority of the limits a motor can be pushed has already been met.

Racers that want to close the box on technology need to take up racing with silver can motors, wire-wound resistor controllers, stick packs, and raidos that the only adjustmnet that can be made is servo centering.

The new owner of the equipment being sold under the Tekin brand name has nothing to do with the previous owners. To blame them is blaming the wrong person.

The point is not to put the ESC as a tuning tool. Brushless is a different animal that the brushed. It would be like allowing any 27 turn motor in the old days. Keep the ESC close and that would be fine. Tekin is trying to make the car perform better just like LRP was by messing with the timing. Once we found out what LRP was doing it was fine.Tekin is only being asked about because somebody has either found it faster than the others. The same thing happened when everybody was asking about LRP speedos when they were not allowed at first. The rules are fine now.

If I had to choose than LRP would be gone from brushless too. LRP has not honored ANY warranty issues with serveral of speedos. DOA right out of the box Quantum's Q2 and Sphere's. I had to throw them out.

Tekin is still Tekin to me sorry!

It's only been out for like a week. Give it some time.

There's some solid comedy, yet truth, to your statement, Tommy!

The point is not to put the ESC as a tuning tool. Brushless is a different animal that the brushed. It would be like allowing any 27 turn motor in the old days. Keep the ESC close and that would be fine. Tekin is trying to make the car perform better just like LRP was by messing with the timing. Once we found out what LRP was doing it was fine.Tekin is only being asked about because somebody has either found it faster than the others. The same thing happened when everybody was asking about LRP speedos when they were not allowed at first. The rules are fine now.

If I had to choose than LRP would be gone from brushless too. LRP has not honored ANY warranty issues with serveral of speedos. DOA right out of the box Quantum's Q2 and Sphere's. I had to throw them out.

Tekin is still Tekin to me sorry!

Help me out here... what exactly do you mean by... "Once we found out what LRP was doing it was fine." ??

I've heard the gearing is different between the Sphere and the GTB -- anything to that ? By how much is it different ??

Thx.

As most have found, timing on brushless does nothing more then require a gear change. It does not make the motor faster. Having the timing adjustable in the ESC means people don't have to tear apart the motor to do the same thing and means no tech headaches for that issue.

Help me out here... what exactly do you mean by... "Once we found out what LRP was doing it was fine." ??

I've heard the gearing is different between the Sphere and the GTB -- anything to that ? By how much is it different ??

Thx.

LRP has more timing.

I run both LRP and GTB's. (A sphere and a sphere comp 06)

For the 21.5/LIPO and 17.5/LIPO classes I don't see any real difference in performance, but I do see a difference in ratios to get the same speeds. I usually run the LRP's 2 - 3 teeth LOWER than the GTBs.

I'm still playing, but I'm happy with all 3 performance wise...and once I learned HOW to SET UP the LRPs, they are just as easy as the GTB's (I struggled for a while with the COMP trying to get it OUT of LIPO Mode when I was still running 4 cell classes)

Thanks for that info !