Hey guys, I am currently running on a flat 145' Indoor carpet oval that I would consider high bite. The problem I am having Is that the car Is scrubbing a lot of speed off In the corners. I have set the car up loose, tight, and nuetral. I have also tried every compound of tires. THE CAR HANDLES GREAT BUT JUST SEEMS TO BE TOO INTO THE TRACK!!! I guess the only thing I haven't played with Is traction compound. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated..


-The car Is a KSG Gen 2 with a 10.5 brushless, and Zip Grip Free for compound.
-Tire compunds are RF=Double Purple, RR=White, LF=Pearl White, LR=Pearl white

Thanks,
Daniel

what tires are you running?

Is this an outdoor or indoor oval? Being it is summer I will take a shot with outdoors. Try Trinity Red Dot for tire compound. Lots of bite.
For tires you will want to stay in the Pink, Double pink, purple area.

Sorry guys, I guess I left out some Important factors!!
I edited the thread to answer your ?s. Thanks for the replies.

Daniel

what front springs are on the car?
what side springs?
what center spring?
are you running off set off set? where is the t-pLATE LOCATED?

WHAT SHOCK OILS?
what body?
what rear wing?
what size rear spoiler?

is the left rear sucked into the rear pod?
how much is the RR tire spaced out?
does the track allow for jack the gripper or paragon?
what size did you tru the tires down to?
how many runs on the tires?
do you clean the tires after every run?
what is the current track record in your class and what is a realy good lap time?
what is your best run and what is your best lap time?
is your fastest lap the first few laps? or is it later in the run?
you left out all the information....

hello i have a ksg gen 2 with a blue body and it is tight in the corners...can you guys fix it for me? LOL

Here Is the basics, I just didn't want the thread to be real long, because most would not read It.

ALL SHOCKS AND SPRINGS ARE ASSOCIATED
-RF spring= Green, .020 shim
-LF spring= Red, .020 shim
-Center shock= Black spring 60W, position 4, chassis pos 2 and 3
-RR shock= Gold spring 40W, position 3
-LR shock= Red spring 40W, position 3
-Center T-plate, Pod offset to left
-08 protoform charger body
-BRP single stack wing
-no rear spoiler
-Right rear shims .020
-Left rear shime .060
-Battery Tray location .515
-Long wheelbase LF=+.35 lead
-LF locator= 0
-RF locator= 0
-LF camber= +2
-FR camber= -2.10
-RF A-arm location= 3
-LF A-arm location= 1
-Rear ride height=2
-Clean tires after every run
-Track fastest lap= 4.2, mine Is 4.4 at the beginning of a run
-Tire size varies between 2.10 and 2.14 all four corners matching
-short left rear hub
-long right rear hub
-We can run any tire compound with out a strong oder.

WOW, I hope this about covers It.... Need any more info just let me know and thank again..

What brand are the springs and what T-Plate are you running?

If that is the soft associated black center spring that is way too soft.

Run a spoiler. 3/4"

Try moving the LF out. A lot of people ran 2 out on the LF and 1 out on the RF.

Your tire compounds are a bit strange. While you'll see some guys running 3 naturals (pink, purple etc) and an exotic (white, grey, black etc.) on the RF you don't see many doing it the opposite like you are.

Try a Black or a Grey/Silver RF.

There are some good baseline setups on ksg's website. (ksgmotorsports.com) uprollyknewthattho

hello i have a ksg gen 2 with a blue body and it is tight in the corners...can you guys fix it for me? LOLKatf1sh- Paint the body red & try again!! LOL
-George

I know this is going to sound wierd coming from an HD guy but I do have a setup you can try. (I ran KSG before I switched)

CHASSIS STUFF
Tray Position - .400 from rear pod

RF
King Pin - Long
Spring - Associated .018
Spring Cups - Windtunnel
Preload Shims - zero preload
Axle - Finishline
Shims behind axle - 0
Caster Block - KSG
Caster Block Hole - Bottom Hole
Caster setting - 3 degrees
Locator - 0
Arm Spacing - na
Long/Short Wheelbase - long w/.050 set back
Camber - 1 degree negative
Tire - Team Purple
Tire OD 2.20

LF
King Pin - Long
Spring - Assoc .020
Spring Cups -Windtunnel
Preload Shims - zero preload about .020 droop
Axle - Finishline
Shims behind axle - .010
Caster Block - KSG
Caster Block Hole - 1 hole from top
Caster setting - 1 degrees
Locator - #1
Arm Spacing - na
Long/Short Wheelbase - long
Camber - 2 degrees positive
Tire - Pink
Tire OD - 2.20

CENTER SHOCK
Shock - assoc
Spring - 7 lb silva copper
Oil - 70 wt
Piston - #2
Length - about .090 droop in pod with shock in forward mounting holes
Shock Mount Hole - 2nd hole from top
Chassis Mount Hole - forward

RR
Shock - associated
Spring - Associated red
Oil - 30 wt.
Side shock ear mounting hole - 1 hole down
Ball Cups - med rpm
Ball Cup Shims - na
Tire - Pink
Tire OD - 2.19

LR
Shock - associated
Spring - Associated gold
Oil - 30 wt.
Side shock ear mounting hole - 1 hole down
Ball Cups - med rpm
Ball Cup Shims - na
Tire - Pink
Tire OD - 2.20

REAR AXLE/POD
Spur - 116
RR Hub - Narrow
LR Hub - Wide
Axle Carriers - IRS 2 axle down
RR Shims - .040
LR Shims - LR tire tight to pod
T-plate - KSG Traction T-bar (Offset A-symmetrical)
2 or 3 screws - 2 screws
t-plate shims - .020 under front pivot
t-plate position - offset
pod position - offset
Rear Steer slugs - 0 degree, or 1/2 (personal feel) if need to free up off corner add rear steer
Long Wheelbase with .050 back on RF

This was my 19t setup for a similar track, tires are BSR, Protoform T-HD body mounted .030 fwd, rear spoiler .5 in total (including molded in one), Muddslide Super Tan Wing mounted on body low to rear deck slightly forward of rear window bottom mold lines. If the car is too tight move the wing fwd in small increments. If the tires still cause issues try a Gray/Silver (70/30)RF, White LF, White RR, Pearl White LR

I hope this works for you,
Bud Denning