Howdy all.

I thought I would start this thread of the Build Up of my Moebius Seaview, so we can share Build Up Techniques and Ideas.

First, let me say a Big Thanks to Frank at Moebius for this Fantastic Kit:thumbsup:

Ok, I elected to build her up as what she is, a Replica of the beautifull 17'2" Sub. So I chose the Viewports WITHOUT the framing and the 20 Missle Hatches.

In these first pics, I have drilled out all the limber holes (using a Dremal with a 1/16 drill bit, and putting two to four pilot holes depending on the size of the Limber hole)

I also have started the Sanding/Priming/Sanding...Of the area where the two hull parts meet and the Main Viewport. For this model,Putty is overkill(IMHO), So I used the ol' Gap filling glue and baking soda technique.

It's making the seams dissappear, but I still need to do more.

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6996/seaviewbuild10001qp5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

It already looks fabulous!

Huzz

did'nt hamlet say:

to build with the interior or not to build with the interior, that is the question?
tis nobler to find out whats the best way to show the interior if that is the plan!

did'nt hamlet say:

to build with the interior or not to build with the interior, that is the question?
tis nobler to find out whats the best way to show the interior if that is the plan!


I am building the Interior. In fact I have already started it. With some custom additions of my own.

BP

Too much time on your hands!!Great build.Alexander

Wow!It already looks awesome,even unfinished.I think that the Seaview is a great ship to display.Any of you guys will put it in your living rooms when you finish your own.:thumbsup:

Looking good!

Thank you gentlemen!

But it's just the begining.

Regards,
BP

Are you going to get the light kit?

so you are not going to wait for a decal set or a lighting kit yet to be sold?

so you are not going to wait for a decal set or a lighting kit yet to be sold?

Decals? For what?

Howdy all.

I thought I would start this thread of the Build Up of my Moebius Seaview, so we can share Build Up Techniques and Ideas.

First, let me say a Big Thanks to Frank at Moebius for this Fantastic Kit:thumbsup:

Ok, I elected to build her up as what she is, a Replica of the beautifull 17'2" Sub. So I chose the Viewports WITHOUT the framing and the 20 Missle Hatches.

In these first pics, I have drilled out all the limber holes (using a Dremal with a 1/16 drill bit, and putting two to four pilot holes depending on the size of the Limber hole)

I also have started the Sanding/Priming/Sanding...Of the area where the two hull parts meet and the Main Viewport. For this model,Putty is overkill(IMHO), So I used the ol' Gap filling glue and baking soda technique.

It's making the seams dissappear, but I still need to do more.

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6996/seaviewbuild10001qp5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
You know that color is almost if not dead on.

Actually the color needs to be darkened quite a bit. I am talking to the guys who actually have worked on or seen the effects Miniature. The color is somewhat elusive.
It's NOT the color recommended in the Instructions.
Yes I am going to light It Up with my own Lighting system, and I don't really need the decals.

Regards,
BP:):):)

Are you going to get the light kit?


Yes Sir I am!!!!!:thumbsup:

decals for the interior! someone will be making a set!

thats what i mean, i'd like to build mine but as soon as i finish, someone will come out with some great aftermarket stuff!!!!!!!!

decals for the interior! someone will be making a set!

thats what i mean, i'd like to build mine but as soon as i finish, someone will come out with some great aftermarket stuff!!!!!!!!

Actually, the kit has almost everything . The other Stuff I can scratch Build.
The little Flying sub...Now I am waiting for the aftermarket kits for that!!!

BP

Yes I agree the color is almost there!!

It's NOT the color recommended in the Instructions.
Yes I am going to light It Up with my own Lighting system, and I don't really need the decals.

Regards,
BP:):):)

I haven't been this pumped about a model since the release of the TOS Enterprise in the 60's.

Go BeatlePaul GO !!!!!!

SCHWEEEEET!
- GJS

Please elaborate...baking soda and gap filling glue?

Please elaborate...baking soda and gap filling glue?

Applying thick formula ("gap-filling") super glue to a seam, then hitting it with a little baking soda, causes a reaction that cures the glue instantly, ready for sanding... which you had better do, as that stuff turns harder than styrene within an hour.

to main thing s i was worring about be4 i bought one of these was the seem between front and rear hulls and the viewport. wadda you think> hard to deal with so the hull is smooth?

to main thing s i was worring about be4 i bought one of these was the seem between front and rear hulls and the viewport. wadda you think> hard to deal with so the hull is smooth?


Again, I used gap Filling Superglue and Bakng Soda.

For me it has been working like a charm:thumbsup:

Oh, I joined the two hull Parts(Bow to the stern) With JB Weld to insure a permanent Bond.

decals for the interior! someone will be making a set! thats what i mean, i'd like to build mine but as soon as i finish, someone will come out with some great aftermarket stuff!!!!!!!!

You mean like THIS (http://modeling.paragrafix.com/Pages/Seaview/default.asp)?
Actually, the kit has almost everything . The other Stuff I can scratch Build.
The little Flying sub...Now I am waiting for the aftermarket kits for that!!!

Or THIS (http://modeling.paragrafix.com/Pages/FlyingSub/default.asp)?

:wave:

Applying thick formula ("gap-filling") super glue to a seam, then hitting it with a little baking soda, causes a reaction that cures the glue instantly, ready for sanding... which you had better do, as that stuff turns harder than styrene within an hour.

Thanks! I'll give it a try. Still waiting for the lighting kit and the FS-1
interior! Can't wait. Any younger modelers not aquainted with "Voyage"
picking up this kit just cuz it looks cool??

Applying thick formula ("gap-filling") super glue to a seam, then hitting it with a little baking soda, causes a reaction that cures the glue instantly, ready for sanding... which you had better do, as that stuff turns harder than styrene within an hour.

An hour!?.....I thought it was that hard after 1/2 a second?
Folks....this trick is da bomb! I couldn't build without it....especialy when working with resin kits :rolleyes:.

You can also use this technique for very fast setting super re-inforced glue welds where you have room, and where it will not be seen. This technique allows the builder to keep on truckin like nutz!

The area where you need to be cautious is that this stuff is harder than the resin or styrene so sand down the majority of the glue/soda first then carefully the rest......if not you can find yourself sanding away too much area and not the weld.

LOOKING GOOD DUDE!! :thumbsup: :woohoo:

Those decals do look pretty groovy.

Is this the lighting kit that will be offered by Space Circuits through Fuzznoggin creations or Strange Stuff Studios?

I still want my 8-windows... but I gotta admit the flush/frameless 4-windows look darned nice! Fox

Again, I used gap Filling Superglue and Bakng Soda.

For me ithas been working like a charm:thumbsup:

Oh, I joined the two hull Parts(Bow to the stern) With JB Weld to insure a permanent Bond.

JB Weld is the mother of all bonding.:thumbsup:

Hello All, I jusr got an e-mail from Randy with VooDooFX. Seaview lighting system is in the works!!
From: randy neubert [mailto:fxshop@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 5:44 PM
To: Mike Maglapit
Subject: Re: Moebius Seaview Lighting Kit

Hello Mike,

We are working with Moebius Models on the Seaview lighting kit project. I have the third test model and have worked out a good clean lighting system for the model kit, just waiting for the kits to star coming out.

Thanks for the email, call me if you have nay questions 650-568-3400

Randy Neubert
VoodooFX
3312 Hoover Street
Redwood City, Ca 94063
650-568-3400

Moebius Seaview Lighting Kit
To: fxshop@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, May 1, 2008, 7:12 AM
Good morning,

Are there any plans to produce a lighting kit for the Moebius Seaview?

Thanks

Mike Maglapit
Desktop Support Tech
7157 Florida Blvd.
Baton Rouge, LA 70806

I will do a lighting kit. I hope the bulbs are small enough that they can be replaced by sliding then in and out of the provided shaft for lighting. The lower flying sub bay can be snapped into place so those bulbs can be replaced no problem. Fiberoptic would work great on the fins.

Here is a seamless Seaview.

Using the Super Glue/Baking soda method, I have made the Hull one smmooth Surface.

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/509/medium/SEAVIEWBUILD20001.JPG (javascript:;)

Another view from the side.....Also I have started to put the pics in my Photo album for you guys to really check out:thumbsup::thumbsup:

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/509/medium/SEAVIEWBUILD20002.JPG (javascript:;)

:thumbsup: Excellent workmanship as always, "Mr. McCartney"! Very inspiring, and I can hardly wait to sink my teeth into building the thing, instead of just having to focus on the prep work for now.
All I'm waiting on is Just An Illusion for the interior decals, and VooDooFX for the lighting kit, and a Teskey 8-window bow section for my second Seaview. :dude:

Are the girders behind the window braces suppose to touch each other? I glued the control room onto the flying sub bay where the tabs are and the window braces are away from the girters. I always thought the braces were supports for the windows and thus had to contact each other. Am I wrong?

:thumbsup: Excellent workmanship as always, "Mr. McCartney"! Very inspiring, and I can hardly wait to sink my teeth into building the thing, instead of just having to focus on the prep work for now.
All I'm waiting on is Just An Illusion for the interior decals, and VooDooFX for the lighting kit, and a Teskey 8-window bow section for my second Seaview. :dude:

Hello Seaview,

What I want you to know is that Paul from ParaGrafix Modeling Systems and myself Just an illusion have gotten together for a full lighting system with decals!

The lighting system has been ready for while now. This is from bow to stern light system including interior. the test piece that I had was useful but we needed to wait for the production for final tweaking.

The control panels are cast pieces that are set up for back lighting with Paul's decals for the enhancement.

We are hoping to have everything including ParaGrafix's photo-etch for the Flying Sub by the end of next week.

Gil Henandez

www.justanillusion.biz

Hello Seaview,

What I want you to know is that Paul from ParaGrafix Modeling Systems and myself Just an illusion have gotten together for a full lighting system with decals!

The lighting system has been ready for while now. This is from bow to stern light system including interior. the test piece that I had was useful but we needed to wait for the production for final tweaking.

The control panels are cast pieces that are set up for back lighting with Paul's decals for the enhancement.

We are hoping to have everything including ParaGrafix's photo-etch for the Flying Sub by the end of next week.

Gil Henandez

www.justanillusion.biz (http://www.justanillusion.biz)

If this is up to par with the rest of your stuff then we're in for a treat.:thumbsup: Do you know where the on/off switch will be?

............... I have drilled out all the limber holes (using a Dremal with a 1/16 drill bit, and putting two to four pilot holes depending on the size of the Limber hole)

I haven't gotten mine yet. I must be way down the list.

Not being up on all the Navy terms, What are limber holes? Are they those group of holes running down the sides fore and aft or is it bow and stern? :confused:

Why would you want to drill them out? Aren't they deep enough?

Not being up on all the Navy terms, What are limber holes? Are they those group of holes running down the sides fore and aft or is it bow and stern? :confused:

Why would you want to drill them out? Aren't they deep enough?Drilling out the holes isn't strictly necessary, but it adds close-up realism. I refer you to the "Anyone building their Seaview yet?" thread, specifically posts 61 thru 64 (top of page 5).

Moderator: Would it be possible to consolidate the three main Moebius Seaview threads into a single thread titled "Building the Moebius Seaview"? Would make for a lot less confusion and back-and-forth switching.

How can they be deep enough when they're supposed to be holes? :D

I find it easier to grind them out from behind, btw, than to drill them from the outside:

How can they be deep enough when they're supposed to be holes? :D

I find it easier to grind them out from behind, btw, than to drill them from the outside:

I did that on a Type VII Uboat and the plastic became paper thin. If you don't watch it you'll burn clear through.

I did that on a Type VII Uboat and the plastic became paper thin. If you don't watch it you'll burn clear through.


I mentioned on Hyperscale the holes are backed by only thin pastic so if you did want to cut (or sand ) them out it should be pretty easy.

Yer making me want to start mine NOW! ;)

I'm waffling on waiting for the interior upgrade kit of not.

so do you have to glue the clear window panes into the nose section before you glue the nose section together?

I will do a lighting kit. I hope the bulbs are small enough that they can be replaced by sliding then in and out of the provided shaft for lighting. The lower flying sub bay can be snapped into place so those bulbs can be replaced no problem. Fiberoptic would work great on the fins.

REPLACED????!!.....Are you using LED's??....LED's with the proper resistors will NEVER need to be REPLACED.

I sure hope that VODOO EFFECTS is using 20th century methods by now.

REPLACED????!!.....Are you using LED's??....LED's with the proper resistors will NEVER need to be REPLACED.

I sure hope that VODOO EFFECTS is using 20th century methods by now.Especially since this is the 21st century!

HA! I meant to say "AT LEAST using....."
Look for this guys work also coming....if he can do what he did for PL Jupiter II seen in the video links below.... he also has plans for the LIS POD and Seaview!

He's a local dude and his work is called called Space Circuits and he sales through Fuzznoggin' Creations and Strange Stuff Studios.

http://www.fuzznoggincreations.com/core.htm

http://www.strangestuffstudio.com/

The pic shows him with a PL Enterprise....and that is all LED's! no tubes or panels! He has also released a lighting kit for PL 1/350 refit.

I did that on a Type VII Uboat and the plastic became paper thin. If you don't watch it you'll burn clear through.

Look how deep the limber holes molded.
You grind down (carefully) to juuuuust as you're about to break thru the holes, leaving a paper thickness, then clean them out with an X-Acto and file. The resulting plastic thickness equals the depth they were molded in, PLUS about a paper's thickness. Considering it was extra thick in that area to start with, you're still left with almost as much thickness as the main parts of, say, a 1/72 airplane model.

First Lighting Tests.

Everything is pretty much all wired together. The Tail fins and Sail Light will also Function....

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3603/seaviewbuild30001wh5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9600/seaviewbuild30002oh3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3065/seaviewbuild30003vx4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

There are no white LED's? I away's see folks use blue. Man that was a fast buildup!

There are no white LED's? I away's see folks use blue. Man that was a fast buildup!


No Sir , They are White LEDS. It's just the nature of the photo. Also the gloss blue floor is reflecting.I actually Like Regular Lamps, Mini Bulbs for a project like this, It would give it a nice Yellowish Look.

But they eventually burn out and are therefore Immpractical. The Build up is Still a while to actually complete. I just wanted an idea how the lighted Nose/Interior/etc.. Looked.


Regards,
BP