That's okay, I won't visit this site any more after this. The attached is the standard shot of the Seaview on the surface in every second episode. There is also the well-seen photo of the stbd side as David Merriman is refurbishing, the one with the coffee cup on the deck, in which the front holes are clearly visible and the back are clearly not there, tho on the port side of the finished 17', they are there. Maybe Mr. Merriman can shed some light.

Edit: But it would be churlish of me to go without thanking all the people in these forums who have shared such amazing information and enthusiasm and inspiration. Great, wonderful resources so many of you are. My own projects are so much the better for what I've found here. I hope some of you do get your own sites up and running. Be great to see all the stuff that you have.

Modelers: Have Fun!!!

That's okay, I won't visit this site any more after this. The attached is the standard shot of the Seaview on the surface in every second episode. There is also the well-seen photo of the stbd side as David Merriman is refurbishing, the one with the coffee cup on the deck, in which the front holes are clearly visible and the back are clearly not there, tho on the port side of the finished 17', they are there. Maybe Mr. Merriman can shed some light.

Edit: But it would be churlish of me to go without thanking all the people in these forums who have shared such amazing information and enthusiasm and inspiration. Great, wonderful resources so many of you are. My own projects are so much the better for what I've found here. I hope some of you do get your own sites up and running. Be great to see all the stuff that you have.

Modelers: Have Fun!!!


I sincerely hope you DO continue to visit this site and add to the excitement Of Building these Beautiful Kits:thumbsup:


High Regards,
Beatlepaul

That's okay, I won't visit this site any more after this. The attached is the standard shot of the Seaview on the surface in every second episode. There is also the well-seen photo of the stbd side as David Merriman is refurbishing, the one with the coffee cup on the deck, in which the front holes are clearly visible and the back are clearly not there, tho on the port side of the finished 17', they are there. Maybe Mr. Merriman can shed some light.

Edit: But it would be churlish of me to go without thanking all the people in these forums who have shared such amazing information and enthusiasm and inspiration. Great, wonderful resources so many of you are. My own projects are so much the better for what I've found here. I hope some of you do get your own sites up and running. Be great to see all the stuff that you have.

Modelers: Have Fun!!!

Hi starseeker, I for one enjoy reading your posts and seeing all that you contribute to the group.:thumbsup: Let the sour grapes just roll off your
back...... Keep on posting.....:wave:

That's okay, I won't visit this site any more after this.
I'm sorry if it's something I wrote that's causing this.

On the limber holes question - let's just agree to disagree.

I'm thinking this is like arguing about the exact layout of the interior: different episodes show things differently ... heck, within the same episode things are shown differently! (The video screen in the observation lounge comes to mind. Shot one it's a video screen, shot two it's two speaker grills, shot three it's ... well, you get the picture :freak: )

17' had no rear limber holes on the right side but did on left. Weird.

I asked Dave about the limber holes. His answer:

Beats me, kiddo.

David,

"It's only a model..."

It's not uncommon at all for miniatures to be constructed to be filmed on one side only; I believe the red and green rear fin lights on the Seaview were changed to white so footage could be "flopped" when necessary to get more mileage out of the same shot. Maybe the original plan was to film only the left side of the 17' miniature but as the series went on more angles were captured and the original plan went out the window.

What I appreciate about the photoetched limber holes is not that they achieve super accuracy, but that they make painting of these details so much easier.

and we all know about the "other" side of the Enterprise having no detailing t all. ... not uncommon at all for studios to skimp on details.

I've changed the angle of the Seaview windows by cutting a 'U' shape, slowly remove the excess plastic then glue and fill into place, hope you can make out by the poor pic what I mean! the corner of the window doesn't angle up I've just changed one so you can see the diffrence but it's very subtle, the thing Am also going to take some plastic off the bottom of the window part so they sit lower

ripkin6

Which side did you cut out this u shape? To me the Windows on the left look to be the correct shape I was looking to get but dont see what you cut to get that shape.

also anyone need clear windows to fit the kit. I have a few left over that I will not be using.. they have lite scratches but Im sure could be removed with tlc. PM me if intrested

solex227

Hi Solex227, yes the window on the left is the altered one (with the grey line of filler above it,I left the one on the right as it was, to show the difference) I cut right into the top corner of the window then to the edge of the part,then cut another line form where the window spar starts to the edge,then I removed the peice and trimed it down to change the angle then reglued it back into place, take your time with this operation as it has to be done by eye. This gives you a more correct frame without drastic remodeling, am also going to trim down the bottom of the part so the windows sit lower.