By the by, when are all the lighting kits suppose to be ready?

Cherry Hill NJ.....heck...I can just come over and see it in person for myself! I live right in the next town over from you! YIKES!!!!

MMM

BP, How much detailing of the interior do you have yet to do ?

BP, How much detailing of the interior do you have yet to do ?

I am doing some research on what the Exact coloring is. Then going from there.
I also Plan on Lighting up several display screens, add figures Etc...



BP.

so you haven't sealed your seaview up then ? I counted 8 figures in my parts bags when i opened mine, i didn't think there would be that many.

so you haven't sealed your seaview up then ? I counted 8 figures in my parts bags when i opened mine, i didn't think there would be that many.


I thought I counted 6 in my box? hummmm? in any case I wish I had a few more to look like I have a full crew in stead of a skeleton crew.

Can you show us the wiring, switch and bulbs you used? I hope it's not a state secret.

Sigh....

so you haven't sealed your seaview up then ? I counted 8 figures in my parts bags when i opened mine, i didn't think there would be that many.


That's correct Bert.
I have not sealed her up Yet. Getting info on exact colors and such...


BP

I thought I counted 6 in my box? hummmm? in any case I wish I had a few more to look like I have a full crew in stead of a skeleton crew.
I counted 6 then found 2 more loose in the bag.

That's correct Bert.
I have not sealed her up Yet. Getting info on exact colors and such...


BP
The painted interior will really stand out. I wonder what the upcoming decals (if any ) will be like ?

The painted interior will really stand out. I wonder what the upcoming decals (if any ) will be like ?

I have to say my interior is pretty much painted up. I used my dvds for reference.But want to double check on things.

I just wantto make sure of some things, and possibley replace somethings as well.

I counted 6 then found 2 more loose in the bag.

going home to check might be in bag, I didnt really pay attention
thanks

What a great build!!! :thumbsup:

It certainly provides insperation for doing mine albeit with my good but limited skills :o

I have to say my interior is pretty much painted up. I used my dvds for reference.But want to double check on things.

I just wantto make sure of some things, and possibley replace somethings as well.
BP, have you painted your wall panels yet or just the flooring deck ? You sure made quick work of getting it out of the box & looking good. I was looking at the color paint guide that came with the kit, but not sure how accurate they are. What are you going to do with your windows ? keep the ones that came with the kit, or, make new ones ? I keep reading about the "fish bowl " effect. Thats what happened with my PL J-2. I detailed the interior and coated the supplied window with a good dip in future and have a very clear window that gives a distortion view of the interior. I am not sure if it is the window itself OR, the future causing this. How bad IS the "fishbowl" effect with seaviews front window ?

BP, have you painted your wall panels yet or just the flooring deck ? You sure made quick work of getting it out of the box & looking good. I was looking at the color paint guide that came with the kit, but not sure how accurate they are. What are you going to do with your windows ? keep the ones that came with the kit, or, make new ones ? I keep reading about the "fish bowl " effect. Thats what happened with my PL J-2. I detailed the interior and coated the supplied window with a good dip in future and have a very clear window that gives a distortion view of the interior. I am not sure if it is the window itself OR, the future causing this. How bad IS the "fishbowl" effect with seaviews front window ?


Hi Bert.
Wow, GOOD questions there..... here goes......

Yes, I painted the control room panels based on my reference pics and the DVDS themselves. I just need to "tweak" a few things.
The color guide supplied with the kit should be regarded as a general guide, watch the DVDS, and take notes, thats what I did BEFORE the kit actually came out.

I am NOT keeping The view port windows That came with the Kit. The Fishbowl effect is bad..If you decide to light the boat. If you don't light the Sub I would use them..


BP

so you haven't sealed your seaview up then ? I counted 8 figures in my parts bags when i opened mine, i didn't think there would be that many.

There are supposed to be eight figures... six seated and two standing. I wish you got more. The Seaview itself has six seats, but I wanted two figures for the Flying Sub. Although once built NONE of the interior past the bulkhead is really visible. More standing figures would be nice. I think some N scale railroad figures would work ok. The kit figures aren't great, especailly the standing ones. I shaved down their feet and heads, and also the legs a bit as they have big bell-bottom pants. The big heads give them a Charlie Brown look.

In the FS you could use 1/144 scale figures, as the interior of the flying sub interior was bigger than its exterior, and 1/128 figures wouldn't have room to stand up inside a 1/128 flying sub. In a 1/24 scale flying sub exterior, the interior would be approx 1/28, from what I can figure. 1/144 figures would only be about 9% too small, and seated the difference probably wouldn't be noticeable at all. The interior maquette is in Bob Burns collection. There are other photos of it but this is the only one I have on computer. In the FS miniature, the vents or grills around the hatches extend quite deeply into the ship both top and bottom. In the maquette, note how high the ceiling is. at least 7' from floor to hatch. In order to model both the exterior and the interior in one model , you're looking at an almost Jupiter 2 size fudge factor. 1/144 should work, and the figures are bound to be better than the kit figures.

Another update gentlemen..

I lit up the mini Flying Sub that comes with the Kit.

I wanted the option of displaying the FS1 , In a varity of ways, by itself, in it's bay in Seaview Etc...so I came up with an Independent Lighting system for it.. With an interior based on the Real FS1 Miniature. I'll super detail the Moebius Larger Flying Sub when it arrives!!
It Operates by 3 mini Batteries an one white Led, which as I did with Seaview, Filtered and altered to give it the same look as the original Filming Miniature....

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9300/seaviewbuild100002ha1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1229/seaviewbuild100001km3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/3221/seaviewbuild100003ca4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Again, my goal was to replicate the look of the original Filming miniature.

It operates by pushing a button where the rear hatch is(I'll post more pics later). I have the sub able to almost snap shut,for easy battery replacement. However I did use some white glue around the edges.

I messed up my Flying sub and can't get the paint off the hull halves for a repaint (used Tamiya laquers) wahhhhhhhh

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9619/seaviewbuild110002hq0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

There you go!alexander

There you go!alexander

Again, Many thanks for allowing me to Bounce the Ideas off you Sir, And Thanks for you help:thumbsup::thumbsup:

When I worked it all out It really looked sweet:woohoo:



BP

Thanks BeatlePaul. Now to try and fiqure out what will BE the best replacement glass. How much detail can you see inside yours when you look through the front ? How much if any,will be out of sight when looking in ? Nothing like detailing something so good you want to show it off then, no one can even see that part, now THAT is frustrating. When I do mine, I plan on displaying the F/S just leaving the F/S bay ( or just returning ) depending on scheduling. HA HA. how about you ?

It does look sweet Bro. Very nice work.
Lenmon

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4439/seaviewbuild130002bp1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/3702/seaviewbuild130001rx2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

FANTASTIC:thumbsup:
Mcdee

The buildups of the Seaview are amazing!! I am so intimidated with the interiors and painting that huge hull, that I don't know if I will buy one of these. I pretty much a figure modeler.

I'm pretty much a figure modeler too but I love looking at this stuff. You vehicular-type guys are amazing! A little obsessive - but that's probably why you're amazing.:thumbsup:

Fantastic job! The lighting really makes it come alive.

Sean

Vehicular modeling involves a lot more drudgery from my perspective--endless sanding, filling and masking, which is an affront to my laziness. Although I imagine painting a realistic face on a human figure model would be just as tough--my figure models have mostly been monsters and dinosaurs and they're very therapeutic after doing spaceships and submarines...

Just think of the Seaview as a dirty big diorama base for some teeny weeny figure models of Admiral Nelson et al.

Huzz

Just think of the Seaview as a dirty big diorama base for some teeny weeny figure models of Admiral Nelson et al.

Huzz


:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: :thumbsup::thumbsup:



BP

BeatlePaul, let me say this, OUTSTANDING !!!!! now THATS what I am talking about.
Bert

I'm pretty much a figure modeler too but I love looking at this stuff. You vehicular-type guys are amazing! A little obsessive - but that's probably why you're amazing.:thumbsup:

I tend to get a bit caught up in any model, figure or minature I do. maybe thats why it took me 1 month to paint up a squad of WH 40 minatures :p I did the AMT's Emporer Palpatine whilst waiting for my seaview one nite to cut,glue and paint the body but it still took me over 2 nites to get the face and hands the way I wanted them :rolleyes:

I have to admit that this version of the Seaview would be the biggest vehical kit I,ve ever done....:rolleyes: And loving it :woohoo:

I messed up my Flying sub and can't get the paint off the hull halves for a repaint (used Tamiya laquers) wahhhhhhhh

see if you can find a product called scale coat paint remover. You can find it in the train section of the hobby shop or ask .. it wont harm the plastic and it can remove stuborn chrome even. I am pretty sure it will remove the tamiya paint/laquer also. too bad you didnt use good old brake fluid. Brake fluid also can remove tamiya laquers also but you have to dip the part with in a 2 hours any longer and your stuck like chuck with a mess.:freak:

Two Pics of the interior...

First apologies for the quality of the pics, as I am still trying to master the "art" Of Miniature Photography(LOL)!!
Second, I have replaced the Kit supplied Window glass with Crystal Clear Viewports supplied by our very own Capt Kirk(Thanks again George!!!).

My Friends, WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!
In The pics you can see(I hope) I also used other figures than the ones supplied with the kit...

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9504/seaviewinteriorshots000pc8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7528/seaviewinteriorshots000zj8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

looks good ! what size fiqures did you use ? what does your staircase look like ? i hear some saying they are going to remove the handrailing, why, is it incorrect ? those crew fiqures bring the sub to life i can tell you that !

It may be just the pc I'm on but I can't see said pics...:confused:

looks good ! what size fiqures did you use ? what does your staircase look like ? i hear some saying they are going to remove the handrailing, why, is it incorrect ? those crew fiqures bring the sub to life i can tell you that !

The handrail on the control room set in the series didn't have a handrail on the outside. The rail was on the inside, spiraling around the center post, as seen here:

http://www.robertdowdell.com/VTTBOTS/TimeBomb6.jpg

OK, i see it now, thanks ! i guess the handrail can be snipped off simply enough.

OK, i see it now, thanks ! i guess the handrail can be snipped off simply enough.

Yep! Clipped it away from the part on my Seaview with a pair of sprue cutters. A little sanding stick work on the edge, and it looked good as new.

I bet it looks better

Beatlepaul... a "trick" on miniature focus.. find something a similar distance away to what you really want in focus. with digital cameras, they focus pressed half way down, and "take" pressed all the way down.

Rest your elbows on the table, or place the camera on some stacked books. You want as least juggle as possible.

Focus on the larger easy to focus object th eproper distance away, then turn the camera towards the seaview windows, and snap the pic. repeat 4 or 5 times. Odds are, one pic will really stand out properly.

Also, some digicams have a odder macro ability, you actually need to back up away from the subject a little, and then use the zoom on the camera to get in "tighter" yet still focus.

I took some killer close flower images today (they look like I was 1 inch away), yet I was standing up, 3 feet away, and was zoomed in on them.

It takes some practice, but once you get the hang of the focus trick, some pics are much easier to achieve.

I also found the testors red bottle at Michaels today (Still then new squarish shape with the pro modeler tip, right?) so that'll help seaview assembly. (That IS the old "orange tube topped" stuff, right?)

I think I'm going to experiment with a blue base coat, and then a darkish silver dust coat on top for hull color. I'll experiment on cardboard first. That way I can still get a slightly blueish color, but still get a closer "model" color as well.. a compromise between the two.

Yep! Clipped it away from the part on my Seaview with a pair of sprue cutters. A little sanding stick work on the edge, and it looked good as new.

Gentlemen, the Handrails ARE ON THE STAIRWAY. They show up in the third season..

So leaving them is correct and Clipping them off is correct, Depends on which season you want:thumbsup:

Beatlepaul... a "trick" on miniature focus.. find something a similar distance away to what you really want in focus. with digital cameras, they focus pressed half way down, and "take" pressed all the way down.

Rest your elbows on the table, or place the camera on some stacked books. You want as least juggle as possible.

Focus on the larger easy to focus object th eproper distance away, then turn the camera towards the seaview windows, and snap the pic. repeat 4 or 5 times. Odds are, one pic will really stand out properly.

Also, some digicams have a odder macro ability, you actually need to back up away from the subject a little, and then use the zoom on the camera to get in "tighter" yet still focus.

I took some killer close flower images today (they look like I was 1 inch away), yet I was standing up, 3 feet away, and was zoomed in on them.

It takes some practice, but once you get the hang of the focus trick, some pics are much easier to achieve.

I also found the testors red bottle at Michaels today (Still then new squarish shape with the pro modeler tip, right?) so that'll help seaview assembly. (That IS the old "orange tube topped" stuff, right?)

I think I'm going to experiment with a blue base coat, and then a darkish silver dust coat on top for hull color. I'll experiment on cardboard first. That way I can still get a slightly blueish color, but still get a closer "model" color as well.. a compromise between the two.


Thanks for the Tip:thumbsup:

I'll have to give it a try.

Thanks BP for the headsup on the handrail for the 3rd season !
Bert

The handrail had been on the inside since the movie. Imagine my surprise when doing my research for the upcoming Seaview when I came across a pic showing an outside handrail. I wasn't aware when it was added. Since it wasn't added until the 3rd season, I guess either way would be ok.

Rogue

I always seem to like the third or last season of shows with respect to models. The 3rd season Jupiter 2 for example, was the most colorful and had all of the add ons in the ship. That way, I know i will leave nothing out. This seaview is a dream come true with it's size and details. I can just imagine what a Moebius Jupiter 2 will look like and I would be the first in line to get it. Moebius sure has come through for us modelers I can tell you that !

As much as I've always loved the Seaview, Flying Sub and Jupiter 2, I've always felt a special affinity for the Spindrift, and I hope that there are plans for those three IA vehicles getting exactly the same wonderful treatment as the Seaview got (and the Chariot and Space Pod are about to get) within the next couple of years. :thumbsup:

what did you use to assemble this monster, pro weld?