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MR-RMS
05-01-2008, 08:37 AM
I like to introduce to the RC world the RMS-1!

The RMS-1 is the next Tool the serious RC racer must have.

The RMS-1 is a 12.5mm rotor magnetic field indicator. The RMS-1 is unlike any other rotor checker on the market. The RMS-1 will AUTOMATICALLY align to the HIGHEST MAGNETIC field on the rotor that is being measured. The unit is simple and easy to use and will give the same measured reading every time. No more fussing around looking for the sweet spot-let the RMS-1 do it for you!

The Units are in production and will be available starting 5-7-08. I’ll be selling then online. The retail price will be $149.99.

Dealer and hobby store inquires welcome.

I look forward to answering any questions

For those racers that have already made an investment on the previous Gauss meter, I would like to offer you a new probe assembly for 12.3mm rotors. The new assembly uses the Rotor Measurement System of self alignment.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5641990736148752720&hl=en
The price is $39.99 plus shipping
If anyone is interested please email me for details

Thanks
MR-RMS
mr-rms@hotmail.com

omnis85
05-01-2008, 09:47 AM
looks intresting, I sent you a pm, does this run off of a 9v?

J-Dub Racing
05-01-2008, 10:42 AM
Interesting. We have been looking for something to test rotors. This just might be the tool.

Racin'Jason 8
05-01-2008, 11:26 AM
Wow, JM, that was fast! Nice job on the auto-alignment.

RCDEMON
05-01-2008, 01:30 PM
Three questions:
Which are the dimensions of the box?
Can it be recalibrated? Gaussmeters usually are calibrated on a regular basis. I think once a year.
After warranty is gone, how do you plan to support your product. 30 days seems kind of short to me.

Racin'Jason 8
05-01-2008, 02:29 PM
What's to calibrate?

He said it has a "zero" function and since the number is only relative to zero and is not assigned units, this is not necessary. What is your true intent behind these questions RCDEMON? Does Zubak offer a calibration service?

...surely you didn't sign up for Hobbytalk just to ask these questions - eh?

RCDEMON
05-01-2008, 03:17 PM
You are wrong twice. First, calibration is necessary if you want to be able to speak the same language with other people using the same meter and compare readings.
Second, if you want to know about Zubak services, ask him.

J-Dub Racing
05-01-2008, 03:31 PM
Even if they are calibrated they will still have different readings. Unless you intend to have the meter calibrated after every use it will very from meter to meter.

Let let the "owner" speak up before we get all crazy and have 5 pages of junk posts.

Dan
05-01-2008, 03:36 PM
You are wrong twice. First, calibration is necessary if you want to be able to speak the same language with other people using the same meter and compare readings.


It's pretty unlikely that you will ever get 'exact' readings, from one guy's
unit, to another, in any sort of meter that is value priced...

This meter, which I have seen used, offers the owner reliable comparisons,
without the need to 'center', or 'sweet spot'.
Which to me, is every bit as inaccurate for two different users trying to
compare numbers.... what are the chances that two individuals, will
find the same spot, and then have both meters 'matched'?

I think both of these products, will give the end user numbers that he can
use to determine his better pieces.

If you want to get accuracy above that, then you'd better look at something
for more than a deuce.....

pmsimkins
05-01-2008, 03:50 PM
You are wrong twice. First, calibration is necessary if you want to be able to speak the same language with other people using the same meter and compare readings.
Second, if you want to know about Zubak services, ask him.

Since he isn't using a programmable Hall it can't really be calibrated. Nor would it need to be in this application.

Calibrated or otherwise two gauss meters, or more accurately two probes, don't typically read the same. Even the ones that 10x more expensive have that problem.

Also the measurement method itself has much much more error then the small amount of drift over time or variation when they get put together. If I handed two people the same calipers and the same foam tire I'll bet you 90% of the time you'll get two different measurements. Same principle here.

I doubt you really care anyway. I'm guessing your goal is just to be difficult.

Racin'Jason 8
05-01-2008, 04:30 PM
You are wrong twice. First, calibration is necessary if you want to be able to speak the same language with other people using the same meter and compare readings.
Second, if you want to know about Zubak services, ask him.

We calibrate analog/digital devices in our lab everyday - there is no rocket science with these meters...it only displays an arbitrary number that its ADC spits out from an analog signal. Who cares about comparing numbers...you are searching for the best rotor in your box, right? The price is right and it looks cool.

I don't have to ask you about your services...I just visited your website.

You should think before you challenge people on such topics...how many points would YOU recommend these be calibrated at? How linear is YOUR sensor/circuit? Do you have temperature compensation? What is YOUR drift rating? Are YOUR reference standards NIST traceable...what is YOUR measurement uncertainty? Give me a break - this is a good, simple product.

Good job at keeping it simple, JB & JM :thumbsup:.

bluelineracer
05-01-2008, 05:03 PM
Just to interject one thing here.....
Nobody associated with the RMS product in it's initial post made any derogatory statements towards...well let's just say it...Zubie. I think now is the time to realize that there is honestly room for one, two or more products that provide this information. RC DEMON's post didn't degrade or disrespect anyone. I know there's loyalty involved on both sides but for the sake of maturity and decency, let's not turn this into another sharp-tongued battle of ego. I'm not a moderator....don't claim to be, but I've seen too many real life tragedies in the last month that I get tired of seeing p*ssing matches over stuff like this that is quite honestly insignificant.
Congrats to the RMS folks for a well packaged product and good luck as well. And, to Zubak as well for pioneering something that may provide the springboard for other ideas to generate.
If you've posted on this thread, I'm not attacking you, not my intent. There's a group of people in this hobby that work with this kind of information everyday in their "real" work and I appreciate their sharing of knowledge.

Respectfully,
Dusty Kemp

Al Spina Fan
05-01-2008, 06:52 PM
Well Said DK.

I think the overall intent is to see which rotor is the best one in your or your buddies box. Being able to compare to others over the web would be nice for any product.

JBRCells
05-01-2008, 07:23 PM
Here is the Image of the RMS-1

MR-RMS
05-01-2008, 07:55 PM
looks intresting, I sent you a pm, does this run off of a 9v?

pm Sent
and yes the units are powered by 9v Batteries

Alan Behler
05-01-2008, 08:20 PM
i am so glad this is going to be out....
i had the pleasure of using this product up in maine and i can tell you that it is really easy to use...

great job on reinventing the meter to make it so simple to use.

and great job making it up yourself without looking or taking pictures of anything else to do it:thumbsup:

MR-RMS
05-01-2008, 08:21 PM
to answer the "Calibration" Question...

see the above posts, could not have anwsered it better Thanks ALL

laserboy34
05-01-2008, 08:30 PM
Thank you for making something that i can afford.
It is hard when you are fielding more than 1 car to buy the extra toys that all the fast guys have. Well at least some of them:thumbsup:

beekman
05-01-2008, 08:45 PM
i love it when will mine be here in new jersey.

Brett Diaz
05-01-2008, 09:07 PM
Put me down for One.
UGPM

Bart Diaz
05-01-2008, 09:57 PM
I also used it in Maine I thought it was easier to use.

You have PM

beekman
05-01-2008, 10:29 PM
hi jamie hanson.

MR-RMS
05-01-2008, 11:01 PM
All PM and emails sent. Thanks for all the Interest! I'll keep you posted on delivery

Al Spina
05-02-2008, 08:22 AM
Rumor has it that there going like hotcakes!!!!!

abdule
05-02-2008, 07:15 PM
there you go again AL, FOOD...........:p so when does the price war start ?

laserboy34
05-02-2008, 08:42 PM
there you go again AL, FOOD...........:p so when does the price war start ?

What do you mean?
The other meter is $70 cheaper then they use to be.

katf1sh
05-02-2008, 09:11 PM
is this for 12.3 mm rotors only? that is nothing larger or smaller can be metered?

swtour
05-02-2008, 09:20 PM
...I edited because I'm not sure the comments were made by who I thought they were - that person joined this week (We have a racer with the same basic name)

jmcminn
05-03-2008, 08:22 AM
is this for 12.3 mm rotors only? that is nothing larger or smaller can be metered?

The RMS-1 reads 12.3 Novak rotors.All the information is in the PDF.The RMS-1 was created for whats in demand in the OVAL market.

wacko
05-07-2008, 10:48 PM
Got the E-mail that mine is ready!!! Woohoo new toy!

Joe Retherford

RIP MOTORSPORTS
05-08-2008, 03:31 PM
mine will be here tomorrow sweeeeeet!!!!!!40 shipped out already nice turn around time mcminn

MR-RMS
05-18-2008, 09:32 AM
Thanks to all who ordered! The first batch has sold out. I’m taking preorders for the next batch. Thanks again!

mr-rms@hotmail.com

Alan Behler
05-18-2008, 12:04 PM
congrats on your first 40

mine is awesome

thanks buddy

MR-RMS
05-19-2008, 08:28 PM
For those racers that have already made an investment on the previous Gauss meter, I would like to offer you a new probe assembly for 12.3mm rotors. The new assembly uses the Rotor Measurement System of self alignment.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=463652122590930983
The price is $39.99 plus shipping
If anyone is interested please email me for details.
Thanks again for your support.
MR-RMS
Mr-rms@hotmail.com

Alan Behler
05-19-2008, 08:38 PM
that looks great... nice job:thumbsup:
now ALL of those people that have the old meter have a better option

thanks for looking out for the racers

wait a minute
05-19-2008, 09:49 PM
are these adaptors availble to be purchased yet?

Alan Behler
05-20-2008, 08:06 AM
hey guys if you have any questions please e-mail MR RMS

he already is getting swamped with with messages on the newest news. so be patient. he does not want to promise stuff on here with how many people are asking for them

RIP MOTORSPORTS
05-20-2008, 04:35 PM
wow thats great for the people who have the zubie meter there is a cheap upgrade and very convienent! no more wand to fuss with.sweet

Porksalot4L
05-20-2008, 04:53 PM
some people like the WANDDDDDDDDDDDD jonny wand that is :)

Mr.fastman
05-21-2008, 04:57 PM
I used the prototype this past weekend and its awesome, very easy to use with repeatable consistent results.

Al Spina
05-21-2008, 05:21 PM
I understand that he has sold quite a few and everyone seems to be very satisfied with the improvement on the older unit....

Bart Diaz
05-21-2008, 08:10 PM
I can't wait to get mine.

oldtimer
05-24-2008, 09:32 AM
Very nice. Thank you Johnathan for the fast service i used it last night to check my stash of rotors . :woohoo:A new toy .See you soon Ken

Bart Diaz
05-27-2008, 05:18 PM
The new toy came today. Thanks

oldtimer
06-03-2008, 07:15 PM
Johnathan I brought the meter with me to trun 4 sun. I think i sold about 3 for you Very nice toy Thanks

RC5150
06-03-2008, 07:33 PM
Johnathan I brought the meter with me to trun 4 sun. I think i sold about 3 for you Very nice toy Thanks
Thanks again Kenny!! The unit works very well and is easy to use.....

MR-RMS
06-04-2008, 08:06 PM
Johnathan I brought the meter with me to trun 4 sun. I think i sold about 3 for you Very nice toy Thanks

Good job Ken - thanks alot
it is nice to know that all the work i put into the product is appreciated.
commision checks start at 5 units-sorry. Keep trying :lol:

Jonathan

oldtimer
06-04-2008, 08:54 PM
"DAM":wave:

Porksalot4L
06-04-2008, 10:40 PM
ill buy 2 of them due to Ken B :) now send him some money lol

RCMits
06-16-2008, 12:22 AM
i saw one of these at the track.. very well made, sturdy looking..... and simple enough to use. like any device, it helps "you" determine what you have and how to "tune" your motors accordingly. it'll vary from device to device, but like any "motor management system" i am sure any baseline you run, can give you an idea what works.

here is a pic i snatched at my local track:

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p118/RCMits/rms-1.jpg