I just wanted to come on here and let everyone no about the NEW RS speedo from Tekin. I had the honor this past weekend of getting to test one of the new RS speedos at Willow Mill speedway in Pa. I am happy to say there is no more of the glitching, hesitating, going backwards or anything like that with the new sensored RS Speedo. I ran a Novak 13.5 and a 10.5 with excellent results. It felt very smooth on throttle and also has very good brakes, everything is adjustable either through the speedo or with the trick little Hotwire. Trust me I am no computer guy but this thing is Very easy to adjust!! I know Jim from Tekin will be monitoring this thread so if you have any questions for him or me just let us know. I will be doing more testing this weekend and I believe production units are very close.

Phil Marabella

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Josh,
Just ran the Novak motors so far. I know Mike Dumas ran some Trinity motors with his and he said they worked great.
Phil

phil now all you need to do is get them legal to run in all 50 states! i run for speed passion and it's an uphill battle.

i am getting one to run for the carpet nats.

awesome news phil!

Is Tekin going to be replacing or giving a big discount to all the guys that bought the other Brushless speedos that were advertised as working with sensored motors and didn't? Not bashing, just wondering??

Mike don't know


Practicing today at the nats with the new RS man it is nice very smooth. the hotwire works awesome too.

i had a speedpassion in the car in the am 1st practice teched the car and it weighed 41.7 put the RS is and trimmed 1 oz off. yeah baby

Mike, I read on RC Tech that they were going to be giving some sort of discount or have an exchange program.

We are planning to do something for the Oval crowd that were disappointed.

Congrats to Jimmy Flack! Thank you for giving the RS its first National Championship in 21.5 w/lipo. Also a solid Amain in 13.5 and a 5th place finish.

Hopefully we clearly showed that the RS is a good, but not any kind of an unfair advantage for oval racing.

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We are planning to do something for the Oval crowd that were disappointed.

Congrats to Jimmy Flack! Thank you for giving the RS its first National Championship in 21.5 w/lipo. Also a solid Amain in 13.5 and a 5th place finish.

Hopefully we clearly showed that the RS is a good, but not any kind of an unfair advantage for oval racing.

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I'm not suprised that ROAR allowed the Tekin speedo.

It was a HUGE advantage.
Lapped the field in the A main.

That was the reason I did go to the ROAR Oval Nationals.

ROAR has no speedo rules for any classes and has never specified a single manufacturer at any event, ever. Only the BRL and Oval crowd in general has taken that stance. We are trying to make friends and prove a point with them.

I would assume you are kidding, but you gave a thumbs down? In 13.5 and 10.5 we were clearly off the pace of the leaders even looking at fastest lap where any speed advantage would clearly show up, we actually got lapped. In 21.5 I believe all the lap times were also very close and Jimmy just ran more good ones showing driver ability and not speedo advantage. 3 cars were on the lead lap and only poor Jeff got lapped... sorry Jeff, should have ran the RS.

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I'm not suprised that ROAR allowed the Tekin speedo.

It was a HUGE advantage.
Lapped the field in the A main.

That was the reason I did go to the ROAR Oval Nationals.


Ross you know what they say excuses are like a$$holes everbody has them.



with only 4 drivers running the 21.5 class I think that your statement is very unfair and since you weren't atually there to watch the race nieve. Jimmy Flack is a prior national champion.

Well a speedo does what it implies controls the speed of the car.

If everyone had the option of running the speedo then I wouldn't have a
problem with it.

It wasn't available to everyone who raced.

That is why alot of people are not comming to these type of races.

This is my opinion.
I have nothing against Tekin.

OK Ross you win lol


nevermind

FYI Jim there is very serious talks of Florida leading them way and allowing any speedo to be run.
http://snowbirdnationals.yuku.com/topic/2120?page=1

Ross you know what they say excuses are like a$$holes everbody has them..


Dave,

I guess you will never learn.
I'll see you at the next race.

Well talk.

no you won't Ross because I actually go to races No Ross you'll never learn

PM sent

I pre ordered one... but I have my doubts about it. Based on my past bad experiences with Tekin and all the hype about the R1.. and then we find it doesnt work well with high turn motors with tall gearing... glad I waited to see how they worked before I ordered a R1.... but I am counting on they finally got everything figured out with the RS model.... cause its not heavy enough for a good paper weight ;)

ROAR has no speedo rules for any classes and has never specified a single manufacturer at any event, ever. Only the BRL and Oval crowd in general has taken that stance. We are trying to make friends and prove a point with them.

I would assume you are kidding, but you gave a thumbs down? In 13.5 and 10.5 we were clearly off the pace of the leaders even looking at fastest lap where any speed advantage would clearly show up, we actually got lapped. In 21.5 I believe all the lap times were also very close and Jimmy just ran more good ones showing driver ability and not speedo advantage. 3 cars were on the lead lap and only poor Jeff got lapped... sorry Jeff, should have ran the RS.

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Congrats to Tekin and Jimmy on the win! It was a great race and Jimmy drove awesome the entire weekend. Don't feel sorry for me Jim, you know how I feel about Tekin products, I love them. If I had one, I would have been running it. :thumbsup:

I pre ordered one... but I have my doubts about it. Based on my past bad experiences with Tekin and all the hype about the R1.. and then we find it doesnt work well with high turn motors with tall gearing... glad I waited to see how they worked before I ordered a R1.... but I am counting on they finally got everything figured out with the RS model.... cause its not heavy enough for a good paper weight ;)


you'll be very pleased with the RS I am.

you'll be very pleased with the RS I am.

I hope your right... my plan is... if I like it.... to run it at the IIC this year.
You havent heard if they will have support at the IIC? Yea I know.. its not a oval race :lol:

Congrats to Tekin and Jimmy on the win! It was a great race and Jimmy drove awesome the entire weekend. Don't feel sorry for me Jim, you know how I feel about Tekin products, I love them. If I had one, I would have been running it. :thumbsup:

as they have been told many times team tekin only has to submit a speedo to the brl and it could legalized. they have not done this only bashed them for not allowing there speedo.

Stratus 54 I am sure there will be support there. I know Mike Dumas and Mo Denton have been running the RS in mod and Cuffs has been running 10.5 and 13.5 with it and all are happy.


Hobbyten it is only a matter of time before the BRL has to open up there speedos to allow all manufactors. But I am sure that Sonny Brown will have a RS in his hands soon.

we just got done running the ROAR nats down here where any speedo was legal. and guess what the LRP sphere TC was the speedo of choice for almost all.

and Hobbyten to be honest Florida is going to lead the way and allow any speedo to be run and show the rest of the country how WE ROLL.

and Hobbyten to be honest Florida is going to lead the way and allow any speedo to be run and show the rest of the country how WE ROLL.

Thats how it should be any race any speedo.

and Hobbyten to be honest Florida is going to lead the way and allow any speedo to be run and show the rest of the country how WE ROLL.

ALL I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT TEKIN HAS BEEN COMPLAINING FOREVER ABOUT THERE SPEEDO BEING ILLEGAL AND SONNY HAS TOLD THEM OVER AND OVER TO GET ONE TO HIM SO IT CAN BE CHECKED OUT. THEY HAVEN'T SENT ONE YET AND THAT IS WHY THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED. NOVAK AND LRP SENT THEIRS TO SONNY TO GET THEM LEGALIZED WHY SHOULD TEKIN THINK THEY SHOULD GET SPECIAL TREATMENT ON THEIRS.

keep your pants on dude. The RS is very very new only like 6 of us in the country with them right now more team drivers will get theres shortly. then us team guys test them and give feedback to Jim and staff.

The BRL will have a unit to test soon.

The RS is very very new only like 6 of us in the country with them right now

So there's no approval process through ROAR? I thought a certain number has to be available to the public before they can be run at a National event? Not a jab, just an honest question.

Roar Has No Rules On Electronics

No rules, huh?

A few pics of the RS in the 21.5 BL Car.. Hyperdrive 6 cell solid chassis.....How many other Speed controls can sit flat behind the batteries on a Hyperdrive chassis!!!!!! And a few snap shots of the Hotwire Program that adjusts the Tekin speed contol line.......Very Sweet!!!!!!!

No rules, huh?

not that I know of. I know they had a rule about chassis and availabilty but nothing about electronics.

awesome time too get back to racing thanks guys

you'll like it vodoo all we have to do it get people to let us run them.

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RS units are shipping currently! Motors are due to arrive in Early June.

I hope your right... my plan is... if I like it.... to run it at the IIC this year.
You havent heard if they will have support at the IIC? Yea I know.. its not a oval race :lol:

We will be in Vegas. Hopefully with a big smile on our face. So far the RS looks sweet in TC stock and mod.

Hobbyten – We have never bashed the BRL for not approving our speedo although some of our drivers might have worked them a little. We have never asked or submitted one and until now did not have one that worked in this application. We did complain when we were told that our motors would not even be considered. In fact I believe we were told “if we work real hard we might be a distant second” and excused with an Amen. I think you told us to go start our own series so we could have it our own way when all we did was announce to the general oval crowd that we were going to offer a 21.5 motor that met all the rules in a non-BRL related thread. It was the only time we have been on this forum and we have not been back until now. Lets stay out of the mud and just move forward. The BRL is not the only oval group we are addressing. Now that the products are available and can speak for themselves the members or leaders can decide what works for them. Although we would enjoy being part of this series, we are not going to try and swim upstream and will just let it play it as it may. I think it will prove to be a lot of worry over nothing and many tracks will prove that in the coming months.

There are no design or availability rules for electronics and there should not be. Orange has had proto units running at all the recent major events. You cannot control things you cannot tech. The motors limit the classes as they should. We are all pushing them to the limits regardless of how we get there. Gear them until they blow and back up half a click.... Then you have to actually set up the car and drive it.

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i appreciate what you are saying. in responce to the motor deal i believe mod should be open to any motor but as far as the 13.5 class and the 17.5 class i do believe the motor needs to be left to one manufacture just as they have done at the snowbirds in 19 turn. now in this same respect i don't see a problem with a different motor manufacture for either class such as 13.5 novak and 17.5 another builder. it would be neat to have each one be sponsored by the different builder to help get more corporate involvement. this is something that would have to be addressed to sonny as it is his series just as mike b. has the snowbirds. at the current cost of motors we don't want to see a motor of the week deal as i've seen in stock over the yrs.

major leap for florida! all esc's will be legal in the 10.5 classes now!

Hobbyten – We have never bashed the BRL for not approving our speedo although some of our drivers might have worked them a little.
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http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showpost.php?p=2095381&postcount=40

http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showpost.php?p=2095464&postcount=45

Granted you did try to be nice, but you did bash them. For what ever this is worth. :)

Gezer no need to sling mud. bottom line is technology is moving forward. sooner or later the BRL will open the speedo's up.

Guys what's is in the past is in the past. In fact Jim and I have talked with each other at a couple of events since then.

As far as the BRL we have tried to keep the atmosphere fun, the competition fair, and the financial impact on new technology to a minimum…. That will not change going forward.

I’m not going to get into the specifics now but you shoul know that I am reviewing some options for next season. You may see a few rules changes in selected classes that will allow additional electronics to be used.

We are primarily a winter series so I won’t update the rules until this fall. I realize that some tracks around the country base off our rules package and racers may be looking for updates for the summer racing season . If this is the case I would suggest talking with the local track owner. They can make the decision what works best for their racing program.

Guys what's is in the past is in the past. In fact Jim and I have talked with each other at a couple of events since then.

As far as the BRL we have tried to keep the atmosphere fun, the competition fair, and the financial impact on new technology to a minimum…. That will not change going forward.

I’m not going to get into the specifics now but you shoul know that I am reviewing some options for next season. You may see a few rules changes in selected classes that will allow additional electronics to be used.

We are primarily a winter series so I won’t update the rules until this fall. I realize that some tracks around the country base off our rules package and racers may be looking for updates for the summer racing season . If this is the case I would suggest talking with the local track owner. They can make the decision what works best for their racing program.

Thats great knews Sonny I look foward to running with you and the rest of the great BRL gang again. With my tekin gear. I realy missed racing with you guys. This year was just impossiable for me to do even if I wasnt running tekin stuff I wouldnt of been able to attend much to . But since I dont have to run a track anymore or electronic issues I hope this will be the best season yet for all of us as racers.

I am amazed by how small that ESC is! It may be time to move my 4-cell GTB out of my 1:12 car and put in that RS!

I feel now that ROAR is stepping forward and updating the rules for brushless and LiPO, Tekin and everyone else has a fighting chance to show off the new technologies. Did anyone notice that ROAR had a 21.5 LiPO class at the Carpet Oval Nats?

If BRL follows ROAR's lead by being open with motor, battery and electronic submissions the only changes a racer has to make to attend either or event would pretty much be the body. Making it simple for everyone, will make it FUN and more attractive for CLUBS outside the NorthEast to adopt BRL rules and increase the OVAL popularity!

If BRL follows ROAR's lead by being open with motor, battery and electronic submissions the only changes a racer has to make to attend either or event would pretty much be the body. Making it simple for everyone, will make it FUN and more attractive for CLUBS outside the NorthEast to adopt BRL rules and increase the OVAL popularity!

why not ROAR follow BRL's lead?

How does one buy this new RS speed control? Or is it just for the special people.

The RS is really close to being released. Us Team guys are the final stages of testing. Best Bet is to check with you LHS first then look at places like Tower and Stormer.

How many are being shipped the first week? 1000?

why not ROAR follow BRL's lead?

That is like asking NASCAR to adopt a county fair racing rules.

That is like asking NASCAR to adopt a county fair racing rules.

Wow! Tell us how you really feel! :rolleyes: