Got an email that the Seaviews have arrived at FABgear where I had an order.

They should be there soon, but not quite yet! They're out there, but I think all in transit still.

HOT DIGGITY DANG!!!!! Any time now! :woohoo:



Of course, now watch as the days start dragging longer. :rolleyes:

Woohoo!

Didn't I read something yesterday about a train wreck in China that destroyed a lot of plastic model kits on the way to the shipping docks? :eek: :confused:

The good news is that the Lubliner Seaview is still on schedule! :thumbsup:

Can someone please give us an out-of-box review with pics?
and if anyone starts building one right away, please give us a pictorial build up.

Much ablige

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x259/jimmyThePipe/msSwan.png

It... looka like.... it, looka like... a submarine.

:)




*Sorry 'Mac, just the 1st thing that popped into my head this am.

Can someone please give us an out-of-box review with pics?
and if anyone starts building one right away, please give us a pictorial build up.

Much ablige

Can someone please give us an out-of-box review with pics?
and if anyone starts building one right away, please give us a pictorial build up.

http://www.culttvman2.com/dnn/Default.aspx?tabid=835

The good news is that the Lubliner Seaview is still on schedule! :thumbsup:

At least, it's on the same schedule it's been on right along! :)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lazymodeler/sets/72157604540930175/

Looking good, Jeff.

BTW, I picked up one of those aqua-dozers too. How great is it that someone commissioned a model of that thing? Nice to know it's the same scale as the Flying Sub (aka aqua-foil) that comes with the Seaview.

Are you going to light your sub?

Someone makes a kit of the Aqua-Dozer?

Come on, share the details.

It's not a kit, it's a wooden display model produced by Asian slave laborers. They pop up on ebay from time to time. Happy hunting!

There are photos of the aqua dozer model, as well as the original miniature, on my site--the wooden model isn't quite accurate but it's AMAZING that it was made and it really looks quite nice--I do think it's close to Seaview scale, maybe just slightly too large.

I am lighting the kit and I'm waiting on that lighting kit so don't expect much immediate progress--so far I've done the initial filling and sanding of the window section and assembled the front half minus the bow bottom and Flying Sub bay (one of numerous cool things about the kit is you can put the front half together and still easily insert the interior details later because they all mount onto the lower bow piece that is separate).

Depending on what the lighting kit is like I'll probably drill out some holes for fiber optics and possibly some of the radar screens in the control room so I won't be completing that assembly until I figure that out. While I do think you get an excellent view of the interior through the windows, it's still impossible to make out EVERY detail so a few well-placed fiber optics and lights will really add a lot to that area I think.

I can't really "review" this kit since I played a minor role in the instruction sheet material but I will say that so far all the part fit is amazingly good--teeny weeny parts in that control room, stuff that would normally drive my aging hands crazy, but everything slips together with remarkable ease.

HOT DIGGITY DANG!!!!! Any time now! :woohoo:



Of course, now watch as the days start dragging longer. :rolleyes:

Just keep yer pants on.

:freak: Sorry, I'm addicted now. Can't...stop...PANTSPANTSPANTSPANTSPANTS:drunk:

http://www.culttvman2.com/dnn/Default.aspx?tabid=835Thanks,, why are there two sets of bow windows? I never realized there was any difference in the windows during the seasons.

nadda

Thanks,, why are there two sets of bow windows? I never realized there was any difference in the windows during the seasons.


The two sets of bow windows are so that the builder has the freedom to choose which of the studio miniature versions he wishes to build. The 18' foot studio miniature used for surface shots featured the window frames, while the underwater filming miniatures lacked them.
Either way you build it, this sub is going to make for a fine display piece. :thumbsup:

Actually the 17 footer lacked the window frames and the 8 1/2 "underwater" miniature had them.

And you call yourself Seaview?!? ;)

Actually the 17 footer lacked the window frames and the 8 1/2 "underwater" miniature had them.

And you call yourself Seaview?!? ;)
Quite right, the 8ft miniature had the frames what was used for underwater shots.

Even if you used the framed windows on this new Moebius model it would still look like the 17 miniature, the ballast vents would still have the 17ft ones as the ballast vents on the 8ft miniature were different from the 17ft miniature.

I've got a dyslexic key board! Yeah! That's what happened! REALLY! Honest injun!

I've got a dyslexic key board! Yeah! That's what happened! REALLY! Honest injun!
That’s an excuse, you just didn’t know. Its very surprising that a guy called Seaview would not know of this. :rolleyes:

The 17-footer ballast tank vents were one of the great surprises on this kit--I think that happened late in the game. I always loved the look of the 17-foot vents and those have never been duplicated on anything but maybe the DeBoers Seaview until now...

For those of you that are really paying attention, kits are supposed to arrive at the CultTVman shop on Thursday, 4/24. That means our first orders should ship out on Friday, Apr. 25. Given the volume of kits we have to ship, it could take us a week or longer to get everyone's models in the mail.

thanks
Steve

That's OK Steve. I've got enough unfinished kits to keep me busy until the forklift shows up with my kit! :woohoo:

And I've finished off all the "minor" projects, and my workbench is ready. I guess I'll just go out and actually get some (pantpantpant) exercise and (gasp!) fresh air and sunshine until the Seaview docks in my P.O. box. :hat:

"(pantpantpant)"= pants
hb

Seaview kit? It's just this model, you know.

Just a Model!

Is Dr. Pepper just a soft drink?!

Is Moebius Models just another plastic kit manufacture?!

Is my sanity questionable? :freak:

Just a Model.....hmf!....somebody get a rope!

"(pantpantpant)"= pants
hb Are you bragging or is this just a naught post ? :dude:

I was told that my LHS 'Galaxy Hobby' will have it maybe by this Wed. We 'should' be the first to get a shipment.

We still have a few Capt Action kits as well.

WOO HOO!!!!!!! :woohoo:

This kit is amazing! I cannot wait to get one for myself.
I trully think that Moebius will be the next big thing, this
is a great time for modelers.

It is my hope of course that they will make the Movie Version
in the same scale.

Fortress

It is my hope of course that they will make the Movie Version in the same scale.

I doubt that, considering previous comments by Moebius.

Look for aftermarket conversions aplenty, however ;)

Really?

What did Moebius say regarding the movie version
Seaview?

Fortress

Really?

What did Moebius say regarding the movie version
Seaview?

http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=205265&page=5

There are a few obvious things (to someone that is familiar with it) that eliminate the possibility of doing 8 window with this kit as is. I wish we could have included it all, but just not possible. As the guys very familiar with it will tell you, the main differences are the sonar domes (movie version has a single on the superstructure, none on the hull), the Flying Sub bay (not on the movie version), and interior. You really need a complete new nose to do this correct. A conversion kit would be quite a project for someone, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone tries it!

http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=205265&page=5

I wouldn't say it's something we would never do, but it's somthing that can't be made from the kit as is. It would require tooling a completely new hull from the break forward. I guess it's a good thing the hull is split so it could be done. Not that there was a thought of that when it was done..... No hints here, but if this one sells good enough, we'll look at how feasible it is.

I'd say you'd better start making mods Frank! This kit's gonna be a runaway hit! Withall the modellers, collectors, Voyage fans and sci fi nuts in general, they're definitely going to move!!

Chris.:)

Most likely that someone could make either a resin or vaccumm formed after market Seaview submarine head for those who really want the movie version.It might be true that a certain number of VTTBS movie fans might want that version,but would that number be high enough for Moebius to reconsider issuing that version.I would say no,but I could be wrong.I think that we are lucky enough to have the TV version,which was definitely the right choice due to it's great popularity,as far as I am concerned.Therefore Moebius should not feel any guilt or obligation to produce that movie version if the potential number of sales is too low.:o

There's absolutely no reason in the world for them to feel guilty or obliged and I doubt you will find anyone who would disagree!! We're very lucky to have Moebius and Monarch around.
If sales can be increased by tooling up a few parts in a kit, great! The Japanese manufacturers have been doing it for years and they always manage to sell to a large degree. As an example, Academy Liberator and Catalina aircraft kits have been reissued in their different marks for ages. The Liberator even has a separate nose section to enable massive changes. Tamiya have recently retooled their excellent 1/32 Zero into an earlier version and they're selling well.
As far as Seaview is concerned, I'm sure Moebius has enough business savvy to figure out if they could profitably release another variant.

Chris.:)

I guess there would have to be a new interior for the bow as well. I wonder what scale a new movie-appropriate control room would be?

I wouldn't say it's something we would never do, but it's somthing that can't be made from the kit as is. It would require tooling a completely new hull from the break forward. I guess it's a good thing the hull is split so it could be done. Not that there was a thought of that when it was done..... No hints here, but if this one sells good enough, we'll look at how feasible it is.

I don't think I'd buy one of the eight-windowed version, myself, but I'd love to see the sales go through the roof for the current version and for the eight-windowed version if you do release it.:thumbsup:

I guess there would have to be a new interior for the bow as well. I wonder what scale a new movie-appropriate control room would be?


There's the rub; there would not be a control room visible in the 8-window "movie" version, because it was located behind a wall at the top of a staircase. The only room we ever got to see was a "lounge" area behind the bottom row of windows (complete with dinette table!), and even throughout the first season, we never got to see what was behind the top window row.
However, I for one would be very interested, indeed, to get an 8-window version, because it gives the distinct impression of being a much larger sub. :)

Voila, my screen grabs of the 8-window bow compartment interior from the original movie:
http://www.inpayne.com/seaview/seaviewpics.html

I love the diner booth.

Great pix John. Yeah. I would love an aftermarket upgrade for the movie version. Who can turn down orange naugahyde?

If there could be a movie version nose could there be a cut-a-way version?

I have been watching VTTBOTS on ALNTV and saw an interior layout of the Seaview. I know that Mr Allen has the "TARDIS" effect in place on all of his "ships" but could some of the rooms be seen from the exterior. Maybe with clear panels on one side of the sub where the Control Room and Missile Room are located.

Question: Would it be kosher for someone to cast a hull section in clear resin to make the interior visible rather than having to remove a section of hull ? I'm sure there are model builders out there who'd love to build a "visible" Seaview.

Certainly it would be "kosher", but probably not a very wise busines investment. The reason I say this is because of the dismal sales of the Lunar models "clear hull" 16" Jupiter II, which sold between 30 and 50 kits tops. The thought behind that was so the builder could see his flight deck better, but the idea apparently wasn't very popular with customers.

Question: Would it be kosher for someone to cast a hull section in clear resin to make the interior visible rather than having to remove a section of hull ? I'm sure there are model builders out there who'd love to build a "visible" Seaview.Since the Seaview's hull has a constant circular cross-section for most of its length, it probably wouldn't be too difficult to saw out a section of the side of the hull and replace it with a suitable clear material. Then you could have a "visible" Seaview with a fully fleshed-out interior -- and the control room could be separated from the observation lounge and put where it logically should be, instead of being dozens of feet from the periscope!

There are also "bulkhead" sections evenly spaced along the inside of the hull that would make that easier. I think a cutaway would be the best option; the kit gives builders a great start with the way the hull and interior details are done.