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bobhch
10-26-2008, 04:06 PM
Bill the toolman Hall- er,

Woaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah that is an impressive tool layout.

The Dremel is one of my favorites....Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Bob...What no sledge hammer?...zilla

resinmonger
10-26-2008, 10:33 PM
A tool for everyting and everything in its place - kinda what one would expect from a master craftsman. Thanks for the shop tour, sensei. :drunk: :hat: :freak: :dude:

NTxSlotCars
10-27-2008, 12:32 AM
Love the tool layout. No wonder you can do anything. But, the best thing in your tool box is the operator.

Rich

roadrner
10-27-2008, 08:06 AM
Guess I should take the time to clean too. Would be nice to have a little more working area not cluttered up with all the odds and ends that seem to accumulate. :freak: rr

Hilltop Raceway
10-27-2008, 09:42 AM
Wow Bill, Did you play Al on "Tool Time"??? I wish I could stay that organized!!! I gotta do better!!! Thanks for the plastic surgery tool pics...RM

win43
10-28-2008, 11:49 AM
Bill
Seeing all those tools brought me back to the days I spent as "metal butcher" (aka machinist). Butcher :rolleyes: being the more accurate term. I had to make parts from blueprints with the dimensions in fractions (what a shop :( ).

BUT such organization Bill ......I thought "clutter" was a sign of genius. There you go again setting a new standard :lol::jest::tongue:

Thanks for another peek into the slot cave.

T-jetjim
10-28-2008, 06:16 PM
Bill- Just how big is that surgical tool tray? Doesn't the TM get tired holding it while you perform your delicate work? Somehow I didn't calculate enough table space just to hold the tools, let alone the projects. Thanks for the nickel tour.
Jim

Bill Hall
10-28-2008, 08:32 PM
Well guys honestly thats just the way I laid things out after I wiped it all down. I'll get some pics of how the bench and tools really look when everything is put away. My actual table top is quite small.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04934.jpg

Here's a rare duck from Bobzilla. Typically blown A pillars of which ya might think no big deal however this is one of those cars where the artwork is in jeopardy and the slightest slip can take it from a 1 to a 3 er four rating.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04937.jpg

Bob sent a big pile of donor plastic along. AFX royal blue is kinda rare. Included were three haggard 510 spyders. One was used to create a batch of repair plastic, one was tossed in the AFX maybe box because it is tonally different to the Grandam to be repaired (a shade lighter on A pillars is death), and the third was set aside because it washed up rather nice

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04935.jpg

Unfortunately the spoiler and brake ducts were AWOL. Prior to cooking up the donor specimen the remnants of the airdam was removed.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04936.jpg

Toothless of course! Naturally some of it was missing but what we had was bonded in and the remainder was done on the fly using some bits I had reserved from the donor for stock.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04938.jpg

Once the graft was set a first coat of thin royal blue was allowed to fill all the seams and set a while....until it flashed off and got tacky.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04941.jpg

The second pass was applied in an unthinned state where material was lacking and allowed to settle/flash; then another thin coat was washed over the entire repair to blend it all together. Crazy as it may sound I much preferred this car without all the cardboard stickers. While not dead nutz perfect the stripe work is quite nice on this example so the time to chase the spoilers is justified. Might even have to break down and get the correct Vincent, Fuchs alloys from MEV for this car.

More to follow later....must fill pie hole!

bobhch
10-28-2008, 10:46 PM
Bill,

Thanks in advance for fixing the window post for me on this Grand Am. :)

This is one neat Hombre of an AFX body. I have had the the RWB along with the Yellow and Orange version of this body for a long, long time. This Blue ones just puts the Frosting on top of the cake for me. :hat:

If anything should go Aray on this don't worry about it man as I could just crome it. ;) Har...it is all good & No worries!

Nice work on the Porsche front end. I thought you might be able to save one of them. :cool: Neat to see you fix stuff up as always.

Bob...HaPPY cAmPeR...zilla

Bill Hall
10-29-2008, 11:31 AM
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04948.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04949.jpg

Now that I've played a little bit with the royal blue goop on the 917 spyder; I've got a feel for it and can begin on 'Zillas funny car. I had the grafts cut out the other day, but decided to play it safe and get to know the new color. After a little file work, here's the second pass over the Grandam pillar grafts.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04931-1.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04932-1.jpg

Tossed these pics in to show goop actually shrinks in. Compare these to the last pics where the material was first applied. One more light filing and another skim should bring the last of the wowees out. I just keep after it until they come straight whether I have to go back over it it two times or ten times.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04939-1.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04940-1.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04946.jpg

This weeks extra credit project is a thrashed green Buggy. First off both screw posts were repaired as well as the chinny chin chin. Typical with buggies the front apron is often nicked up.

The roof was extra crispy and included some staining that had to be sanded out. The red accent stripes were well worn on the outside edges of the roof ...again typical. Takes 30 er 40 minutes to mask....and 3 er 4 minutes to paint ...snicker. Testors "insignia red" is a very nice match for the red striped buggy roof. I'm out of chrome dimple wheels for now and the yellow buggy rims barf me out so a set of vintage AJ's were chucked up and polished...only takes a minute!


http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04943.jpg

Update on one of my "New Year Resolution" cars...LOL! Here's a spy shot of the new front axle and headlamp brackets. Naturally they will be cut down some to hunker the lamp buckets down low as was practice in the era. This drop axle is fabbed from solid rod rather than tube stock. Just trying something different cuz it wuz there. Next up will be some hairpin style radius rods and another soldering session.

Thanx for riding along!

slotcarman12078
10-29-2008, 11:48 AM
The grand am is looking better already!! A delicate operation for sure, especially when it comes time to buff her out!! Wheels do make the difference with the dune buggy, and the posts on the toronado are getting there!! The brass front end prove to me you are indeed the master craftsman!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

NutherJoe

Bill Hall
10-29-2008, 11:58 AM
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04945.jpg

Fergot this one! Here's the insignia red roof striping.

T-Jet Racer
10-29-2008, 12:30 PM
I just want to know on thing Bill, Where do you get the time... These incredible repairs are no 2 minute matters. As usual all the cars are looking great!

NTxSlotCars
10-29-2008, 03:10 PM
Come on Bill, tell us the truth. Opposable thumbs or not, I say the cat's the real genius! Right Bill? I mean, I couldn't help but notice how all those tools look and function like cats claws. The cat hair all over the bench, the continual references to how these repairs aren't humanly possible, the bowl of cat chow in the background! A-HA!!! It took 413 post to figure it out, but we're finally on to you! .........but we still like it.

Don't fire the cat.

Rich

Bill Hall
10-29-2008, 08:12 PM
Gus is on permanent retainer in a supervisory capacity. He keeps me from taking things too seriously and reminds me that they are just mechanical mice with the fur stripped away. Besides he's got tenure.

Seriously guys I grab time whenever possible. Sometimes I steal ten minutes here or there throughout the week whenever I can sneak in. I usually grab at least one session during the week when I can actually sit down for a couple two, three hours.

I do have a couple of modeling mantras. The first of which is not to get too hung up on any one project in particular. This applies more to my own crap than customer cars. No frenzies allowed! I just let things happen as it plays out. If it takes me such and such amount of time to get back to something ...then thats how long it takes. :p

Conservation of motion is rule 2! I always try do like tasks together.
If yer following along, I try to keep things moving along in such fashion that while I'm dragging a green Toronado repair along for show and tell I'm also banging a green buggy in the shadows because I have the green out and flowing. Same with Bob's royal blue Grand Am and the 510 spyder...if it's the same color? ...then do it while the blue is open.

Some days I get up early and wander into the slot cave and take a few minutes to reskim repairs...smear a screw post or two... dot some A pillars ...or reslobber some wheel wells. Stick and move!

Stay fresh! Burnout is common so having other things to do is theraputic. Some times I push it all aside and run my collection... AKA playin' cars. Other times I dump out the "maybe box" and push bits around on the cutting board to see if anything sparks. Some nights it's chassis night...or bend up some brass night. Diversions are a good thing when taken in moderation.

Cut off the finger to save the hand! Some projects just stall for whatever reason or no reason at all. So what! It'll be there next week, month, year. I'm never afraid to push something aside that is fighting me or being uncooperative. A new perspective is always just a week away if ya push it aside. ;) LOL!

Practice purgatory. Force yerself to revisit tasks or projects that have cooling for a while. I make it a point to do something in the slot cave that I dont really want to!

Most of my best tricks consist of practicing child psychology on myself.

Whatever it takes ...right? :thumbsup:

bobhch
10-29-2008, 09:21 PM
Bill,

I like the way you think....when ever it gets done...push aside...etc. :thumbsup:

Burnout isn't fun and myself I need to have several projects going and slide back and forth between them.

A project I am working on right now is picking my jaw up after looking at me funny car.

Bob...Bill for President of the Slot Car Fix it Coalition (aka SCFIC)...zilla

WesJY
10-30-2008, 09:54 PM
Bill,

I like the way you think....when ever it gets done...push aside...etc. :thumbsup:

Burnout isn't fun and myself I need to have several projects going and slide back and forth between them.

A project I am working on right now is picking my jaw up after looking at me funny car.

Bob...Bill for President of the Slot Car Fix it Coalition (aka SCFIC)...zilla

fine with me!! bill is the master !!!!

Wes

tjd241
10-31-2008, 10:52 AM
The locator pins for the roof and windshield are not quite the same. Will you be addressing this? :rolleyes: nd

Bill Hall
10-31-2008, 12:47 PM
The locator pins for the roof and windshield are not quite the same. Will you be addressing this? :rolleyes: nd

HEY! Yer not supposed to look behind the curtain.

Pay no attention to the man!

Hilltop Raceway
10-31-2008, 01:51 PM
Bill, That Grand Am is gonna be nice!!! Let me send you this one and just send me Bob's. I'm sure he'd rather have an original, straight off the track. I'm guessing this one's running a Super III set up...RM

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc196/kwikdeals/002-7.jpg

Bill Hall
10-31-2008, 02:37 PM
Is that the good side?

Bummer Hill! That's really tragic damage.

Seriously, we can fix any car here, even melted ones. Send car, chassis, and a blank check. :lol:

Bill Hall
10-31-2008, 05:10 PM
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04950.jpg

Always tape up any art work when filing or sanding. No need to hermetically seal things ...just a barrier to take the brunt of any slips or whoopsies. Remember to always remove the tape carefully so you do no harm!

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04951.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04952.jpg

Always check your file! Which side goes towards the door sill? The toothless side of course...but it's a good idea to check and recheck everytime you put it to the workpiece.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04953.jpg

First roughed with the file , then scuffed in 600.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04956.jpg

A dab will do ya. Pull a little full strength goop around and thin it out right on the lid.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04958.jpg

Apply the goop gently. When I'm glazing the bristles NEVER touch the repair area on the workpiece...only the drop of goop touches and is then pulled or coaxed along using surface tension to control it. NOTE: The masking tape is removed prior to gooping. Ya dont wanna know what happens when goop gets under masking tape. Scary bad Juju!

Bill Hall
10-31-2008, 05:39 PM
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04961.jpg

With the body set aside I had a look at the chassis. Bob's Grand Am arrived with tires from the 70's....the 1870's that is. I had some wide fronts that were still soft but didnt have the cheapo half wide rears. I always stock the fatty lowpro PVT for the rear specialty rims. I usually convert all my "fatlip" rears to full width dragster style rims.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04962.jpg

Chuck the rim up on your cordless and use a point blade to cut the lip depth. Look closely ! ...There IS a line to follow.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04964.jpg

Then cut a shoulder using the gouge to further establish the lip.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04965.jpg

Once ya got a nice neat lip just finish it up with the gouge.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04966.jpg

Is there any doubt? Gotta have the fatties! While we were at it the comm was flattened, the magnet buttons on the gear plate were shaved (they were pushing the rear magnet out the chassis bottom) and finally a good toothpaste lapping in both directions to loosen the gear-rack up. The previous owner had two tons of spring pressure on the pick ups and gobs of toe on the skis. The springs got smooshed and the contact patches were adjusted so she's now a smooth running pussy cat.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04967.jpg

Cant touch her for a week or so while those pillars stiffen up but I had to put a teaser pic up for Bob!

bobhch
10-31-2008, 05:44 PM
:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04967.jpg

Cant touch her for a week or so while those pillars stiffen up but I had to put a teaser pic up for Bob!

Whoooooooooooooh Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! This just made my day!!!!

Bill, That Grand Am is gonna be nice!!! Let me send you this one and just send me Bob's. I'm sure he'd rather have an original, straight off the track. I'm guessing this one's running a Super III set up...RM



Hilltop,

no,no,no....you got it all wrong. All Rare blue cars get sent to Rich for the Sprint Car conversion.

Bob...Just WING it...zilla

Bill Hall
10-31-2008, 06:36 PM
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04969.jpg

The Toronado roof had considerable playwear but we didnt have to go down to 320 to get it out. 600 cut the damage away nicely. Try and pay attention so you dont roll over the edges when sanding. Ya wanna keep the detail so concentrate on keeping flat!

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04979.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04978.jpg

Both pillars were bladed and picked clean again, including the side window surrounds. Then the pillars are washed agressively with testors to smooth the remaining rough edges. Once all the fuzzies and micro nicks are worked away the pillars and roof are all blended together with a gentle wash of thinned goop. The right pillar is still a little saggy baggy in the middle. We'll chase it again during the upcoming wheel well repairs.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04954.jpg

The grey XKE rear valences have been roughed out with the file, sanded, and re-skimmed. Seen here checking the bumper fit and sneaking up on the contour of the valence that makes up the bottom of the rear well. Still needs opened up a little and that's a good thing. We dont have to add material! I'll nibble away at this lil bits at a time.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04959.jpg

While we we're tearing things up the Porsche was smacked around with the file and some 320. During the preliminary scuff I'm looking for lowspots and wowees. Other than a nicky-poo in the brake vent that I can live with, this is ready for some more material.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04960.jpg

With any luck there is now enough material here to work with. It's quite thick compared to the original and will get cut down quite a bit. Still I will leave it thicker that stock. I do plan to run this so a little extra meat in this notoriously weak area couldnt hurt. Time to walk away and build a chassis...maybe I'll start roughing out a rear wing.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04971.jpg

Last we did the headlamp stalks....and screwed them up...kinda! Hindsight sez I probably should have pulled the brackets all the way through the front axle beam and shaped the excess into a forward spreader bar. Crapolla!

Of course the idea didnt hit me until I was well into the fabrication of the hairpins. The front spreader bar is standard equipment on all my AFX bodied brass rats but slipped through my coconut without so much as a glimmer. Rather than attempt a de-solder and refab I moved ahead and built the split radius rods. De-soldering in an area the size of a quarter is generally fool hardy and results in a tangled wad of junk on the work bench.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04974.jpg

Now that it's temporarily assembled I'm OK with it after all. The added material would have added length to this build. Overall length was one of the main reasons this build was cast aside and subsequently revisited. Maybe I absentmindedly dodged a bullet...?

slotcarman12078
10-31-2008, 07:44 PM
I would have never thought the grand am would be done that fast!! Sweet is right!! The toronado is getting there!! And the rat rod front end looks dang good to me!!! You 'n Gus make a heck of a tag team!!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

1976Cordoba
10-31-2008, 09:01 PM
. . . All Rare blue cars get sent to Rich for the Sprint Car conversion.

Bob...Just WING it...zilla

Now THAT is funny! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Rich ain't never gonna live that one down.

Hilltop Raceway
10-31-2008, 09:21 PM
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC04967.jpg


Amazing work Mr. B, amazing work, and that's all I got to say :thumbsup::thumbsup: ...RM

roadrner
11-01-2008, 06:47 AM
WoW! :eek: rr

tjd241
11-01-2008, 07:31 AM
... could stand on it's own (as is). Even if you didn't feel inclined to replace the school lunch tray between the fins, you'd have more or less one of these. Still pretty darn cool. :thumbsup: nd....

sethndaddy
11-01-2008, 08:44 AM
Bill your work ALWAYS amazes me, you really should charge a few bucks to do such great stuff for everyone.

tjd241
11-01-2008, 08:56 AM
Aw man... How'd I end up getting invoiced every month "Just fer look'n". nd

sethndaddy
11-01-2008, 09:59 AM
Aw man... How'd I end up getting invoiced every month "Just fer look'n". nd

I usually send slot car fodder as payment.

Bill Hall
11-01-2008, 01:34 PM
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/punkinbarf.jpg This image courtesy of Splitposter ;)

Bill your work ALWAYS amazes me, you really should charge a few bucks to do such great stuff for everyone.

Cash or high quality Aurora slotcar trash will move you up on the list.

Kinda works like this Ed. If yer just one of the regular schmoes who has been with me since day one and wants a car fixed I'll pinch ya for some lunch money, a handful of firecrackers, or some really busted up cars to replentish goop stock.

If yer a wheeler dealer of slots and ya think yer gonna swoop in, push my friends out of the way, move to the head of the line and get yer brown Mako cherried out fer 20 bux, then tell me how to do it and when you expect it back; well yer in for a surprise. Real world repairs are based on the market value of the car. I ball park both the values, broken and repaired. Then I split the difference, plus shipping and whatnot....and Oh yeah, almost fergot! It'll get done when it gets done.

The math works like this: yer broken car < a cherry car. If they dont like it then they can go hook up with one of the many other restorers who do seamless colormatched repairs that will fool yer mother. This policy weeds out a lot of the riff raff so I can stay on task.

The vast majority of repairs that cross my bench never make it into the pages of HT. I just pick a coupla interesting ones or those that belong to the gang and post them up for fun. Quite honestly there's no real money in restos. If there is a margin it is very thin, so anything that is rated a 2 or a 3, and requires more than a screw post fix or tacking a split A pillar back in place isnt really worth doing. By the time ya even get to things like airbrush/detail work or polishing yer already upside down on time. For that matter a 1 or a 0 is hardly worth it either because the owners are often looking for "fool Bob Beers perfection" fer low bux simply to fatten their own margin. Champagne taste on a beer budget as it were, with me gettin the grog.

So long as I cover costs, throwing a car er three in the mix from the HT gang now and then is no great shakes; and is purely a break even proposition. Giving a little back to my friends and the hobby that has given me so much pleasure helps keep my karma skookum and ensures that my dreams are pleasant.

SplitPoster
11-01-2008, 03:36 PM
Bill, Nice lesson in philososhy and math!

Slot car wheeler dealers and pawn shop tactics, oh my - as well stated in chat last night, ignorance is bliss! Wouldn't want that to infiltrate and infect my naive world of little cars.

That said, another great pictorial on AFX repairs! Got a Porsche 510 with a scrimped splitter, guess I can straighten it out and firm it up. I know those blue t jets or AFX's are throw aways for most folks, but I guess I'll hold on to mine...... just toss the boring black and grey ones, I suppose:hat:

roadrner
11-01-2008, 07:19 PM
Bill,
When you get a chance, can you post a pic of that Grand Am from the rear so we can see those fatties from the backside? Thanks! Dave


Still amazed everytime your pix showup. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

XracerHO
11-01-2008, 08:57 PM
Bill,
Appreciate the modeling education & techniques provide by this thread and am always amazed by your work. :thumbsup: ..RL

Bill Hall
11-05-2008, 02:08 PM
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC05041.jpg

Here's the Grand Am rear shot requested by rr.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC05049.jpg

Ordinarily on t-jets the buffing procees is completed with the windsheild out. we're gonna change things up on Bob's Grand Am. The pillar is quite long and very delicate. Of equal concern is the rather large front windsheild opening. Basically it's a big hole for the buffer to fall into or snag on. By having the glass in place the risk of snagging or flinging the body while buffing is limited.

Around here we just use a drop or two of goop to re-secure the insert. Once dried you can smear it with a hot iron and it appears factory.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC05052.jpg

Ever untangled one of these lil bastages from the back of your wifes neck?

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC05046.jpg

After a few minutes on my cheapskate lathe the jewelry clasp becomes a nice headlamp bucket.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC05045.jpg

Soldering them to the previously fabbed brackets proved to be not so bad. I managed to get them solidly affixed, somewhat straight ...and didnt melt the whole front end down. Turns out I even had time to sculpt the hood and cowl seams.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC05047.jpg

While I was at it a detail seam was cut into the roof.

Bill Hall
11-05-2008, 02:28 PM
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC05042.jpg

Thanx to uther Joe's help the chassis for the deuce was quickly lit.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC05053.jpg

An acrylic lens was cut from rod stock to fit the headlamp bucket. Only takes five er ten minutes once ya figure out how. The rear of the lens is shaped and polished in the cordless, then it is cut from the stock and the face is planed.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC05054.jpg

Test fire shown here using a FO whip with the twilight camera setting.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC05055.jpg

Same shot in daylight. So far so good....'cept I flinched!

coach61
11-05-2008, 04:19 PM
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/modelmurdering/DSC05055.jpg

Same shot in daylight. So far so good....'cept I flinched!

Excuse me sir. I pulled you over because you have a light out....Liscense, resgitartion and insurance please.........please step out the car sir...place your hands on the trunk lid, thank you.. please place your left hand behind your back.. click....to tight? too bad criminal....


Dave

WesJY
11-05-2008, 07:09 PM
bill - you the master!! we will have to bow down before you!!!! SLOTCAR GODS LOL..

Awesome work man !! those headlights looks so real! just plain awesome!! :thumbsup:

Wes

joez870
11-05-2008, 07:10 PM
Boy, you sure have been busy, Bill!
Sweet repair on Bob...look what I gots...zillas GrandAm! He is the first guy that I know who even owns one. heh!

The yellow rod is coming along quite nicely to boot! Hi5s on getting the project moving forward again...with lamps no less! :thumbsup:

slotcarman12078
11-05-2008, 07:15 PM
WOW!!! Machined brass headlights look super!!!! :thumbsup: Was that fired off the LED?? Unreal!!! Bill, are you having a problem with the LED dimming at lower power, or does it stay bright from the second you hit the controller?? It should be lit down to a crawl.. Nice job puttin her panty lines in too!! Fantastic work!!!!!! I'm stunned!! :freak:


UtherJoe

Bill Hall
11-05-2008, 07:28 PM
Excuse me sir. I pulled you over because you have a light out....Liscense, resgitartion and insurance please.........please step out the car sir...place your hands on the trunk lid, thank you.. please place your left hand behind your back.. click....to tight? too bad criminal....


Dave

You pulled me over cuz yer mad that yer crispy creme stock tanked...so see ya in court fatso... one of today's pinko liberal judges will let me slide with a warning or at least cut my fine in half.

Dollars to doughnuts sez making you waddle on down to the courthouse will spare some pasteries life ...

Bill Hall
11-05-2008, 08:11 PM
Wes: Aw sheesh, I'm blushin'. I just try to keep up with everyone else's cool builds; which is no small feat. Every week someone raises the bar in customs up another notch!

Joez: Yeah I dont do much AFX stuff, but I couldnt pass up the best of the Grand Ams...well that and and I owed Bobzilla a flavor anyway. Bringing a "one" back to display quality is something I'm happy to do.

As for the deuce, We coulda called this yellow pup done but I always felt she had more to give. Naturally my tastes as well as my techniques and tricks have changed since I started the build....over a year ago. I guess I just had to wait for the hands to catch up with the mind. :p

Ujoe: No problems with the LED's dropping off. Yes that lens is fired off the LED/optics manifold! The whips are still all long, squiggly, and havent been pared back yet. This time around I'm using the insulation from wire as a sheath to protect the optic fiber. The optic manifold design has changed subtly too....forgot to snap a pic though. Just some R&D fudgery to test the lens design and see how it performed. With any luck these will throw a proper beam. We're still quite aways from completion with some trunk seam corrections, a re-spray, installation of glass with a cockpit block off panel, and final optics rigging to go. I may even have the front assembly chromed if it's possible. Somethings happen very fast around here, "Completion" not being one. LOL!

coach61
11-05-2008, 09:48 PM
You pulled me over cuz yer mad that yer crispy creme stock tanked...so see ya in court fatso... one of today's pinko liberal judges will let me slide with a warning or at least cut my fine in half.

Dollars to doughnuts sez making you waddle on down to the courthouse will spare some pasteries life ...

I kind of thought you'd try some of that liberal carp on me.. "hey boss, turn off the video and hand me that old hickory night stick..."

bobhch
11-05-2008, 10:08 PM
Bill,

Bill said,"jewelry clasp becomes a nice headlamp bucket"....

INCREDIBLE....mr. cheapskate lathe man! Not in a Kazillion years would I have ever thought of those clasp beeing made into headlight holders. :):) Hey how about the metal ends off the CHEAP pens for future builds? :confused: (just a thought)...not trying to be pushy...lol

Your yellow looks great! Coach give Bill a break man...You law inforcement type are always so by the book. Har...loosen up the cuffs at least!

Bob...great Grand Am save...zilla

resinmonger
11-06-2008, 12:17 AM
Coach, we need you here to keep an eye (or hickory stick) on that Mel Gibson guy. :drunk::hat::freak::dude:

PD2
11-06-2008, 07:51 AM
McGuyver ain't got nothin on Mr. Hall! Wow! If you can custom cars out of jewelry clasps, can you imagine what you could come up with for 1:1 cars?!?

Fantastic work Bill! That hot rod looks great! Fantastic work as always!

PD2:thumbsup:

tjd241
11-06-2008, 08:39 AM
Nice job puttin her panty lines in too!! UtherJoe

"Hear, Hear" !!! ......... Definitely a plus to the overall look. AND... I even like the lamps unlit. They provide a certain balance on the front end that really "fills the bill" (no pun intended). nd