Nice job Mr. B ! I like all dem , dare cars !Please say it ain't so that you be leavin off for awhile ? !

No, no, just leaving off on the Willys for a while Tracey. I will be ruining little cars at the regular rate.

This body has had both screw posts repaired, the hood scrap ...er...scoop snifed and filled, a dummy dash filler panel installed, the headache rack/parade shelf added, and full rear skirts installed. That's roughly half a jug of Testors, which is enough to melt an entire t-jet into soup when properly prepared.

I'll pick it back up in a week or three when it can be handled again and resume fiddling with details corrective skims, and wet sanding.

No, no, just leaving off on the Willys for a while Tracey. I will be ruining little cars at the regular rate.

This body has had both screw posts repaired, the hood scrap ...er...scoop snifed and filled, a dummy dash filler panel installed, the headache rack/parade shelf added, and full rear skirts installed. That's roughly half a jug of Testors, which is enough to melt an entire t-jet into soup when properly prepared.

I'll pick it back up in a week or three when it can be handled again and resume fiddling with details corrective skims, and wet sanding.

Cool Cause I love this thread ! :thumbsup::woohoo:

like Bobzilla always sez..."It's a good time to walk away".

Bill,

I have been doing this (walking away) to the Ed Convertible for a while now...Phssssssssssssssh paint...oh dang...Pine Sol drop...Phssssssssssssssssssssh...again, again...I think this is the third time n :cry: w. I walk away and come back the next day....Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! It is gonna be a kewl fun ride when it comes out right...Purple with Yeller up front. :)

Love that red vertible and those Chargers Too. You dah man and it is fun to watch you G :)...G :)...G :)

Greg Gipe is one of the Coolest slot car guys around. Have gotten tons of Kewl slot car Resin bodys from him and they ROCK! He does a style shuffle like nobody else and makes cars & bodies for everyones tast.

If Eds Convertible ever turns out I will post pics of it. :cry: Can someone please say a Ritual Chant to UNDO the Voodoo that is on this slot car pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese!

Bob...Love the interior on that also Bill...zilla

Glad to see the way sweet Charger going to Dr. Gipe (Doctor of Resinology awarded by the University of Appreciative Hutts). He has hooked me up with some major sweetness in Ferrari and Can-Am flavors. Saving my soda cans (Hutts truely LIVE on soda) so I can make another purchase of yummy resin goodness. :freak::dude:

Can someone please say a Ritual Chant to UNDO the Voodoo that is on this slot car

It's called "The Cure of Five" and it works. You must start by repeating each of these 5 lines one at a time, one after the next, slowly, clearly, AND stretched out. Then start saying them over again faster and faster and faster each time as you go.... That should remove the curse. :thumbsup: nd

1) oohhhhhhhh

2) wattaaaaaa

3) guuuuuuuuu

4) siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

5) aaaaaaaamm

Any idea how old "Oh what a goose I am " is? LOL ! As old as me at least :thumbsup:

If that don't work, try this one:
1. cnd
2. it
3. 2
4. rn
5. d
:p:p:p
I'm sure you'll fix it Bob...take a kewl break and come back to it later...zilla. I break more than I work!!! RM

Yet again I am astounded with the creativity and skills on HT!! I'm not getting anything done around here 'cause I'm reading all day!!! Just when I think I'm getting caught up with all the threads, I find 30 more!! Bill, your work is awesome and I'm greatful to be able to see the magic you do, and even better, actually get to see how it's done!! My biggest regret is not finding this place sooner!! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Yet again I am astounded with the creativity and skills on HT!! I'm not getting anything done around here 'cause I'm reading all day!!! Just when I think I'm getting caught up with all the threads, I find 30 more!! Bill, your work is awesome and I'm greatful to be able to see the magic you do, and even better, actually get to see how it's done!! My biggest regret is not finding this place sooner!! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Slotcarman !
Hey reading the boards here is just about as addictive as collecting those darn little HO scale slot rockets ! You just can't ever get enough LOL .
Don't forget our Wednesday night chat.
:wave:

Bill the charger looks great,i have perfect original chrome and glass that will match very nicely with what youve made her into,thanks again for all your work...i have some stuff for you,i just cant bring myself to ask for you address yet again.Bob...too kind zilla,and MR. Hutt thank you,Ive been in a bit of a slump,finding it hard to get things done,your posts gave me a nice shot of adrenalin....
regards, greg

Bill the charger looks great,i have perfect original chrome and glass that will match very nicely with what youve made her into,thanks again for all your work...i have some stuff for you,i just cant bring myself to ask for you address yet again.Bob...too kind zilla,and MR. Hutt thank you,Ive been in a bit of a slump,finding it hard to get things done,your posts gave me a nice shot of adrenalin....
regards, greg

Hint: Addy will be on the box Greg! :p

I always figure that the transitions between slumps and devine insipration are part of the game Greg. I ride whichever one comes around at the time 'til it changes. Now days I fully expect inspiration to end in slump and vice versa. Fortunatly someone here always provides inspiration when I'm draggin butt. :thumbsup:

Sometimes if I'm really high centered I'll jumpstart my attitude and buy a Street Rodder er Old Skool Rodz to get my mind right again. ;)

Bob, if you count the 3 times I screwed up that car, that makes 6.

Here's some before and after fun of the two slate 'Vettes

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The corrected wells and rockers recieved their final buff.

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Both the missing front quarter nibblet and roof graft have cured out and they to recieved their final rub. If you've been following along since the git go this is the end of the 3 to make 2 slate 'Vette project. Slate blue is a fun color to work with. Blends with a minimum of fuss and rubs out nicely.

Bob, if you count the 3 times I screwed up that car, that makes 6.

Ed,

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah OMG.......well it took paint tonight good friend. Wheeeeeeew that was one tough Cookie. Man those chants worked guys. Duck, duck, duck...Goosie

Bill,

Almost didn't catch your post as we were in here at the same time man. Nice Vette work. Those wheel wells look weller now.

Greg,

Sounds like you need some nights out with Family & Friends for Steak Dinner and a Movie! Relax and just enjoy life a bit because, you never know when a HUGE Piano is gonna drop from the sky and land on yah...Yikes!

Hey that would make a Kewl slot car...Piano or I beam smashed on a car just like Tool Time with the Nomad. :)

Bob...still need to Phssssssh the front for a 2-tone Job and detail it out...zilla

Bill, the repairmeister, hits two more home runs! Dude, why aren't you in the playoffs? Oh, yeah, that's baseball. Anywho, very nice work on display. Painting is hard enough to manage. But you've got the whole goop/splice/dice/meld/weld thing going on full tilt. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Now slate blue is my second favorite color (after gulf blue). :freak::dude:

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Here's an in and out on an old cobra thats been in the shoebox of death for a while. One rear well has a half hearted attempt at repair. the other is still in it's originally butchered state. Other than the obvious whats really wrong here is that the repair was done in the compost pile rather than under the clean conditions required to execute a proper goop repair. So first things first we'll get this old girl cleaned up before we even crack a jug of goop.

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Big boy and little boy are two of my favorite whizzer bits. Middle of the road coarse grit, they are great for roughing stuff around and removing things that should have never been. Of the two the lil one is virtually indespensible. It goes in most all the crannies.

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Pin vise the windsheild nibs. In this case we went oversize so all traces will be removed. We dont want any residual particals screwing up the fills.

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I've got have a dozen different dental picks with all kinds of scary tips on them. This one is the one I use for dressing and defining seams. Just picking Mr Sloppy's poo out of the door seam.

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Snifing the bumpers out takes more patience than pressure. With a sharp blade and a few wiggles the buttons come right off. I keep two different handles at all times. one with a # 2 and the other with some form of gouge.
Using the right one for the right application makes life easy.

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While I'm at it any post damage is cut back to a point where the meat is good and viable parent material remains to hang a graft on. I just get it over with and buzz them out. They get handfiled at the time of the graft to ensure perfect fit. This way the power tools go away when it's time to start the more delicate body work.

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All glue spew, droolage, staining and lord knows what else is wet sanded off the body. I generally knock clods and wads as well as mold lines off with 320 and chase it after words with 600. No need to sand stuff that doesnt need it. For the last step of this phase the body is scrubbed with a rouge made from kitchen cleanser and just enough water to mix it up. Then I scrub the "everlovin' you know what out of it" with a stiff toothbrush.

Elapsed time is generally about an hour for clean up. Now we can see what we really have and can touch it without having antibiotics on hand.:p

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While we had the buffer out the "poiple chahga" got it's roof shined up. The reflection you see is the light bulb of my bench lamp.

About as close as I can come to the original finish. This is Duplicolor black lacquer applied with an airbrush at extremely low volume. Takes about ten passes to get a good enough build to with stand a three stage polish.

Still got a little pickin' on the A pillars to remove over spray, but I'm pretty happy with the finish match.

Bill you never fail to silence me with your work.. a lot of guys do that on this board. we truely do benifit from your greatness.. now do you think you can graft up the Economy? I may have to get a real job as I am taking a kicking on my Ret money.. hmm grind out all goverment.. goop in a few mom and pops....lol...


Dave

The Gooopster working his magic, sensational!!! Thanks for sharing some of the tricks and techniques, I'm watching and listening!!! RM

Still in awe from the willis chop top!! I would'a canned the cobra thinking it was a total loss....until I saw it cleaned up!! It is truly a labor of love that goes into salvaging these cars. Keep up the geat work!!!:thumbsup:

I bow to Mr. Hall's Supreme awesomeness ! Honestly you worked for Aurora didn't you? LOL

Bill H where did you get your dental pics from ? I am going to get some but don't know where to look . There used to be a company called Micro tool or something like that? Any one know if they are still out there. I'm gonna try my hand at doing the repairs, that Mr. Bill has my creative juices flowing so I can't resist anymore. SO LMK OK?

bill - you the master!!!

Wes

Bill,

See the light bulb, I can see the filament in the reflection in the roof of your fabulous purple Charger. Must be nice to cruise that Red Willy's Roadster around the Track. :thumbsup:

Thanks for the advice on the Faller Plastic, just left the mint Ford 17M after the testing on a beater body did not work.

As others have stated keep the magic coming in restorataions and customs including the tips & techniques which encourage us to stretch our hobby abilities! ...RL

Bill,

See the light bulb, I can see the filament in the reflection in the roof of your fabulous purple Charger. Must be nice to cruise that Red Willy's Roadster around the Track. :thumbsup:

Thanks for the advice on the Faller Plastic, just left the mint Ford 17M after the testing on a beater body did not work.

As others have stated keep the magic coming in restorataions and customs including the tips & techniques which encourage us to stretch our hobby abilities! ...RL


Thanx RL,

Whew! Glad to hear ya didnt dive right in on that Ford! Often the best repair is the one ya didnt do. :thumbsup:

bill - you the master!!!

Wes

What Wes said...Ummmmmmmmmmm Purple Charger...YEAH!

I joined the Bill Hall Goopster Fan Club but, have not recieved my membership card yet? :confused:

Just picking Mr Sloppy's poo out of the door seam. Now that is funny stuff. LOL See I read your post also Bill. :)

Bob...send the card already...zilla

Man I hope it's not too late to join!!! What are the dues, broken slotcar bodies??? Don't ya'll meet on Wednesday and Friday nights weekly??? Sign me up, sign me up!!! RM

Bill- That purple charger is unbelievable. I don't have the patience to do 10 passes on the roof, but I can see it is definately worth it.
I am working on a Cobra restore as well, but I am so far behind your skill level. Still my favorite thing to do is bring back the dead. slot cars that is.
Jim

Bill- That purple charger is unbelievable. I don't have the patience to do 10 passes on the roof, but I can see it is definately worth it.
I am working on a Cobra restore as well, but I am so far behind your skill level. Still my favorite thing to do is bring back the dead. slot cars that is.
Jim

Thanx Jim, 10 passes doesnt really take long, especially at low fluid volume. I pound two er three passes down at five or ten minute intervals for flash time.

Takes me longer to mask the 'lil bugger and clean up my gear. :freak:

...and Jim... yer skill level is the same ...all I have on you is more reps. Some where along the line YOU begin to control the plastic instead of it controlling YOU. Took me well over a year of steady experimantation to get comfortable with it.

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SJ Racer built this tank and sent it in for a little minor work. So here's the tank upgrade after some goop touchups. The yellow barrel is crammed in there to support the spoiler from sagging while it cures. USPS used the package for the punt, pass, and kick competition. A very nifty build! We'll round out the rear ....gulp....wheel wells for some clearance and call her good.

This old toro has been rattling around in the shoebox for about three years now. I finally dug her out and scrubbed her down for inspection. We did a couple of Toronados for Win last year so the a-pillar learning curve is long past. This one SHOULD be gravy as the pillars arent broken out down in the door /cowl area.

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I dumped out my bag of green carcasses and nearly used this old charger clip as a donor. I thought better of it knowing full well that a green charger would come in soon needing pillars ....LOL

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Plan B is always scratch build when the material is available. Here's the back of an old vibe controller squared up and scribed.

So after a few deep scribes I just bust the raw material free with the noodle knees pliers. Scribe and snap, or snipping with the dykes is much preferrable to slagging things up with the dremel or saw. Once you get the hang of it it's a hundred times faster too!

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So now ya have enough green A-pillar stock to last a while.

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Occasionally I'll digress and put a starter skim on some of the other damage. In this case the wells get their first goop. It'll be set up enough to handle by the time I get the pillars roughed out and they are down and away from the work area anyway. The blue tape is to protect the screwpost from my sanding pencil.

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All grafts should be filed for a good tight fit. Neatness counts here and the extra effort to keep things straight and square pays off later.

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Ya gotta watch out for things like this lil nubbin. It'll screw ya up when your trying to pull the skim from the pillar and try to blend it into the drip rail or roof.

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Here's the easy way to plane material down to thickness...takes only seconds...sometimes ya take a few thousandths off your finger 'til ya get warmed up!

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The A-pillar chiclet is filed for a snug fit. Ideally you'll want it to be lightly pinched in place by the roof. This is also a good time to double check the windshield opening measurment.

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Drivers side required a little whip to be left on the graft to fill a void in the side window drip rail. Note that the graft is quickly thinned in width by plunging it with the gouge. I just bend the little whip into shape with a gentle poke of the finger.

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The graft is attached with a thin mix of green goop. By using a little goop thinned out it gives you a few more seconds to fidget things into place. Pretty dont count here....ya just want it straight. This is about the time I usually set things aside for a few minutes and pick up all my tools and carp. Its a good time to fall back and re-organize.

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After all my toys are put away the grafts are stable enough for the first skim of filler. Here's the first pass across the pillar and up into the drip rail. Had we not left the little whip on the graft there would be a void in the rail that would have to be chased. Here's where we walk away and pick up some other car for a while.

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Pretty much just the same on the other side. Pillars dont always come off neatly when they break, so like the other side the repair is pulled/blended well beyond the break. this ensures that you have enough material on hand when it's time to start filing.

Bill,

Aaaaaaaaah even a little green Alien is lurking in this Green segment.

This is so way better than anything that is on T.V. Thanks again for taking all the Kewl pics of your build ups with goop Bill. That Toronado is gonna look pretty. :D

Bob...that tank is Awesum...zilla

Bill- Thanks for the tutorial. I am anxious to see the drip rail work. I can get it to the graft and gooped stage pretty good, then the more I try to detail, the more I mess it up.
I gotta visit the dentist and walk away with some of those awesome tools!
Jim

Love these tutorials!! I can't get enough of them!!! Bill Hall for President!!! You got my vote!!! :thumbsup:

Bill- Thanks for the tutorial. I am anxious to see the drip rail work. I can get it to the graft and gooped stage pretty good, then the more I try to detail, the more I mess it up.
I gotta visit the dentist and walk away with some of those awesome tools!
Jim

The aurora restoration guide was in black and white pictograms! It leaves an awful lot to the imagination. :freak: There's always a lot of resto work on my bench so once in a while I like to slow it down snap a few detailed pix and explain things frame by frame.

Yes! Scott had inquired where I get my picks, gouges, and scribes....Why the dentist of course! Ole Doc Hackney (great name for a dentist!...LOL) has a drawer full of used instruments of torture. As long as I promise not to clean my own teeth Dr. Bob lets me rummage to my hearts content. :thumbsup:



...For the record Jim, I screw up on every car I do! I just try to always minimize the dammage and develope the corrections necessary to get me back to even.

Bill- Thanks for the comforting thoughts! I'll remember that on the next restore!
Jim

Sometimes Gus and I stay up late. The urge to murder a model is always stronger around the full moon. The chassis for this project has been around for a coupla years and reflects my earlier brass experiments. This one runs wheelie pickups. In this build we really didnt do much except shuffle some "already haves" around 'til it clicked.

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Most times I just butch the nose off hapless model A's and plop some modified chrome blob in the void. All good fun but this time Gus was giving me that "one trick pony look".

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Another thing on my list of wants was a flat head mill. The specimen shown/used is from a Revel diecast t-bucket. The bonus being a nifty rack of 97's.

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Part of my attitude problem has been the desire to keep at least some of the hood intact and retain the radiator mount and location. It's a bit of a cram to get it all under the hood and some liberties were taken with the Revel flathead for fit. The chassis was pared back as far as you can go without having the front magnet fall out.

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Cutting a hole in the hood wasnt part of the original idea but when do things ever work out as planned?

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This one just kinda fell together cuz it was there. Cant say that this will be the final configuration; but for now it wheel stands, rips down the track, and looks pretty decent for a scrap box mock up. If anything perhaps a lid chop, but the hi-hat look is kinda vintage... maybe a kegger type fuel tank to flesh out the front a bit....just havent found the right one ....yet! ;)

damn.. that's cool!

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Is it just me, or does anyone else think it looks like Gus is eyeballing the alignment on the front end . . . looking for a tell-tale tire not touching the track . . . ? :tongue:

Better crack a window Bill, I think the fumes are affecting the family pets now too :lol:

:thumbsup:That is wicked cool!! Mello yellow it's not!!! Super job!!!:thumbsup:

AWESOME RAT ROD CAR MAN!!!!! LOVE IT!!!!

Wes

Bill, you ever race these? That looks like a great drag race car.

Rich

That cat's looking for lunch!!! My My My, love these Hot Rods you build!!! Awesom stuff!!! Thanks for the build pics also!!! One of these days, I'll get my courage up to try some goop. Fantastic...RM

That cat's looking for lunch!!! My My My, love these Hot Rods you build!!! Awesom stuff!!! Thanks for the build pics also!!! One of these days, I'll get my courage up to try some goop. Fantastic...RM


Mr. One of these days...Hilltop,

Once you goop you can't stop. Have not tried the tough stuff yet but, some day I will. Still in a painting stage I guess but, painting with plastic is definitely gonna happen for me...one of these days! :woohoo:

Bill,

Gus is in awe, as we all are, of that fine Y E L L :) W Model A.

Bob...Thanks Bill for sharing your behind the scenes how to do it pictures...zilla

darn, the last two builds make great bedtime stories - the kind with a moral and a happy ending! Hehe, is this the ugly duckling who becomes a swan, or another Bill "Horatio Alger" rags to riches story! What a great read, though I'd keep my eye on that cat :=) looks like he's plottin' somethin'...

Bill, you ever race these? That looks like a great drag race car.

Rich

Not really Rich. I do run them and run'em hard, but usually by themselves.
These brass rats are plenty tough; but given the time that it takes to make one I try not abuse them beyond exhibition runs for the grandyuns and friends. While they have an extended wheel base the guide pin remains close to the standard location so they will navigate a 9" radius with ease and motor through a road course no problemo.

I run a few hot laps and park them before the cops show up. ;)

darn, the last two builds make great bedtime stories - the kind with a moral and a happy ending! Hehe, is this the ugly duckling who becomes a swan, or another Bill "Horatio Alger" rags to riches story! What a great read, though I'd keep my eye on that cat :=) looks like he's plottin' somethin'...

Thanx fer noticin' Jeff. Been trying to keep it interesting and "show" it as it is done rather than after the fact. More pix and less blah blah allows the camera to tell the story.