The Summit Area Radio Cars club will be organizing both road course and oval parking lot racing this summer on Sundays in the parking lot behind Atomic Hobbies 1010 W. Coliseum Blvd. The track will be a combo oval/roadcourse. Track will open at 10:00 with racing starting at noon. Bring your own tables, Ez-ups and extensions cords. AMB scoring is provided. Personal transponders are encouraged. All racing is weather permitting. If there is a chance of rain, we will head over to the carpet track at Summit Raceway and race on a combo oval/roadcourse.

Suggested classes include:

Road Course
Vintage Trans-Am
Touring Stock
Pro-10 200mm pan cars
Stock 1/18 minis and Recoils

Oval
Legends
Sprint Cars
Mini-sliders and Recoils

Dates: April 27, May 4, May 18, June 15, June 29, July 13, July 27 and Aug. 3

We are trying to organize a special race at the car show at IPFW on May 18. I will have more info as we get things finalized.

John Kissel
dodge_by_petty@yahoo.com

Sounds like fun. I'm in...

Steve Dunn

Check out the season flyer by clicking HERE. (http://summitrcraceway.com/pdf/SARCsummer.pdf)

anyone interested in checking this out shouldnt hesitate. I ran on it a time or 2 last year when it was still in the works, and I was blown away. Good, reativly smooth serface, with better traction than anticipated. I will not miss a week of this! Sign me up for VTA and stock TC

I know that there has been alot of discussion about the Vintage Trans Am battery/motor rules. After much testing and discussion the battery/motor rules for Vintage Trans Am this summer will be as follows:

4 cell nimh stock brushed or 17.5 brushless
6 cell or lipo with a mabuci closed endbell motor

Gearing is unlimited on everything.

John

Can someone post a link (on tower hobbies) to what exactly the Mabuchi motor is? I assume that for the Vintage Trans Am series that you still will have to use the HPI vintage wheel/tire combo?

This would work for you....

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXPML4&P=7

It's what I use and it's great. I run a fan and gear "responsibly" and it's surprisingly good.

Vintage wheels and tires are rquired.
26mm 0mm offset FOR THE FRONT
31mm 6mm offset FOR THE REAR

Lot's of fun dude, hope to see you.

Ben

Or this one also...
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGGA8&P=7

It's a Johnson motor, but it is what comes standard in a lot of the Tamiya kits also. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think either would be legal. Both are 'closed endbell' stock motors.

That motor would count as well. The black canned "Super Sport" will not be legal.

Ben

If you guys are going to go down the dark path of Mabuchi, you'd better beware of the evils that lie within... There is untold dark magic in making these motors faster. And there's a thread on R/C Tech... But make sure you know the difference between the Mabuchi 540, the Johnson 540 (both of which are TCS legal), and this duratrax abomination that looks like the other two once you peel the sticker off, but is significantly faster. Might I suggest community motors (with a 1 time buy in fee) with a random grab bag drawing at the beginning of the day and then they are handed back in at the end of the day? Good luck.

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Thanks for making that public knowledge Sean....
We laid the basic grounds and hope we can all have a great time inside those parameters. We want as little legislation as possible and I'm sure people appreciate that. If somethings obviously amiss, we'll take a closer look at what's going on. We're looking for fun racing. The silver can was used because it's still commonly included with some RTR kits and anything entry level that's Tamiya. Throw in a Venom 3000mah pack for $18, and your equiptment is more capable then most people realize.

We'll get back to cut-throat racing in the fall.

Ben

Thanks for making that public knowledge Sean....
We laid the basic grounds and hope we can all have a great time inside those parameters. We want as little legislation as possible and I'm sure people appreciate that. If somethings obviously amiss, we'll take a closer look at what's going on. We're looking for fun racing. The silver can was used because it's still commonly included with some RTR kits and anything entry level that's Tamiya. Throw in a Venom 3000mah pack for $18, and your equiptment is more capable then most people realize.

We'll get back to cut-throat racing in the fall.

Ben


Gee's thats a little harsh..Ben....Sean has a great idea there...Couple that w/doing the same w/batts and you have a hell of a class....If you think for an instant that this class wont turn into "cut-throat racing:rolleyes:" your mistaken...Imagine a one time fee for the series and that covers batt and motor and you can reshuffle the packs and motors if you wanted....I am sure there would be enough donations of cells to cover...:wave:

Anyone have any good sticker remover i could borrow :)

Anyone have any good sticker remover i could borrow :)

Hold on and let me get this motor out of this cup of water and turn of my zapper and I will see if I have any left........:thumbsup:

I know that there has been alot of discussion about the Vintage Trans Am battery/motor rules. After much testing and discussion the battery/motor rules for Vintage Trans Am this summer will be as follows:

4 cell nimh stock brushed or 17.5 brushless
6 cell or lipo with a mabuci closed endbell motor

Gearing is unlimited on everything.

John


why not 4cell w/mabuci motor.......Have a one time fee lets call it club dues and provide the motor and packs and we can reshuffle packs and motors if you want during the day and any new comers we can make it a small rental fee for them to participate.....Should eliminate all confusion and that way ken doesnt have to haul of MTM(MillerTimeMotorsports) to the track.:wave: MY2CENTS>>>

We want to keep this as simple as operation as possible. As it stands, we have to go get the track stuff, computer, ect, haul it over to Atomic, set it up, run the show, then tear down and take it all back. That's a decent amount of work for two guys, then to throw in motor and battery check in and out, not knowing how many people will be there over the course of the summer.... Let's just get it started, hopefully it'll bloom into something great, then the sky's the limit.

Ben

It was just a thought.....on a lighter note my VTA is ready...bustin out the shaft drive TC4.....

Ben, if your buyin the breakfast I will try to be early to give a hand.....

Ben, if your buyin the breakfast I will try to be early to give a hand.....

I might take you up on that.

Ben

Ben and Steve.....breakfast
guess it saves steve a hotel bill ;)

Yeah, but Mitch might get jealous.

Yeah, but Mitch might get jealous.


LMFAO!!!

Yeah, but Mitch might get jealous.

Everyone has a price...:cool:

Everyone has a price...:cool:I certainly agree!! :thumbsup:

-Sean


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I certainly agree!! :thumbsup:

-Sean


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I will take the one in the middle......:)......There is really no need to resond to the other obviously ridiculous post's in which you slander my good name in attempts to question my sexuality and make homophobic remarks to imply that I would ever due any such things for a breakfest or a place to stay is simply not true....:rolleyes:

DUDE...15 more posts man and I am in the 4:20 club....:dude:....Anyone seen my bag of chips......:drunk:

I will take the one in the middle......:)...Steve, I'm sure you do realize that ALL of those beers are the same, so picking one is pretty idiotic...:confused: ...and I'm sure those girls would let you have two??

-Sean

yes but whats behind those beer's is what i was refering to....

yes but whats behind those beer's is what i was refering to....Ahh! You mean the buzz? :thumbsup:

-Sean

Where's the Ashley pics at......A little less clothing please:freak: she was a true beer goddess:woohoo:

you think she would come watch us run some VTA....

Where's the Ashley pics at......A little less clothing please:freak: she was a true beer goddess:woohoo:

Sean... you didn't tell them about 'her' did you:p

what about some Pan car Oval Racing some of us Pan Car guys have Asphalt cars to..

what about some Pan car Oval Racing some of us Pan Car guys have Asphalt cars to..

If you can bring some dudes with you to make a class, everyone is welcome. More the merrier... More is good, right Sean?

Ben

More the merrier... More is good, right Sean?

BenToo much is never enough!:thumbsup:

Are you guys looking at buying silver cans in bulk to get a discount? I might be interested...

Ben, have you thought about mini on the asphalt? They're a blast!

-Sean

Too much is never enough!:thumbsup:

Are you guys looking at buying silver cans in bulk to get a discount? I might be interested...

Ben, have you thought about mini on the asphalt? They're a blast!

-Sean



I think John already has a bulk of those motors, propbly original production run :)

Too much is never enough!:thumbsup:

Are you guys looking at buying silver cans in bulk to get a discount? I might be interested...

Ben, have you thought about mini on the asphalt? They're a blast!

-Sean



I don't think so. If we have a wave of people wanting to do it, I'm sure something could get worked out. From what I'm thinking, right now most people are going to fall into the 17.5/27t 4 cell, including me. We'll just have to wait and see.

Ben

I am bringin my minni cooper.....

Is this what the Atomic track will be like?

Yes, it will look like that if you have several pitchers of beer before racing not after.

We're planning a figure 8 with a loop-t-loop as well. Expect tons of traction.

Ben

Yes, it will look like that if you have several pitchers of beer before racing not after.

Hear that Sean, that sounds like an idea.

Here are some neat twist to VTA mains from the East Coast Shootout:
Rules : Current USVTA rules in effect

Race format: 3 qualifiers and main "re-sort" after 2nd qualifier

Awards : TQ, and "The Dirty Dozen" ( 12 Car A- Main).

All lower main winners, "Tail Gunner Award" (last car running in lowest main)

Top Junior (highest placed driver 14 or younger)

Here that Sean, that sounds like an idea.:rolleyes: As if I weren't already planning on it... :thumbsup:

-Sean

If you have a Trans Am class for your Car Show race in May, be sure to let us know. Maybe we can get some IL and WI guys to come down for some asphalt.:thumbsup:

This will be interesting.

If you have a Trans Am class for your Car Show race in May, be sure to let us know. Maybe we can get some IL and WI guys to come down for some asphalt.:thumbsup:

That would be cool if we could get something like that to happen. We're still working on logistics...

Ben

This Sunday is the season opener for parking lot racing. I've been working on some different track layouts and getting the vintage trans am car ready to go. Hope to see a lot of people there.

Had a great time racing yesterday. Vintage Trans Am is unbelievable on pavement. The cars were equally matched and the racing was great. Dirt tracking a car around the corners is pretty cool. Ben gets the cool move award for missing the spinning cars of me and Larry on the straightaway (by inches) and then driving straight into the grass.

Next race is May 4. We are changing the start time to 10:30 for track setup as it did not take that long to get it ready. We won't have a/c available until 12:00 when Atomic hobbies opens up.

I haven't laughed so hard racing in I don't know how long. Great times.

Ben