i have seen and heard of some questionable driving tactics in the mains over the last couple of years.

you would get a clean line under some of the best drivers out there and then they just take you to the boards.

they might use the words "it was just racing" but doesnt make it right

What i want to know is why a car that is running up hehind you can not use the brakes they just run rt thru you . Hi AL:wave:

Sorry, Alan...never had that happen. :rolleyes:

Its just racing guys!

What i want to know is why a car that is running up hehind you can not use the brakes they just run rt thru you . Hi AL:wave:

Because so many people have a "stock" mindset where they believe that the trigger must be pulled for the duration of the race. Many lack patience, finesse, and most of all...etiquette.

What i want to know is why a car that is running up hehind you can not use the brakes they just run rt thru you . Hi AL:wave:
You didnt here the horn Kenny?

OvalTrucker, "Frank Ulbrik", scott law, briano_72, Racin'Jason 8, JBRCells, Dan, oldtimer, Alan Behler

Lotta lookers on this one!

no one told you it was ok to hack all the time?... man I guess I need to appoligize to everyone from yrs ago - present, nah not my nature to do so. when in doubt takem out!!!!

OvalTrucker, "Frank Ulbrik", scott law, briano_72, Racin'Jason 8, JBRCells, Dan, oldtimer, Alan Behler

Lotta lookers on this one!

That's because everyone looking at it, has a big smile on his face,
and a mental picture of someone in his mind...
The old Banzai Blast..... :thumbsup:

no one told you it was ok to hack all the time?... man I guess I need to appoligize to everyone from yrs ago - present, nah not my nature to do so. when in doubt takem out!!!!

That's a perfectly acceptable response from an SK racer...lock the wheels and make 'em squeel! lol...J/K Kenny!

Recently in a 13.5 race, a driver was following me about 6' behind for several laps. He eventually got by me and at the end of the race asked why I did'nt get out of his way.
Well, for starters he was staying far enough behind me that I thought I was ok. Come to find out he was being very patient. I said [after the race] you should have said something. I knew he was there but I didn't feel any pressure to get out of his way. Had he communicated this to me during the race I could have easily let him by sooner.
Communication on the driver stand may be part of the issue here.

That's a perfectly acceptable response from an SK racer...lock the wheels and make 'em squeel!

eh some take it way to serious, I like to joke, something you cant do on HB its forbidden

I was always told to give them 2 or 3 turns then Earnhardt em.

Homer it is ok when its the a main of the snowbirds and the 3 laps in the guy running behind you (who is standing next to you) asks "is that you?" then spins you out. and says "ha ha see yah later chump" then it is OK.

Or it is the first qual at the birds and the guy who is running the same speed as you and is 5 ft back starts saying ok 17 car time to move. and after 2 mins he is still saying it but still not yet there. then when you catch traffic and get slowed up a little he wrecks both of yah. then it is ok to make his life miserable.

Or if you just don't like the guy.

eh some take it way to serious, I like to joke, something you cant do on HB its forbidden


Wait a minute...I'm the one who is kidding, right? I forgot to add the "lol", Snowbirds champ!

Recently in a 13.5 race, a driver was following me about 6' behind for several laps. He eventually got by me and at the end of the race asked why I did'nt get out of his way.
Well, for starters he was staying far enough behind me that I thought I was ok. Come to find out he was being very patient. I said [after the race] you should have said something. I knew he was there but I didn't feel any pressure to get out of his way. Had he communicated this to me during the race I could have easily let him by sooner.
Communication on the driver stand may be part of the issue here.

Ive had this problem, I think it depends if its a heat or the main, if its the main then dont think it really would be considered racing if you just pull over when someone catches you. Also think its very easy for the guy to blame you for not pulling over when they decide to drive through you, instead of waiting for a clean pass!! Appears that every rc track, people have the its ok to bump and run like bristol. Not really racing I dont think, kinda would call it wrecking.

oh yah I forgot it's ok to be a hack if your name is Mike Boylan.

i have seen and heard of some questionable driving tactics in the mains over the last couple of years.

you would get a clean line under some of the best drivers out there and then they just take you to the boards.

they might use the words "it was just racing" but doesnt make it right

Driver reputation is built on the good and not so good races we achieve over the years. Chances are you'll eventually get tailgate by the guy you hacked in the past .. you then deserve no different from that guy. You show respect, you get respect.

Steve.

IMO If I am faster than someone in the main, but behined them, I would give them about 3 laps and I would ask for them to move, or try to be patient enough to wait for them to mess up. If they don't get out of the way and it's noticeable that they are "blocking" I will give them the bump and run. Just my 2 cents.

IMO If I am faster than someone in the main, but behined them, I would give them about 3 laps and I would ask for them to move, or try to be patient enough to wait for them to mess up. If they don't get out of the way and it's noticeable that they are "blocking" I will give them the bump and run. Just my 2 cents.

Any guy delivering another driver intentionaly should get penalized. Problem is I've yet to meet a r/c race director that is willing or has the guts to penalize a racer for a bump and pass.

Steve.

Any guy delivering another driver intentionaly should get penalized. Problem is I've yet to meet a r/c race director that is willing or has the guts to penalize a racer for a bump and pass.

Steve.
Any any driver not knowing there talking about him should wake up! Justin

You see it all the time..... bump and runs, drivers getting frustrated and bumping someone else, i remember seeing it during a qualifier @ Maximus at one of the big events involving SK cars. Racer 1 didnt like how racer 2 was racing and racer one did a brake job and left turn right into racer 2 and took him out.

I am not saying go out there and hack, but you can give them a rub and squeek by....

You show respect, you get respect.

Steve.

:thumbsup:

I don't go along with knocking a guy out of the way in the main at all...
He owes you racing room, but not a "Freebie"... The biggest rush in racing
is to hound a guy (or be hounded) until you succeed (or fail) at the pass..
Once a guy gets by you, after hounding you for a while, and not doinking you,
you owe him the courtesy of not taking him out on the next corner.

In a qualifier, if a guy just plain does not let you go, he should lose a lap...
Either from the director, or the bumper...

I don't go along with knocking a guy out of the way in the main at all...
He owes you racing room, but not a "Freebie"... The biggest rush in racing
is to hound a guy (or be hounded) until you succeed (or fail) at the pass..
Once a guy gets by you, after hounding you for a while, and not doinking you,
you owe him the courtesy of not taking him out on the next corner.

In a qualifier, if a guy just plain does not let you go, he should lose a lap...
Either from the director, or the bumper...

Yep, I agree.

Steve.

IMO If I am faster than someone in the main, but behined them, I would give them about 3 laps and I would ask for them to move, or try to be patient enough to wait for them to mess up. If they don't get out of the way and it's noticeable that they are "blocking" I will give them the bump and run. Just my 2 cents.

I guess I was talking about you when I mentioned etiquette. :freak:

I agree, show respect, get respect. I believe that if it is for position, wether it's 1st or 5th, you have to earn your way by. A "bump and run" should be penalized in that case. On the other hand, if your a lapper, courtesy dictates you to let the leader by with little hasle. If the leader comes up on me, I swing wide in the next turn to let them by with as little holdup as possible.

Also, respect is not given to a racer just because they have been racing for a long time, you earn it by your actions on the track.

My 2 cents,
Brad

I guess I was talking about you when I mentioned etiquette. :freak:

Oh here we go!!!

Oh here we go!!!

That's it, Hanson...you're getting the bumper this weekend!

Don't Threaten Me With A GOODTIME!!! haha

The key word in all the posts on this thread should be 'intentional' bump passing.All of us have thought there was enough room to squeek by someone and been wrong at some point in time. Any intentional hacking should be penalized. This is racing , but its not a demo derby. The problem is how do you prove intentional? It's one thing if its a driver that is notorious for taking people out , but every crash or rub can be construed as intentional by one of the 2 people involved.

Communication on the stand goes a long way. How you handle the guy when he says "NO" is what makes you the kind of racer that you are. lol.

Communication on the stand goes a long way. How you handle the guy when he says "NO" is what makes you the kind of racer that you are. lol.

:thumbsup: ... I owe you a soda my friend.

Steve.

I agree With what steve said

Any guy delivering another driver intentionaly should get penalized. Problem is I've yet to meet a r/c race director that is willing or has the guts to penalize a racer for a bump and pass.

Steve. Penalize . Just need to find a good r/c director to do this

Wait a minute...I'm the one who is kidding, right? I forgot to add the "lol", Snowbirds chump!

I like snowbirds Chump if you dont mind.... I fixed it for ya,,

Penalize . Just need to find a good r/c director to do this

ken b said penal ize lol I am proud of you oldtimer you actually spelled something right, lol

Really, how does one define a bump and run? I'm not discounting any of the comments, but I've driven on tracks, been race director at many events, been the one bumping and running, and been the one bumped and ran by...I seriously don't understand, except for one specific race that I can't mention, how a person definitively accuses another of 'hacking'.

That's not to say there isn't definite hacking going on, but it's difficult to accuse someone of it. Just a couple weeks ago, I accused myself of bumping way too many people, but...then I looked back on the race and realized I either could have stayed 12ft behind him and never passed him or I could run my car into the corner and watch him try and take the line back, which usually involved a wreck. I guess what I'm getting at, who is right?

Driver A (behind Driver B): I stuck my nose in there and you tried to take the line back.

Driver B: I had the line, unless you can pass me in that corner and not just 'get your nose in there', I'm not letting you by.

Race Director: I think both of you wanted the line, but I can't determine which one had it at the point of impact.

I'm not sure I can even explain it, there are so many variables. It's not the same thing as driving a real car...the fact that you won't physically get hurt by bumping someone puts people in a different state of mind. There are also many tracks that if you leave the groove by even an inch or so, the handling is gone...which can cause wrecks...etc, etc, etc.

I see lots of bumping and running, but the only people I can accuse of hacking are the ones I know, from experience, use that ability. Hope all this makes sense. :)

Our group was considerably slower at the last BRL series we attended. I tried diligently to communicate to Racknor, Ulbrik, and the others, things like: "Next corner, go inside..." or "I'll go wide..." Obviously they are faster and I'd do the same in a race, because my philosophy is that letting the faster one by improves the standing of both drivers. The faster guy doesn't get held up and the slower guy (me) doesn't get wrecked or feel pressured. Exactly what 420 said at the top of the page, but in more words? :)

Any guy delivering another driver intentionaly should get penalized. Problem is I've yet to meet a r/c race director that is willing or has the guts to penalize a racer for a bump and pass.

Steve.lol come to trains and lanes this summer when i am running the races.i will show you a race directoer who ain't scared lol i will punish!!!lol:drunk:

Don't Threaten Me With A GOODTIME!!! haha

i want a damn Q-tip

lol what do u do if u r leading a race on a track record run and a guy wont let u by and then when u do get by him he chops you in the quarter panel and takes u out?

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lol what do u do if u r leading a race on a track record run and a guy wont let u by and then when u do get by him he chops you in the quarter panel and takes u out?

you dont get the record and then have to give the car back to its owner

lololololololol
hahahahahahahahha

Play nice you two.

you dont get the record and then have to give the car back to its owner

lololololololol
hahahahahahahahha
better yet i should have ran him into the wall and then gave both the owners there parts and let them decides whos parts were whos lmao hahahahahahahaahahahahahahaha

lol what do u do if u r leading a race on a track record run and a guy wont let u by and then when u do get by him he chops you in the quarter panel and takes u out?

IMHO, Track records should only be from Ifmar/staggered starts races (each driver with his own clock and "I let you go/you let me go" type of racing) and not from mains. Mains should be raced hard but fair and every position win rather than taken or given.

Steve.

it was staggered steevie.i was mad for a sec but got over it lol

lol what do u do if u r leading a race on a track record run and a guy wont let u by and then when u do get by him he chops you in the quarter panel and takes u out?you step on the midget and throw him off the stand?:freak:

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