View Full Version : Super Stock Super 3s


tjettim
03-29-2008, 06:28 PM
After looking these cars over I think I could realy make them go.
Lexan body mounts,custom wheels,tires and brush springs.Anyone
think there would be much interest in cars like this?

SwamperGene
03-29-2008, 07:33 PM
Already got 'em within a second of high-end SS cars out of the box....with the big hardbodies on 'em.

:thumbsup:

Lexan-bodied mag racing seems to be pretty stagnant these days, maybe the SIII could help generate new interest but the question would be cost...while I like the SIII it'll never compare to Slottech, BSRT, or Wiz products no matter how much you sink into it. Keep the rules basic and low cost, it might gather some interest. Could be a bonus in the fact that there really isn't a target market for these cars, they might end up being the next low priced show finds.

AfxToo
03-30-2008, 09:27 AM
I was originally thinking the Super III would be just the right platform to form an entry level "club stock" style racer. But that was before I saw their MSRP relative to the competition. That's still not a show stopper and the market has suppressed the street prices somewhat. What is a show stopper right now is the fact that there is no steady supply of spare service parts and very few AWS3 parts needs can be drawn from other brands to fill the gap. I cannot even consider these cars for any class of organized racing until AutoWorld starts filling the service part pipeline with spares. When that happens, only then will I start thinking about where these cars fit in.

tjettim
03-30-2008, 05:02 PM
I believe many of the parts we used on Tycos will fit the Super 3.
Brushes,springs,rewound arms,frontends,gear setups.In Mi we
only have one hard body class left,and it is on the chopping block.
Gjets and Super Stock are the predominate classes but they are
getting exspensive.A cheap super stock with slipon tires could
be exceptable.Nascar bodies are all that is available anymore in
a closed wheel body,that and nascars car of tommorrow make
HO nascar hard bodies just lumps with paint jobs from now on.
Not like in the old days when you could tell a Chevy from a Ford
on the back straight on an ho layout.Open wheel bodies break
too easily,and lexan bodies are cheap.Too bad someone could
not make a molded clip for the Gplus and Super 3 that a lexan
body could be stapled to.

AfxToo
03-30-2008, 06:50 PM
I'm as eager as anyone to see the AutoWorld Super III used for entry level racing. But right now, it just isn't backed by a sufficient manufacturer or third party parts supply network. While some parts are interchangeable from other cars basic things like pickup shoes are not. The stock axles bend rather easily and the rear wheels stick out too far for fair racing on set track. Frankly, if I'm going to consume Tyco parts I'm going to use them on my Tyco cars. A Tyco 440-X2 with a $7.00 pair of Phase II magnets is every bit as capable as the Super III and has a steady source of consumable service parts like brushes, springs, and pickup shoes available from more than one source. The Tyco 440-X2 may be on the downside of its lifecycle, but right now it is an excellent entry level platform.

When the AWS3 achieves a critical mass of service parts it too will be a nice entry level race platform.

I'm a big fan of lexan bodies too, at least on the fast cars. I'd rather bash and bang a $1.00 body that I paint myself than a nice hardbody.

tjettim
03-31-2008, 09:18 AM
After seeing the Mega G,I think I will hold off untill I
play with one of them.

jeremy1082
05-19-2008, 12:34 PM
I just picked one up and was not very impressed with it but it is true that you get what you pay for and it was only $15.99.
After 5 minutes a brush barrel screw loosened off and the motor died.
I replaced the arm brushes with a set from Tyco (longer brushes for longer life and lower electrical resistance) and it runs fine, but as it is a new release, there will be some tweaking needed until they get all of the bugs out (remember the horrible original JL cars?).
The rear gears don't mesh too smoothly but can be swapped with original AFX gears that are much smoother.
I don't see it as a serious threat to more expensive competition cars. The engineering just isn't there.