Hey moebius,any future plans for a larger SPINDRIFT ? 1/32 or 1/24 scale ?

Ditto question/request, with a nice, detailed interior and an openable hatch. :thumbsup:

Don't forget to add the crew battling a giant insect,if possible.What is the scale of the P.L. Land of the Giants crew and snake anyway.

The LotG snake is actually full scale, 1:1.
The crew SHOULD be 6" tall (1/12) then, but they're actually somewhere around 1/32.

Actually, storywise, the crew and passengers were 1:1 scale, and the giants were 12:1 scale while in true Irwin Allen fashion, the props were 12:1 scale, 8:1 scale, 32:1 scale, etc., depending on the scene being filmed. :jest:

They were also 1:18 scale and even 1:48 when they had to fit inside a camera.

No plans at this time. It may happen in the future, but too many other things going on. Keep watching!

No plans at this time. It may happen in the future, but too many other things going on. Keep watching!

Definitely something to look forward to. Personally, I'm hoping for a new Jupiter II as a companion model to the other Lost in Space models with a single piece upper hull, no cap like the polar lights model.

Definitely something to look forward to. Personally, I'm hoping for a new Jupiter II as a companion model to the other Lost in Space models with a single piece upper hull, no cap like the polar lights model.

I have encounterd feelings...:freak:

On one side, a better J-2, more accurate to the original TV show, that could imply a bigger model (1:48), compared to the actual 1:60 from PL, with both decks, could be a dream...

The two decks are a must, otherwise better call it Gemini XII and think to promote the "model from the first unaired pilot" or something like that... The two decks were one of the appeals of the PL model, even though was not fully accurate and the after-market companies had a lot of accesories to do, plus the improvements made by several great modelers (look at the CultTvMan webpage!!) (and with full respect for all the forum modelers, of course;)

On the other hand... bigger... better... more expensive... hard to create the molds... and the size...

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!:confused: :freak:

Best regards,

Alberto

"There's always possibiltes".- Spock

I have to think the Jupiter 2 would be an unlikely choice for Moebius because of how recently the PL kit was released. Granted there are problems with the PL kit but for the most part it plugged the hole that existed for modelers for years because there had never been an injection-molded kit of the craft that was remotely accurate (or domestically available). The general outline and the size of the PL kit is sufficient to please the majority of modelers out there for whom a circular kit over 12" in diameter simply takes up too much shelf space. And there is no way to put out a kit that renders the upper and lower deck inhabitable by beings of the same height without playing havoc with the ship's dimensions as clearly shown on the TV series.

I always wondered about the claim that Aurora never produced the Jupiter 2 because they thought the design too boring...but they then went ahead and produced the 1940ish flying saucer from The Invaders...

I'm really hoping for a J-2. Moebius has the license now and it'd be a shame to have the chariot and pod without the ship. I wouldn't want it as big as PL's C57D due to display room limitations but a better engineered and accurate model is really desired. The PL kit is not available except on eBay and I'd like one with all of the windows and viewports opened instead of just indentations in the hull. There aren't hardly "any" flying saucer kits available and it'd be a nice change of pace from the multitude of star trek kits.

I"m waiting for the Seaview, Spindrift as well.

"There's always possibiltes".- Spock

Aside from Spock not using a contraction when he said that, he also never would have used the wrong contraction. The quote is "There are always possibilities."
:)

YES, A larger than Polar Lights jupiter 2 in scale with the new moebius space pod and chariot with crew figures accurate upper deck and perhaps a scrimm detail for the lower viewport to simulate a lower deck BUT, a detailed upper deck without the top lid ( and seam )that comes off like polar lights. just a way to remove the upper hull half as one piece while leaving the upper deck inplace for viewing the interior.

You read what Dave Metzger said about a 1/24, 18"-wide flying sub. A 1/24 Jupiter 2 would be 30" in diameter, and y'all are clamoring for a one-piece hull... :lol:

Technical and cost considerations notwithstanding, by making the chariot and pod in 1/24 scale, Moebius has created a demand for a 1/24 Jupiter 2. Perhaps, a lower volume technique, such as pressure molding(which gives the modeler something closer to an injection molded kit,) could be used.

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1/24. Is. Too. Big. For. Anything. But. Small. Vehicles.

I have encounterd feelings...:freak:

On one side, a better J-2, more accurate to the original TV show, that could imply a bigger model (1:48), compared to the actual 1:60 from PL, with both decks, could be a dream...

The two decks are a must, otherwise better call it Gemini XII and think to promote the "model from the first unaired pilot" or something like that... The two decks were one of the appeals of the PL model, even though was not fully accurate and the after-market companies had a lot of accesories to do, plus the improvements made by several great modelers (look at the CultTvMan webpage!!) (and with full respect for all the forum modelers, of course;)

On the other hand... bigger... better... more expensive... hard to create the molds... and the size...

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!:confused: :freak:

Best regards,

Alberto

"There's always possibiltes".- Spock

Hello,

I would like to see a new, more accurate Jupiter 2, but I have also posted in the past of my personal interest in a Gemini XII model kit. I would like to see an accurate Gemini XII at 12 inches in diameter (a true companion to the PL Jupiter II), maybe along with the launch towers and the launch cradle/gantry in the same kit or as a separate kit. I like your idea of calling it the "model from the unaired pilot", but it could also be called the pilot Jupiter II, because the Gemini XII footage was used in the aired pilot. Not to sound negative, but I seriously doubt a Gemini XII model would be done, however it is a valid suggestion. You need to consider that PL had released the original Enterprise with an option to build two pilot versions and a production version! A Gemini XII model is not a way out suggestion at all.

A Gemini XII in model kit form would have wonderful potential for builders: display in a launch complex setting (if it were possible to have the other components as models), display next to the PL Jupiter 2, or display in a crash site for those who want to build one and display only the top portion of the Gemini.

A Gemini XII really is "accurate" as well: it had no lower level (perhaps an area for storage?), and therefore would be cannot as they say...

Is anyone interested in the Gemini XII and the launch facility as a model?

Regards,
Jim

...1/24. Is. Too. Big...
Not everyone wants a model that'll fit on your shelf, John. :rolleyes:

Aside from Spock not using a contraction when he said that, he also never would have used the wrong contraction. The quote is "There are always possibilities."
:)

Thanks, John!!! :thumbsup:

Best Regards,

Alberto

"There ARE always possibilities" ;).- Spock

Hello,


A Gemini XII in model kit form would have wonderful potential for builders: display in a launch complex setting (if it were possible to have the other components as models), display next to the PL Jupiter 2, or display in a crash site for those who want to build one and display only the top portion of the Gemini.

A Gemini XII really is "accurate" as well: it had no lower level (perhaps an area for storage?), and therefore would be cannot as they say...

Is anyone interested in the Gemini XII and the launch facility as a model?

Regards,
Jim


I'm on it!!!!!:thumbsup:

Best regards,

Alberto

"There are always possibilities".- Spock

Not everyone wants a model that'll fit on your shelf... :rolleyes:

Just for the record: why the PL C-57D, as huge as it is, is a hot commodity on eBay and you can buy it there for over $200 bucks?? :confused: ;)

Best regards,

Alberto

"There are always possibilities".- Spock

...consider that PL had released the original Enterprise with an option to build two pilot versions and a production version! A Gemini XII model is not a way out suggestion at all...
The Enterprise only needed small alternate parts. The Gemini XII hull varies from the Jupiter 2 hull. (Not to mention that the hulls of the various Jupiter 2 miniatures varied from each other, from the full-size mock up, and the interior/exterior set!)

So, it would be like a kit that built either a '66 Beetle, or a '72 Eldorado.

And very few people want a model that won't fit on ANY shelf.

...I would like to see an accurate Gemini XII at 12 inches in diameter (a true companion to the PL Jupiter II), maybe along with the launch towers and the launch cradle/gantry in the same kit or as a separate kit...

...Is anyone interested in the Gemini XII and the launch facility as a model?
I'd definitely like an injection-molded kit of the launch pad and gantries, to fit the Polar Lights J-2! (I am aware there is a nice garage kit of the launch pad available; don't know about the tracked gantries, though.) Such a Moebius kit should be build-to-fit to accomodate any 12" J-2 or G-12 model's lower hull geometry. And no, I wouldn't expect the launch site to fit on John's shelf... :devil:

Perhaps, if a launch site kit were to sell, there just might be sufficient demand for a Gemini XII kit.

And very few people want a model that won't fit on ANY shelf.
I've never met anyone so shelf-obsessed. ;)

The Enterprise only needed small alternate parts. The Gemini XII hull varies from the Jupiter 2 hull. (Not to mention that the hulls of the various Jupiter 2 miniatures varied from each other, from the full-size mock up, and the interior/exterior set!)

So, it would be like a kit that built either a '66 Beetle, or a '72 Eldorado.

Hello!

You make a point that is very true. There are differences between both versions, and differences even between the various Jupiter 2 versions. My suggestions related to a pilot Jupiter 2/Gemini XII are based on personal preference, but are also based on the fact that the Jupiter 2 has been done as a model or vacuform and resin model previously. A pilot Jupiter 2 (Gemini XII) and launch complex would be something completely new as model kit. Some have posted interest in the version of the ship used in flying sequences as well, and this would be the Gemini XII...I always saw it as a separate model.

Jim

...A pilot Jupiter 2 (Gemini XII) and launch complex would be something completely new as model kit...

Well, in the interest of full disclosure, there was Lunar's kit:

http://lunarmodelsonline.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=L&Product_Code=SF072&Category_Code=TRTS

But, we're talking half the size of the Polar Lights J-2, here.

I've never met anyone so shelf-obsessed. ;)
:lol:

Well, in the interest of full disclosure, there was Lunar's kit:

http://lunarmodelsonline.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=L&Product_Code=SF072&Category_Code=TRTS

But, we're talking half the size of the Polar Lights J-2, here.

Hi,
I stand corrected...I almost forgot about this LM kit. I considered buying it many years ago, but passed on it and (I think) I bought another 16 1/2 Jupiter 2 from LM instead. It does look nice.
Jim

I'd definitely like an injection-molded kit of the launch pad and gantries, to fit the Polar Lights J-2! (I am aware there is a nice garage kit of the launch pad available; don't know about the tracked gantries, though.) Such a Moebius kit should be build-to-fit to accomodate any 12" J-2 or G-12 model's lower hull geometry. And no, I wouldn't expect the launch site to fit on John's shelf... :devil:

Perhaps, if a launch site kit were to sell, there just might be sufficient demand for a Gemini XII kit.
toyroy, the launch gantry kit that Henry ( G-12 ) makes & sells is for the polar lights Jupiter 2/ Gemini 12 and is a VERY high quality & accurate launch gantry. I have mine and I am very Impressed with the quality Henry designed into it. pictures soon !

I thought this thread was about the Spindrift??


Anyhoo, 1/32 scale is about the same size as the Lunar Models Spindrift.

thank you beatle paul and amen !..........
it is very seldom that I do make any post(s) for the reason you pointed out beatle paul....as people always get off track !.........I too would like a larger and more accurate scalle jupiter 2 and appreciate everyone's enthusiasm,....but this thread is about the SPINDRIFT, so can we please stick to that topic ?


thanx
rmc

I'd just like to join the chorus of those wishing to see a 1/32 Spindrift. In the wake of the PL Jupiter 2 and the upcoming Seaview, Space Pod, and Chariot kits, it would be the only notable Irwin Allen vehicle not to have been given a solid post-Aurora, injection-molded update. Assuming sales are decent for the other models mentioned the Spindrift would certainly seem a logical subject for Moebius to tackle (especially now that Lunar Models has folded).

And followed by a similar scale styrene Proteus!

Huzz

I'd just like to join the chorus of those wishing to see a 1/32 Spindrift. In the wake of the PL Jupiter 2 and the upcoming Seaview, Space Pod, and Chariot kits, it would be the only notable Irwin Allen vehicle not to have been given a solid post-Aurora, injection-molded update. Assuming sales are decent for the other models mentioned the Spindrift would certainly seem a logical subject for Moebius to tackle (especially now that Lunar Models has folded).


Hello...

Yes, sorry to go off topic. I would really like to see a new Spindrift model...1/32nd scale would be just fine, but even a smaller one would be OK, so long as it was accurate.

Jim

Off topic? .....could be much worse....it could have gone to poodle breeding or Elvis sightings? :p

1/32 scale is PERFECT for the Spindrift!

Here is my Lunar Spindrift ( for those who have not seen it before ) I custom scratched the interior. It's about 16" in length and 1/35 I believe.

http://www.uncleodiescollectibles.com/html_lib/giants-dioramas/00027.html

Such a truely awesome build; I'm as impressed with your work on that craft today as I was when I penned that e-mail to you and alerted Robert Vanderpool to your work.
If and when Frank comes out with a Spindrift, I hope that he'll honor you by allowing you to build the first one! :thumbsup:

THANK YOU! :) and yes THAT WOULD BE A DELIGHT and a HONOR!

I had help from a tech who worked on the sound stage during the filming of the show and from the person who drew up the plans for Lunars interior.

Yes like the Flying sub...the Spindrift in styrene at 1/32 scale and more accurate would be a major breakthrough in scale models.

If Chitty, Moon bus, Proteus and finally the BIG ONE the Nautilus get released in Styrene I believe that there will be plenty of us baby boomer modelers that will rest in peace.

Which leads to a interesting question....will it be like ancient Egypt for some of us? buried with jars filled with model piant, number eleven blades, glue and sanding sticks?.....thats ok but PLEASE don't pull what little brains I have left out with a wire! :drunk:

AMEN TROY !!! great work as usual, makes me want to go find one to put in line for a build.

Not ancient Egypt, but ancient Troy!

:D

Great Spindrift, Troy! :thumbsup:

As for scale, Brent Gair used three different drawings, which showed the full-scale Spindrift length ranging between 48'-53'. For an assumed 50' length:

1/48 would be 12.5";
1/32 would be 18.75";
1/24 would be 25";
1/18 would be 33.33".

Hmmm. I'd have to vote for the 1/48 then. 1/32 might be pushing the limits of affordable producibility and sales potential.

If and when Frank decides to move on a 1/32 Spindrift (or larger), he will have access to original studio prints, a cast of the original filming model, and the original molds. Yes these exist, and are available to him for reference. So if it ever happens, it will be an incredibly faithful and accurate kit.

There are a number of private collectors out there who have been, and are going to continue assisting Moebius with their line of kits. Fortunately (for all of us), many of them do work or have connections to the film industry, plus they're fans too.

Here's Hoping!

Thanks for the kind words gents! :)

1/48? is way too small! thats close to the Aurora scale...NO WAY!!

Hmmm. I'd have to vote for the 1/48 then. 1/32 might be pushing the limits of affordable producibility and sales potential.
Didn't Chocks make a chewable Spindrift vitamin in 1/48 scale?

A 12.5" chewable vitamin?! :freak:

I dunno, Fluke, I measure the Aurora on at 9.5" over the tailfin. 1/48 would sill be 3" longer. But 1/32 isn't too-too big.

Didn't Chocks make a chewable Spindrift vitamin in 1/48 scale?


Naw, that's was a 20th Century Fox Proteus, there was only one made, and it was devoured by a bird. :cry:

Thanks John, I must admit 12.5 is better.

I would definitely vote for 1/32, even if it means getting a bigger shelf!

Wayne

OK, so think about this...

30 inches.....mmmmmm!

OK, all the parts are 1/3 segments. That way the lower level landing gear and symetric 1/3 lower level, each with a gear well and landing gear leg, etc. The upper should still be the option of the open top, but make sure it fits w/out seam. The upper hull didn't change during the show, but year 2 and 3's model had the fatter bottom for the Pod. The model should have BOTH lower hulls. I think the gear will work in either, and since only one set of gear seems to have survived, I'll assume it worked in both. It should be the SPFX or "Hero" interior, just the 4 figures and the scrimm. The landing gear retraction sequence requires the footpad doors to open FIRST, and close LAST. I wonder how you can do something like that with a plastic model though. Anyway, I think an interior as an aftermarket item in 2 styles. 1 with 1 chair at the console and no lower level, and a full level version with 2 chairs and lower level window frame kit. WORKING gear is pretty much NOT gonna happen with JUST a plastic kit. Remember that the full scale jupiter 2 with gear and the SPFX model have different gear well details. Full scale has the circles, but the 4 foot model has non identical sides! The Fusion core seemed to get smaller as the ship became pregnant with the Pod. Gotta have the FINS too!!


Ok.....

I thought we were talking about the Spindrift here :lol:

btw, a 30" J2 with only the scrimm behind the windshield? What the heck? With all that space to make a full, accurate interior? Sorry, but that's kinda nuts.